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3/7-3/8 lgt snow/rain obs


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Now that precip has stopped, temps rising rather quickly, up 3 degrees in the last 2 hours, not what you typically expect this time of day.  I don't believe we ever got over an inch as precip rates just weren't hard enough here.  Most of it will be gone by dark...

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this is from tim (allsnow) 7 in edison 

 

Wow. That's impressive. I was surprised at the 7" report, considering just to the west in Somerset I had about half that this morning (3.4" measured at 8 AM). Tim, when was that pic taken? 

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Wow. That's impressive. I was surprised at the 7" report, considering just to the west in Somerset I had about half that this morning (3.4" measured at 8 AM). Tim, when was that pic taken?

Around 1pm I would say. We got into some real good banding. Around noon it started to accumulate on the roads again. I was in a very good spot for this storm. I could only imagine if it was late January. Thanks again for taking our reports.

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Around 1pm I would say. We got into some real good banding. Around noon it started to accumulate on the roads again. I was in a very good spot for this storm. I could only imagine if it was late January. Thanks again for taking our reports.

 

Yeah, that heavy band was just to our east. Great to see that you were able to cash in under it even during the middle of the day. Looking out the window right now in Piscataway, looks like there's barely an inch left on the ground, and bare in some areas too. I have no idea how I'm going to come up with a storm total, considering my last measurement was 8 AM and won't be home for another hour or two. By that time, whatever fell today will be long gone! 3.4" storm total it may remain....

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Yeah, that heavy band was just to our east. Great to see that you were able to cash in under it even during the middle of the day. Looking out the window right now in Piscataway, looks like there's barely an inch left on the ground, and bare in some areas too. I have no idea how I'm going to come up with a storm total, considering my last measurement was 8 AM and won't be home for another hour or two. By that time, whatever fell today will be long gone! 3.4" storm total it may remain....

Yeah this type of storm it's real hard to measure. We have compacted to 3-4 here. It's funny how I can see the difference in accumulation traveling w-e. In these late winter storms it's usually the other way around. This is my 3rd warning snowfall of the winter, really can't complain about it at all now lol.

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A number I was waiting for... liquid equivalent since midnight back home was 0.31".  Add in 0.03" from before midnight and you get 0.34".  So the globals were too dry... but there were NAM runs which had over 0.75" so I certainly don't call this an outright NAM victory.  I wasn't paying enough attention further north and east to declare a winner.

 

I still think the NAM sucks ;)

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Public Information Statement from Mount Holly regarding the snowfall:

 

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NOUS41 KPHI 082105
PNSPHI
DEZ001>004-MDZ008-012-015-019-020-NJZ001-007>010-012>027-PAZ054-055-
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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
405 PM EST FRI MAR 08 2013

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE STORM THAT
HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY
DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND SOCIAL
MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME
PAGE AT ERH.NOAA.GOV/PHI

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

DELAWARE

...NEW CASTLE COUNTY...
   WILMINGTON AIRPORT       T   100 PM  3/08  ASOS
   WILMINGTON               T   100 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

NEW JERSEY

...ATLANTIC COUNTY...
   ESTELL MANOR           1.4   811 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER
   PLEASANTVILLE          0.9   100 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   ATLANTIC CITY AIRPOR   0.9   100 PM  3/08  ASOS

...BURLINGTON COUNTY...
   MOUNT LAUREL           3.9  1130 AM  3/08  NWS EMPLOYEE
   FLORENCE               3.8   930 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BORDENTOWN             3.6   215 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MOUNT HOLLY WFO        3.3   100 PM  3/08  NWS OFFICE
   1 SE EASTAMPTON TWP    3.0  1200 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   TABERNACLE             2.6  1155 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...CAMDEN COUNTY...
   SOMERDALE              1.7   100 PM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER

