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March 6-8 2013 Significant Coastal Storm Observations


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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

SPOTTER REPORTS

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

425 PM EST FRI MAR 08 2013

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE RECENT

STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED

TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS

AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR

HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/NYC

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS

                     SNOWFALL           OF

                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

CONNECTICUT

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...

   NEWTOWN               13.1   245 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   SHELTON               13.0   300 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   NEW CANAAN            12.8  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   NEW FAIRFIELD         12.0   230 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   DANBURY               11.6   200 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   STAMFORD              10.0   130 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   DARIEN                 6.5  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

...MIDDLESEX COUNTY...

   MIDDLETOWN            14.0   100 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   OLD SAYBROOK           7.3  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   HADDAM                 7.0  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

...NEW HAVEN COUNTY...

   WOLCOTT               14.5   220 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   PROSPECT              14.0   100 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   WOODBRIDGE            13.5  1240 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   BETHANY               12.0  1234 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   NAUGATUCK             10.7  1227 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   SOUTHBURY             10.5   200 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   OXFORD                10.5  1240 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   CHESHIRE              10.0   100 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   MERIDEN                9.5  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   BEACON FALLS           8.3  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   HAMDEN                 8.3  1200 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   NEW HAVEN              7.0  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   WATERBURY              7.0  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   MILFORD                6.5  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   NORTH HAVEN            6.0   254 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

...NEW LONDON COUNTY...

   COLCHESTER            15.0  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   GILMAN                13.0   230 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   NORWICH                7.3  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

   WATERFORD              7.0   223 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   GALES FERRY            6.5   220 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   STONINGTON             4.3   200 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   GROTON                 3.5  1200 PM  3/08  CT DOT

NEW JERSEY

...BERGEN COUNTY...

   OAKLAND                8.8   115 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   PARAMUS                8.0   130 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   MAHWAH                 7.8  1230 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   EAST RUTHERFORD        7.5   130 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   NORTH ARLINGTON        7.5   115 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   RIDGEWOOD              7.3   100 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   ALLENDALE              7.1   115 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   GLEN ROCK              6.3  1210 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   RAMSEY                 4.8   100 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

...ESSEX COUNTY...

   CEDAR GROVE            7.5   215 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   NEWARK                 6.7   400 PM  3/08  FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER

   BELLEVILLE             6.7   115 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   MILLBURN               6.1   130 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   WEST ORANGE            6.0  1200 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   NORTH CALDWELL         5.0   740 AM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

...HUDSON COUNTY...

   HARRISON               7.8   300 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   JERSEY CITY            5.3   130 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   SECAUCUS               4.8   130 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

...PASSAIC COUNTY...

   WEST PATERSON          9.5   200 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   WAYNE                  9.0   100 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   WEST MILFORD           8.5   215 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   CLIFTON                8.0   300 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

...UNION COUNTY...

   ELIZABETH              7.1   300 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   CLARK                  2.0   130 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER. This one seems awfully suspect

NEW YORK

...BRONX COUNTY...

   BEDFORD PARK           7.0  1130 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

   1 NE RIVERDALE         5.0  1200 PM  3/08  COCORAHS

   BRONX                  3.5   735 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

...KINGS COUNTY...

   SHEEPSHEAD BAY         4.0  1200 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

   MARINE PARK            3.5  1100 AM  3/08  PUBLIC

   MIDWOOD                3.4   153 PM  3/08  SKYWARN SPOTTER

...NASSAU COUNTY...

   WOODMERE               7.2   300 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

   MINEOLA                7.1  1230 PM  3/08  PUBLIC

 

yeah, im gonna go ahead and call bullsh-t on the woodmere total..by about 4 or so inches

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that can't be right...We all know it snowed past that time and accumulating...it's becoming a joke...

The PNS released at 4:25 lists NYC at 4.0" as of 11:15am.

Daily report as of 4:00pm says 4.0" as well.

Definitely weird.

LGA is obviously erroneous also, but that's a normal thing and expected.

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It was there for one instant, but we don't need to get into the physics of it now :) Disregarding that then,  Max depth was 9", plus .3" from earlier yesterday(it is the same storm, it never stopped snowing),  and compaction+settling from overnight, I think 10" is sitll reasonable and I sent it to NWS, it corrobrates well with other reports from the immediate area.

-skisheep

 

I hope you mentioned in your NWS report that this was an estimate.  Unless you are measuring per standards, it is just an estimate.

 

Was your max depth on lawn, a deck or table, or a snow board?

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A storm like this is why you really should be doing the snow board method. Measure after 6 hours, clear the board, measure after the next 6 hours, etc. 

 

Oddly, I cleared one one board and didn't clear another.  The max depth on the board that I did not clear was greater than the total of the two measurements from the board that I did clear.  I think the solar gain on the cleared board messed it up.

