Amped Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Good stuff Memories, light the corners of my mind Misty watercolor memories of the way we were.... Thanks just needed to make sure nobody thought this was just a minor bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickinBaltimore Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Those are some long ass posts telling us how it didn't snow when all I need to do is look outside and know It didn't snow a damn flake here. Ugh, at least IMBY it's a bust (and I honestly was expecting 2-3" at best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnis Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The analysis of all the model runs was really good with this storm. We dissected them from top to bottom. Hashed out all the fine details. Rode them to the highest high even as snow was already falling. The one thing we kinda missed was that they were all f***ing wrong. Lol!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattskiva Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Some quick photos during the higher rates earlier today. Didn't amount to a lot but it was fun to watch. Huge beautiful flakes, some of the biggest I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Coastal bust is one thing, but these temp busts are even worse. Was supposed to be high of 33F today and it's 39F outside now - even with clearing skies. I may not have any snow left by morning at the rate it's melting. 10" on the ground at 9 AM (with forecasted additional 4 - 8); and by nightfall the majority is gone already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I guess everybody has a letdown feeling with this storm. Somebody will say how can you be let down with an 11.5 inch snow? Well, it goes to two things which for me ended up being the same thing. What I was hoping for was an all day mod-heavy snow. I never wanted 20 inches or even a foot. I was hoping for about 6" that fell over about an 8 hour period. Then I hoped it melted the next day. I like to watch it snow. Well what I got was 9" by 7am (over performer btw) and then 2.5 more by about 9:30. So, I got to see snow for a couple daylight hours, and spend about an hour and a half plowing the driveway and shoveling the walks and deck. The early part of the storm was great. Forecast of 3-5 turned into 9. The part I wanted, the all day long, was what fell apart. I knew as soon as the precip took on the ne-sw direction back here that it was over. We were too far from the low at that point. We only do really well back here with precip coming from the south, be it sw, se, or just s. Precip with a northerly component to its direction just won't work this far west and this close to the mountains. Feb 10, 10 is a perfect example of that. It's like the low wound itself up too quickly for the long duration event back this way. Now I hope winter is over. It was a tough year, much tougher for some than for me. We can all look ahead to next year with hope. One fun part for me has been hanging around this forum and being able to share thoughts with so many outstanding people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnis Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The analysis of all the model runs was really good with this storm. We dissected them from top to bottom. Hashed out all the fine details. Rode them to the highest high even as snow was already falling. The one thing we kinda missed was that they were all f***ing wrong. Your analysis was/is much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I think one problem with how it evolved was that initial WAA band that was supposed to really crank, ran way out ahead of the upper level system and lost its support. This really killed its ability to become a super band, instead it was just 8 hours of light to moderate precip. I don't think the models, the globals anyways, did badly with the second half of the storm. They were all hinting the storm would go through that messy transition and that banding would become more spotty the second half of the storm. Problem was we should have all had 4-8" of snow by then and with a colder boundary due to dynamic cooling we could have then picked up a few more inches in bands and it might have worked out. That initial band running out ahead and weakening really pulled the rug out of this system. It just never got its act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Some pretty impressive photos on Facebook of major flooding in Ocean City. http://www.facebook.com/thedispatchoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wow. Can't believe this busted so badly for DC--I'll be back in McLean this Friday, and was looking forward to 12" of concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Good stuff Lol, I wonder if you would be saying this if you had been rained on all day instead of the nice snow that you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Did I really just read 2 complaints about getting 10+. Anyone see the movie falling down? I might re-enact tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Did I really just read 2 complaints about getting 10+. Anyone see the movie falling down? I might re-enact tomorrow. And all I want is more than 2 damn inches . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Your analysis was/is much appreciated I appreciate it but apparently it's mostly for entertainment purposes only. It's been a whole lotta typing and no shoveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wow. Can't believe this busted so badly for DC--I'll be back in McLean this Friday, and was looking forward to 12" of concrete. it's march this stuff is going to melt in 45 seconds tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I appreciate it but apparently it's mostly for entertainment purposes only. It's been a whole lotta typing and no shoveling. Keep plugging Bob, next year all your work will pay off. Look if the Ravens can win the Super Bowl and the Orioles can make the playoffs in the same year it shows that miracles are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesapeakeTechie Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 To make everyone feel better about their low snow totals - near the Bay we just got rain, 0 accumulation. Major bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I guess everybody has a letdown feeling with this storm. Somebody will say how can you be let down with an 11.5 inch