CoastalWx Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yeah but at least summer in Boston is amazing...lots of highs in the 70s and 80s and not nearly as much as 90s with humidity stink as to the southwest. Oh summer is different..absolutely. But I hate Spring. Just too dank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 No offense to my DC friends, but that place blows hard. No snow and 6 months of awful heat. Keep that sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Lol....I meant to write ORD. I'd prefer ORH! Oh ok..makes sense..I was kind ofwondering why you would be in ORH for 5 days, lol...considering you live 40 minutes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 No offense to my DC friends, but that place blows hard. No snow and 6 months of awful heat. Keep that sh*t. I would move to DC but certainly not for the weather. It's one of the few places I would consider moving to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I would move to DC but certainly not for the weather. It's one of the few places I would consider moving to. DC is a great city. I love it every time I am there. Their weather is awful though...terrible winters/summers. They do have awesome springs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I would move to DC but certainly not for the weather. It's one of the few places I would consider moving to. It's a ton of fun...I love going there and have friends there...I honestly don't know if I can deal with that climate. I just feel land locked. I know this sounds dumb...but I love just going to a beachside bar in the summer..sucking down clam strips with a gin and tonic. I love having the option so close...but just having a beach and a cool seabreeze makes it that much more comfortable. Or, the cold front that bring temps back to the lower 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 It's a ton of fun...I love going there and have friends there...I honestly don't know if I can deal with that climate. I just feel land locked. I know this sounds dumb...but I love just going to a beachside bar in the summer..sucking down clam strips with a gin and tonic. I love having the option so close...but just having a beach and a cool seabreeze makes it that much more comfortable. Or, the cold front that bring temps back to the lower 80s. Shucking claims too? Sunsational Beaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Shucking claims too? Sunsational Beaches? BSE forever and ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Shaw Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 West Virginia High Country snow drift hunt - April 16-18 2013 I was up in the WV mtns from Tue Apr 16 through Thu Apr 18 with 4 other snow lovers, we were searching out for remaining snow drifts in the right spots. We found our first snow at about 3000 feet near Mt Storm WV on a few east facing slopes on Tue on the way out. The main road through Dolly Sods was still closed, allegedly due to snow according to what we were told by the Forest Service. We were able to cut across the Sods on the way over to route 28 and Seneca Rocks, and we did find some good drifts up around 4000 feet in a few protected spots in the spruce glades there. We found pretty good snow at the top of Spruce Knob on Wednesday at 4863', in and among the obs tower and areas around the picnic groves and parking lot right near the summit. We found impressive drifts in the Sinks of Gandy just to the west of Spruce Knob up around 3500 feet on east facing slopes mostly. We went up High Mtn Road off of Route 33 west of Seneca Rocks, topping off at a bit over 4000 feet, and found a few snow drifts there. Late Wednesday we made it down south to Snowshoe, and there was the most snow we saw on the trip, although that must be qualified big-time as a good deal of that snow was left over man-made snow from the just closed ski season (I believe they had the last day of skiing there on April 7). It was piled as high as 10-12 feet in some places, and at the top of the Ballhooter Lift at about 4820' it looked like a small glacier of hard packed snow, extending down the slopes on that side and also on the west side down Cupp Run and the Western Territory, down to the bottom of Cupp at about 3300 feet. Still saw a good amount of snow in the spruce groves there at the summit, so there definitely was some natural snow remaining there also. I hope to post some pictures from my friend Marty's collection, he is sending me a CD of over 100 pics. Will post most if not all of them on a website that everyone can access, and a few here on this bb. No internet access or cell phone service to speak of up in most of the areas we were traveling through - we stayed at the Northpoint condos in Canaan Valley at about 3500 feet on Tue and Wed night. Tue night we had a brief thundershower in the late evening, otherwise we had sunny to partly cloudy conditions and warm, with temps in the 60s above 4000 feet and in the 70s below 3000 feet (Seneca Rocks for example) Lows were mostly in the 50s. Any questions/comments feel free to post. Some of the drifts we saw should make it to early May. One