...CAPE MAY COUNTY...
   WILDWOOD CREST         0.1   920 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   GREEN CREEK              T   720 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...GLOUCESTER COUNTY...
   WASHINGTON TWP         1.6  1011 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   NATIONAL PARK          0.2   100 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...HUNTERDON COUNTY...
   WERTSVILLE             3.1   730 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER
   WHITEHOUSE STATION     3.0   600 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   READINGTON TWP         2.6  1015 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   LAMBERTVILLE           2.0   741 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...MERCER COUNTY...
   HOPEWELL TWP           6.0   152 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   HOPEWELL               4.1   945 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   EWING TWP              3.5  1200 PM  3/08  COCORAHS
   LAWRENCEVILLE          3.1   810 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   HAMILTON TWP           3.0   920 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   PRINCETON JUNCTION     2.0   645 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...MIDDLESEX COUNTY...
   EAST BRUNSWICK         4.6   830 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   NEW BRUNSWICK          4.1   800 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER
   SOUTH PLAINFIELD       3.0   930 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   PLAINSBORO             3.0   700 AM  3/08  NWS EMPLOYEE

...MONMOUTH COUNTY...
   COLTS NECK             4.5   923 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   FREEHOLD               4.5   750 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MANALAPAN              4.0   225 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MARLBORO               3.8   625 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   NEPTUNE TWP            2.8  1235 PM  3/08  PUBLIC
   NEPTUNE CITY           2.0   740 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   MANASQUAN              1.8   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER

...MORRIS COUNTY...
   GREEN POND            10.0   225 PM  3/08  1089 FT ELEVATION
   LAKE HOPATCONG         8.0   600 AM  3/08  1150 FT ELEVATION
   BOONTON                7.2   837 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   MARCELLA               7.0   247 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CHESTER                6.5  1000 AM  3/08  940 FT ELEVATION
   LONG VALLEY            6.5   837 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   MILTON                 6.0   805 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BUTLER                 5.5  1254 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   ROCKAWAY               5.0   705 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   MORRIS PLAINS          5.0  1145 AM  3/08  COCORAHS
   RANDOLPH TWP           5.0   705 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   CHATHAM                5.0   630 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...OCEAN COUNTY...
   BRICK TWP              2.7   400 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   LANOKA HARBOR          1.2  1015 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
   ZION                   5.5   919 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   BOUND BROOK            4.5   300 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   SOMERVILLE             4.3   815 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   HILLSBOROUGH           4.0   930 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   WARREN TWP             4.0   921 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   BRIDGEWATER TWP        4.0   900 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   ROCKY HILL             3.0   838 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   BELLE MEAD             2.1   715 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...SUSSEX COUNTY...
   HIGHLAND LAKES        11.8   344 PM  3/08  1415 FT ELEVATION
   WANTAGE               10.5   100 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 N PROSPECT POINT     8.3  1155 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   FRANKLIN               7.9   925 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   VERNON                 7.5   600 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   4 SW WANTAGE           4.1   830 AM  3/08  740 FT ELEVATION
   LAFAYETTE              4.0   911 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   SUSSEX                 3.7   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER
   NEWTON                 3.5   740 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...WARREN COUNTY...
   ALLAMUCHY              5.0  1239 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   HACKETTSTOWN           4.5   600 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BROADWAY               3.8   840 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BLAIRSTOWN             3.5  1000 AM  3/08  500 FT ELEVATION
   STEWARTSVILLE          3.2  1045 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

PENNSYLVANIA

...BERKS COUNTY...
   HUFFS CHURCH           0.5  1022 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...BUCKS COUNTY...
   MORRISVILLE            3.8   346 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BENSALEM               3.5  1020 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BUCKINGHAM             3.0   920 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   FURLONG                3.0  1119 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   LOWER MAKEFIELD TWP    2.8   922 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   SPRINGTOWN             1.5   700 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER
   WEST ROCKHILL TWP      0.5   615 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...DELAWARE COUNTY...
   WAYNE                  1.1  1138 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...LEHIGH COUNTY...
   ALLENTOWN              0.6   600 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   SCHNECKSVILLE          0.6   730 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   ALLENTOWN AIRPORT        T   100 PM  3/08  ASOS

...MONROE COUNTY...
   TOBYHANNA              3.5   930 AM  3/08  2070 FT ELEVATION

...MONTGOMERY COUNTY...
   HORSHAM                2.8  1235 PM  3/08  PUBLIC
   GILBERTSVILLE          0.1  1141 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER

...NORTHAMPTON COUNTY...
   HELLERTOWN             3.0   920 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...PHILADELPHIA COUNTY...
   SOMERTON               2.8   100 PM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   NE PHILADELPHIA        1.3   845 AM  3/08  TRAINED SPOTTER
   FOX CHASE              0.5   645 AM  3/08  PUBLIC
   PHILADELPHIA INTL AI   0.2   100 PM  3/08  ASOS
   PHILADELPHIA CENTER    0.1   900 AM  3/08  CO-OP OBSERVER
 

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Wife just called to say we got an additional 1.5" since I left for work, bringing us up to 6.5" in Metuchen. Holy ****e!  Talk about way overperforming - this is the kind of forecast bust I love, lol.  And it ended up being more widespread than I thought, with areas to the W and S of us doing at least pretty well (lots of reports of 3-5" in Warren/Somerset/Monmouth etc.). 

 

Been busy all day at work, but my wife sent me an email around 1 pm, saying we had 2.5" of new snow since 7 am (I cleared off our deck table for her), which, combined with the 5.0" I measured at 7 am, leads to 7.5" overall.  Snow still fell after that, but didn't add appreciable accumulation as snowfall rate didn't really exceed the melting rate in the afernoon.  I think that's a fair total, as it's 6 hours after my initial measurement.  Sure, total depth was about 6.5-7.0", due to compaction, but I think 7.5" is kosher.  I do, however, think the NWS/NOAA should try to come up with one single way to measure snow, so we don't get into these arguments, although that's a hard thing to do and enforce.  Regardless, what an awesome "make-up" storm after the debacle on Wednesday.  Reports from Middlesex County need to be updated, as they were all from this morning and more fell in most spots (3-5" on the NWS page). 

 

Brings the season total to 32.0".  Not a bad winter, after all! 

 

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Been busy all day at work, but my wife sent me an email around 1 pm, saying we had 2.5" of new snow since 7 am (I cleared off our deck table for her), which, combined with the 5.0" I measured at 7 am, leads to 7.5" overall.  Snow still fell after that, but didn't add appreciable accumulation as snowfall rate didn't really exceed the melting rate in the afernoon.  I think that's a fair total, as it's 6 hours after my initial measurement.  Sure, total depth was about 6.5-7.0", due to compaction, but I think 7.5" is kosher.  I do, however, think the NWS/NOAA should try to come up with one single way to measure snow, so we don't get into these arguments, although that's a hard thing to do and enforce. 

 

What do you mean?  There is one way.

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Yeah that was very impressive also. I'm around 7 now. Approaching what I got in the February storm. This last band is adding to the total. What a great bust

 

 

Wow. That's impressive. I was surprised at the 7" report, considering just to the west in Somerset I had about half that this morning (3.4" measured at 8 AM). Tim, when was that pic taken? 

 

 

Yeah that was very impressive also. I'm around 7 now. Approaching what I got in the February storm. This last band is adding to the total. What a great bust

Been busy all day, but just posted that we got 7.5" in Metuchen, so AllSnow's 7" sounds reasonable, as he's only a mile or so from my house.  We got 5" as of 7 am and my wife measured 2.5" more around 1 pm, which is when the melting rate started equalling the snowfall rate.  32" for the season.

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Ray, ratios were rather high. I had .47 melted snow for 6.5". I also had .13 of rain and none accumulated snow totaling .60 on the nose. I'd say that's that's somewhere between the NAM and the EURO. As far as who won? I'll wait for you to make that call.

 

Makes sense.  Total liquid my parents had today was 0.31" for 3.5" of snow, which includes what fell as non-accumulating snow and rain, so I'm gonna guestimate that their ratios were on par with your 14:1.

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Makes sense.  Total liquid my parents had today was 0.31" for 3.5" of snow, which includes what fell as non-accumulating snow and rain, so I'm gonna guestimate that their ratios were on par with your 14:1.

Possibly the warmest high ratio snow I've seen. Big beefy flakes, but dry instead of wet.

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