snow? Well, it goes to two things which for me ended up being the same thing. What I was hoping for was an all day mod-heavy snow. I never wanted 20 inches or even a foot. I was hoping for about 6" that fell over about an 8 hour period. Then I hoped it melted the next day. I like to watch it snow. Well what I got was 9" by 7am (over performer btw) and then 2.5 more by about 9:30. So, I got to see snow for a couple daylight hours, and spend about an hour and a half plowing the driveway and shoveling the walks and deck. The early part of the storm was great. Forecast of 3-5 turned into 9. The part I wanted, the all day long, was what fell apart. I knew as soon as the precip took on the ne-sw direction back here that it was over. We were too far from the low at that point. We only do really well back here with precip coming from the south, be it sw, se, or just s. Precip with a northerly component to its direction just won't work this far west and this close to the mountains. Feb 10, 10 is a perfect example of that. It's like the low wound itself up too quickly for the long duration event back this way. Now I hope winter is over. It was a tough year, much tougher for some than for me. We can all look ahead to next year with hope. One fun part for me has been hanging around this forum and being able to share thoughts with so many outstanding people. Yeah, we were golden last night with the precip moving in from the SSW. As soon as that changed this morning the rates let up and that was the kiss of death for us. Had this been January we still could've salvaged another 2 - 3 inches from the light stuff that fell up to 1:30 PM. That lull around 9:30 allowed the boundary layer to warm and I suspected then that we weren't going to be able to recover from it. It's a real shame that we got our biggest snow in 3 years yet are still left disappointed. I feel bad for everyone. DC/Balt crew just got royally screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 it's march this stuff is going to melt in 45 seconds tomorrow Since when does rain melt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thanks just needed to make sure nobody thought this was just a minor bust. it was an across the board bust.. but some of your comments are out of context of course. for the record i didn't think it was producing feb 2010 totals. the pattern was similar. i dunno what happened last night.. cascade effect. i swear everyone got each other into super weenie mode and it ran through multiple spheres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I appreciate it but apparently it's mostly for entertainment purposes only. It's been a whole lotta typing and no shoveling. Maybe we should have a MA rule next winter of no weather discussion, models especially more than 48 hours into the future. Call it the 48 and under disco thread. All other threads would be contests, banter, or past event discussion threads. Suspend for one day anyone who made mention of anything beyond 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 it was an across the board bust.. but some of your comments are out of context of course. for the record i didn't think it was producing feb 2010 totals. the pattern was similar. i dunno what happened last night.. cascade effect. i swear everyone got each other into super weenie mode and it ran through multiple spheres. Don't beat yourself up you did just as good as any other met in the world with this, except that 15 year old wiz kid. Just remember your usual strategy of being pessimistic works here 95% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 it's march this stuff is going to melt in 45 seconds tomorrow I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 it's march this stuff is going to melt in 45 seconds tomorrow Actually, that's one thing this has going for it. If I had 4" of normal snow or fluff, it would have been obliterated by the rain and rising temps this afternoon. Instead, we have super ratio snow that fell at 6:1 and then sucked in all of the rest of the precip that fell later. Now it is just condensed paste that may hang on for a few extra hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 it was an across the board bust.. but some of your comments are out of context of course. for the record i didn't think it was producing feb 2010 totals. the pattern was similar. i dunno what happened last night.. cascade effect. i swear everyone got each other into super weenie mode and it ran through multiple spheres. Yes we entered a weenie trans like state. And yes that 925MB map showing the colder than forecasted temps I'm guessing was the problem. I'm guessing a bad init on models had the airmass off the Jersey shore way to cold, I still am struggling to get below 37F at 9pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Don't beat yourself up you did just as good as any other met in the world with this, except that 15 year old wiz kid. Just remember your usual strategy of being pessimistic works here 95% of the time. I'm sure it will be a long time before I'm optimistic again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm sure it will be a long time before I'm optimistic again That's what I am afraid of, even if we get a Nino next winter you will probably poo poo every storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm sure it will be a long time before I'm optimistic again If it makes you feel any better, I spent 2 hours shoveling wet cement this afternoon in nearly gale-force winds, and by 10 AM tomorrow you and I are going to have the exact same amount of snow..... if not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm sure it will be a long time before I'm optimistic again We were probably too "believing" for a couple of reasons. One, it's March. Two, we had no sign of a cold air mass. Three, regardless of what some say, we had too much sun and warmth yesterday. That heat has to go somewhere. This setup from Dec 15-Feb 15 would have produced a snow storm 10 out of 10 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Did I really just read 2 complaints about getting 10+. Anyone see the movie falling down? I might re-enact tomorrow. Meh, I'd be bummed too if I'd slept through the vast majority of it. EDIT: apparently WinterwxLuvr was up since 4am. In that case he's got no room to complain. I'm jealous as fook of all the awesome pics he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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