other interesting drift was in the Black Bear Woods community in Canaan Valley- at a east facing slope by this tennis court there was an old drift that was still going strong, probably about 4 feet deep in places. The biggest ones we saw (natural) were probably up to 8 feet in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Why the 1776 type writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Kevin Shaw and the snow drift hunt. Lolz and awesomeness at the same time. Font for Blizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Are we writing under candlelight, grey wigs, and ink tip pens with feathers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Are we writing under candlelight, grey wigs, and ink tip pens with feathers? Can I borrow your grey wig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Any snow piles left? I saw the last bit of snow in my hometown melt away the middle of last week in a parking lot. Someone in New Haven said they spotted a melting pile still hanging on this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Any snow piles left? I saw the last bit of snow in my hometown melt away the middle of last week in a parking lot. Someone in New Haven said they spotted a melting pile still hanging on this morning... I'd have to go back but I saw a pile last Friday (the 3rd). I should look because it's probably gone now but it might have been there yesterday morning based on our morning temps over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'd have to go back but I saw a pile last Friday (the 3rd). I should look because it's probably gone now but it might have been there yesterday morning based on our morning temps over the weekend. I also saw a rotting pile last Friday in New Haven. It was covered in dirt, so there was some isolation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 33" at the Mansfield COOP yesterday at 3700ft stake. Still snow cover in the woods above 3000ft, lol. Hard to really call it snow though, icepack with 6 inch deep sun cups on it...probably pretty filthy looking as its usually covered in pine needles and an entire winter's worth of high wind debris. You don't notice it in the winter, but the amount of stuff that gets shredded off the trees from various 70-110mph wind storms then buried by following snows is pretty crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 33" at the Mansfield COOP yesterday at 3700ft stake. Still snow cover in the woods above 3000ft, lol. Hard to really call it snow though, icepack with 6 inch deep sun cups on it...probably pretty filthy looking as its usually covered in pine needles and an entire winter's worth of high wind debris. You don't notice it in the winter, but the amount of stuff that gets shredded off the trees from various 70-110mph wind storms then buried by following snows is pretty crazy. powder, historically when is the last accumulating snow @3700' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 powder, historically when is the last accumulating snow @3700' I don't have the actual climate date right now, but its usually around mid-May...at least the last trace at the COOP. However the COOP only measures new snow at 4-5pm each day, so often this time of year there can be even several inches that falls the prior night which melts off throughout the day (strong May sun) and only goes in the books as a trace. Similar to like last October where there was a day I took pictures measuring 4" at 8am, but by 4pm it had pretty much all melted so the COOP recorded like a half inch. So the Trace amounts this time of year would usually be measurable in most cases. Anyway, it is usually mid-May and coincides with the average dates of last frost/freeze...usually to get the last freezing temperatures in the valleys requires that last sub-freezing H85 airmass which brings snow-supporting temps to the summits. And you know what happens when you advect that airmass in from the NW...there's almost always some orographic response prior to the ridge building in with high pressure. So often that last summit snow occurrs in tandem with the last valley freeze. Same thing in the fall...as the first whitening occurs with the first freeze in the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Dirt-covered piles in the Augusta snow dump are still over 20 feet deep, taller than last year at this time but tiny compared to some other years - especially 2008 when the piles were still 20'+ in mid July and finally finished melting on 8/25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I don't have the actual climate date right now, but its usually around mid-May...at least the last trace at the COOP. However the COOP only measures new snow at 4-5pm each day, so often this time of year there can be even several inches that falls the prior night which melts off throughout the day (strong May sun) and only goes in the books as a trace. Similar to like last October where there was a day I took pictures measuring 4" at 8am, but by 4pm it had pretty much all melted so the COOP recorded like a half inch. So the Trace amounts this time of year would usually be measurable