CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Menino is getting shat on. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we could get near pr past 18". I started ticking 10-12 in my head yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Menino is getting shat on. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we could get near pr past 18". I started ticking 10-12 in my head yesterday. Always better to have a storm blow the doors off your wildest dreams than have it disappoint. Kids stuck on busses all night again in Boston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Always better to have a storm blow the doors off your wildest dreams than have it disappoint. Kids stuck on busses all night again in Boston? Streets unplowed, sidewalsk buried...poor kids. And, the teaches who have to get there. He blamed it on being unprepared...but look out the window at 4am dummy...that's all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Streets unplowed, sidewalsk buried...poor kids. And, the teaches who have to get there. He blamed it on being unprepared...but look out the window at 4am dummy...that's all you need. Yeah it's not going to be pretty. But yeah you don't need the tv man to tell you the streets are buried and it's still coming down hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Menino is getting shat on. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we could get near pr past 18". I started ticking 10-12 in my head yesterday. This one for you guys might be like our Boxing Day 2010 storm in terms of cripple-age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 This is going to be an interesting post-mortem on the storm. Even the most bullish/optimistic thinking was way too low...I figured there might be some isolated 15-18" jackpots...but thats not even close...going to be 2 foot jackpots with widespread 18" amounts. The whole phase at 500mb was definitely a very key aspect I think. I remember posting on here and even telling Scott last night how the whole thing should come together very nicely once the flow aligns out of the east after the phase. But this is still heavier than anyone could have envisioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 It's looking like your "top 3 storm for Boston" call might not be far off. What a ridiculous event up your way. We have to feel bad though for the guys south of us who were supposed to get slammed and got cold rain instead. When I made that comment I meant more the city. It would surprise me a little if Boston broke 20+ at logan but fully expect Jerry/Scott etc will do it or come close. When I made that comment for some reason I had it in my head 18-20 was a top 3-5 at logan...but that's no longer the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 When I made that comment I meant more the city. It would surprise me a little if Boston broke 20+ at logan but fully expect Jerry/Scott etc will do it or come close. When I made that comment for some reason I had it in my head 18-20 was a top 3-5 at logan...but that's no longer the case. We should call this storm "Rollo's Revenge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 This is going to be an interesting post-mortem on the storm. Even the most bullish/optimistic thinking was way too low...I figured there might be some isolated 15-18" jackpots...but thats not even close...going to be 2 foot jackpots with widespread 18" amounts. The whole phase at 500mb was definitely a very key aspect I think. I remember posting on here and even telling Scott last night how the whole thing should come together very nicely once the flow aligns out of the east after the phase. But this is still heavier than anyone could have envisioned. When I made the historic comment I was thinking 10-20" This is starting to surprise me in the duration and the intensity. The hangup here today seems to be this vortmax spinning west. Check it out, ripping inbound. That'll be the end as it ducks down, but models missed it. It's helped to keep everything from pivoting and kept the hose upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 NCEP's new model diagnostic is out. Instead of detailing how badly the GFS handled this storm they just put up a graphic, I think it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Why on god's good earth did the NWS drop the WSW, we still have heavy snow and impassible roads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 lol rollo as far as the wsw expiring, not sure. maybe poor foresight on their part. short term desk is likely swamped right now. maybe they re-up them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RI Rob Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 aaaaand I still have to work retail at 5;30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildy Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 So I am overwhelmingly a lurker, but I just wanted to pop in and say how much I enjoyed the discussion leading up to this storm, particularly that of Rollo and ORHWxman. Rollo in particular was clearly defending a minority position, but did so very convincingly, backing it up with good reasoning--or so it appeared to my very uneducated eyes. I just liked it because he wasn't overly swayed by each model run, and was able to provide a compelling discussion. I am a complete amateur so I could well be blowing smoke, but it was fascinating to read the back and forth here and made me look like a genius to my family when I warned them that the TV mets were way under-forecasting this. So thank you! Edit: WSW extended to 7 pm around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Looks like I'll be doing a case study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 nice scooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Looks like I'll be doing a case study. Part of it should be a Dr. Phil on this forum too...psychology of weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Pretty good pattern on EURO, rockin' March throughout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Part of it should be a Dr. Phil on this forum too...psychology of weather. LOL, as Will said and I agreed...int SE MA and ORH always looked good for different reasons. By 12z yesterday, I knew it was gametime and even the day before..confidence increased on good snow for BOS, but flags were there. For the coty proper I was too bearish, but at the same time..most media outlets had nothing. That was...as the Scottish say..."CRRRAAAAP". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah by ~72h out or so, I was feeling really good about this. I made a post in the Staff Forum to Randy on the 5th about "stealing" their snowstorm. It was at 1:15 on Tues. The writing was on the wall than, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah by ~72h out or so, I was feeling really good about this. I made a post in the Staff Forum to Randy on the 5th about "stealing" their snowstorm. It was at 1:15 on Tues. The writing was on the wall than, imo. Yep, you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Looks like I'll be doing a case study. Please do. One of the most incredible setups I've seen. And the longest I've ever seen subsidence sit over one area for over 24 hours. Just wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yep, you too. And I'll be the 1st to admit I was poo-pooing it at 1st. That block look like it meant business but the ULL slowed and allowed the orientation of the block to work as well as allowing the trailing s/w to come out of the g/l and tug the whole system n. Just a perfect scenario for a major winter storm outside of a traditional setup. The Disco from Drag out of Mt Holly was another key marker in this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 And I'll be the 1st to admit I was poo-pooing it at 1st. That block look like it meant business but the ULL slowed and allowed the orientation of the block to work as well as allowing the trailing s/w to come out of the g/l and tug the whole system n. Just a perfect scenario for a major winter storm outside of a traditional setup. The Disco from Drag out of Mt Holly was another key marker in this system. Oh I missed it..anybody save it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Oh I missed it..anybody save it? It's posted in one of the threads. It was on Wednesday, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 It's posted in one of the threads. It was on Wednesday, I believe. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39555-first-week-of-march-noreaster/?p=2178991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Great storm for you as our winter down here (a failed one even by our standards) gives way to spring. I would love to know why there was such a persistent screw zone in RI. I haven't had to time to really look at much. All I can think of off the top of my head is some sort of subsidence just outside the main "firehose" band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Snow has stopped, temp 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Best prediction of the entire storm was an angry Mayor Menino. He's saying they couldn't call it off because the predictions were so bad they hadn't called off and because of working families they don't like to call off at 5am. I actually respect that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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