 

My total is going to be the max depth on the board, 5.9"

 

Counting Thursday mornings snow, my total is 6.9"

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I'm going to go with 9" in Dobbs Ferry...the town measured a bit over 7" at 855am and probably picked up about 2" more. Being at 350' means I probably received a bit more than some of the measurements from neighboring downtown Ardsley, which reported 7.5". There was about 5-6" total when I left for work at 6:30am, so this is the best estimate I can make. Beautiful scene in town right now with a wet March snow plastering everything. 

 

This storm brings me to 46.25" on the year. That's very similar to 08-09 when the town received 45". Getting a decent event in March raises the grade for Winter 12-13 to a B, as we've now had a 17" storm, a 9" storm, and an 8" storm. The cold season has been VERY long this year, starting on November 7th with the 8" that fell that afternoon. November was a very cold month, and March looks to finish well below average with much above normal snow (expecting another event), so I have to give extra points for longevity. The grade could improve to a B+/A- if we see a MECS/HECS in March, which is entirely possible the way things are looking. 

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It was nice when the NWS was still at 30 rock and I think that they sent mets or techs over to the park to measure.

Just given how intensely the snow was coming down in Midtown, I'm quite surprised they didn't hit 5" and I thought they had a shot at 6". They were snow/heavy snow for 4 straight hours. 11:15 was about when it shut off so I guess that's when the zookeeper measured.

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November snowfall......above

December...................below

January.......................below

February.....................above

March.........................above

 

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/nycnormals.htm

 

I could go into a diatribe about my dislike for 30 year averages as somehow being representative of the climate...but it's a Friday, it snowed, and we have had that discussion before

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This storm brings me to 46.25" on the year.

 

Hmm...you got me beat by seventy-five cents. 

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I hope you mentioned in your NWS report that this was an estimate.  Unless you are measuring per standards, it is just an estimate.

 

Was your max depth on lawn, a deck or table, or a snow board?

I did mention that it was an estimate, and on a lawn(deck/table probably 1” less or so), mentioned it all in the report, I’m actually kind of surprised that they included it and took my weird estimated compaction stuff that everyone here tossed(and rightfully so, I’m honestly shocked that they took the 10”, unless they got another report from somewhere(north stamford?))

-skisheep

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Oddly, I cleared one one board and didn't clear another.  The max depth on the board that I did not clear was greater than the total of the two measurements from the board that I did clear.  I think the solar gain on the cleared board messed it up.

 

My total is going to be the max depth on the board, 5.9"

 

Counting Thursday mornings snow, my total is 6.9"

Yeah, I threw a board out when I got up to see what would happen, and it got nothing while the pack got another 2” or so.

-skisheep

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This storm raised the grade for the winter from C+ to A-, having something unexpected is really awesome, it’s so much more fun to have a 4-6” storm become 10” than a storm that was always supposed to be 10” all along, it really made my winter. I don’t think we are done yet, EURO and GGEM today liked the end of next week for some potential, Upton was yakking about it also in their long range.

-skisheep

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Had 10.3" @ 10:45am. Snow pack now measures 10.6". However the tire tracks that I left at 10:45am have a fresh 1" accumulation.

 

Final tally 11.3"

 

Are you near Stillwell?  I am debating if its worth getting up early for a ski before we get too many barespots.  I'm near Caleb Smith which is good for skiing, except most of this snow is probably dripping out ot the evergreens at Caleb Smith instead of covering the ground.

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I could go into a diatribe about my dislike for 30 year averages as somehow being representative of the climate...but it's a Friday, it snowed, and we have had that discussion before

 

It's not perfect, but at least we can have something to be happy about after the mini January and February snow drought.

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Just given how intensely the snow was coming down in Midtown, I'm quite surprised they didn't hit 5" and I thought they had a shot at 6". They were snow/heavy snow for 4 straight hours. 11:15 was about when it shut off so I guess that's when the zookeeper measured.

 

The trip my college class took to 30 Rock back in the 80's was one of my favorites. It was really cool to put faces on

the NOAA weather radio voices that I had been listening to for years. That was also the first time that I met Al Roker when

he was giving a talk there as part of a presentation.

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Are you near Stillwell?  I am debating if its worth getting up early for a ski before we get too many barespots.  I'm near Caleb Smith which is good for skiing, except most of this snow is probably dripping out ot the evergreens at Caleb Smith instead of covering the ground.

 

Yes. I live near Syosset HS. 

 

Usually run on the Stillwell trails. Use the soccer field entrance.

 

Have you been there since the hurricane. Lots of trees destoyed.

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I did mention that it was an estimate, and on a lawn(deck/table probably 1” less or so), mentioned it all in the report, I’m actually kind of surprised that they included it and took my weird estimated compaction stuff that everyone here tossed(and rightfully so, I’m honestly shocked that they took the 10”, unless they got another report from somewhere(north stamford?))

-skisheep

 

I caught up with some of that detail after I posted.

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