in most cases. That's pretty poor of the coop. A good observer should record what fell through the previous 24hrs. Maybe they are not always there or can get there when it does snow. It's things like this that made me continue to keep my weather record even though I left the industry in mid-90s. It's nice to have your own data to see what happened in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Dirt-covered piles in the Augusta snow dump are still over 20 feet deep, taller than last year at this time but tiny compared to some other years - especially 2008 when the piles were still 20'+ in mid July and finally finished melting on 8/25. That's pretty good. I didn't know that Augusta did that - I'll have to look for that when I travel up there next month. Where is that located? I love seeing stuff like that. Our town has a place like that and there's times I wish they would stock pile more snow there just so it would last longer. I know in 2010 it made it to June 1. Quebec City does that and it stays around all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 That's pretty poor of the coop. A good observer should record what fell through the previous 24hrs. Maybe they are not always there or can get there when it does snow. It's things like this that made me continue to keep my weather record even though I left the industry in mid-90s. It's nice to have your own data to see what happened in the past. The issue with the Mansfield COOP is that they are not weather observers. The are engineers for WCAX who stay on the summit in 24 hour shifts to make sure the radio towers function properly. Their shift change is around 4pm, when one drives up the Toll Road and the other drives down. The measuring stake is just off the road at 3700ft and they stop to look at it. The new guy then looks at precipitation can for the liquid amount, and the snowfall is usually drastically underreported as it is measured in an elevated 8-inch diameter can on windswept rocksup at 4000ft. During the winter, the Toll Road they snowmobile up is a beginner ski run at Stowe so the reason for the 4-5pm measurement is that the ski area is open till 4pm, thus they wait for ski patrol clearence to head up from the parking lot at 4pm. My issue is the collection meathod of snowfall, and also that the snow depth and snowfall are not taken in the same location. Snow depth is measured at a lower elevation below treeline where winds are calmer and snow falls down not sideways. I wish they would just try a snowboard set up next to the stake to at least compare, but it is not uncommon for snow depth to increase more than the reported snowfall because the can at the summit is under-catching. During the winter my snowboard at 3,000ft in a shelter location receives around 30% more snowfall than the COOP, but often mimics the change in depth of the COOP if that makes sense. Also, having the freedom to measure more often or at least when the snow stops (and not 12 hours later) leads to higher totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 The issue with the Mansfield COOP is that they are not weather observers. Had the same issue with the Ft.Kent COOP, which has been measured by the town water company employees, and which has been consistently low - by about 20-25" from my totals when I lived in town at similar elevation (and about 45" lower than my back settlement snowfall at 450' higher.) FK also comes in about 20" below CAR, quite consistently when I lived there (1976-85) and since then. Anyone traveling between the two towns knows that's absurd - in 9-of-10 winters the snowpack is significantly higher and snowfall greater in FK. The FK COOP measures once, at 7 AM, and would occasionally miss late-morning shoulder season snow which had melted during the previous afternoon, but more serious (to me) was the apparent practice of recording new snow by how much the snowpack had increased since the previous day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 That's pretty good. I didn't know that Augusta did that - I'll have to look for that when I travel up there next month. Where is that located? I love seeing stuff like that. Our town has a place like that and there's times I wish they would stock pile more snow there just so it would last longer. I know in 2010 it made it to June 1. Quebec City does that and it stays around all year. Forgot to respond to this in my earlier post. The snow dump is beneath the east end of the most downstream of Augusta's 3 bridges over the Kennebec. However, to approach it one should cross at the middle bridge, the lowest one, now called Cushnoc. Head up Bridge Street past the entrance to Old Ft. Western (that's an interesting place, too) and take the next right, Arsenal St. First right off Arsenal (which also accesses the city's Kennebec River boatlaunch) and follow your eyes to the ugly mess. It was most interesting in 2008 during some July triple-H wx, when it would be surrounded by ground fog until the winds picked up. Looked like a horror movie set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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