free_man Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ended up being the right call! Nice one. I swear that some people would still complain if they recieved 6 feet just because someone else got 8. I personally made a call of 1-2 feet Monday generally speaking and stuck to it. I'm not dissapointed from the reports and amounts adding up. STFU and enjoy what you get. Keep the complaining to the people that deserve to - beachfront owners losing homes and property. To that end there is no comparing. Suckerholed with an all day non-accumulating snow yesterday holding amounts locally down but still 1"/hr rates with 8" otg and counting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 It never snows in March. Morch. Sprng fling. Fat lady humming. Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 BEST SPRING EVER!!!! :sun: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ironically there was an article on CNN's main web--page related GW being the greatest single 100 year rise in temperature in over 11,000 years! Normally I would think that this should be the last hurrah of the winter - though year to year the probability is never zero through May 1 .... But for all intents and purposes, the odds slope off pretty steeply from March 15 onward, and with that date fast approaching, and needing at least 7 days to recharge to the field, it may as well be the 15th now... However, there is a sneaky ..albeit weak signal but there nonetheless, for the 15th through the 17th. It's interesting that the operational GFS has been teasing those dates as of late. After that, the EPO is rising, the PNA is falling...and the NAO is rising. That should begin a transition/acceleration toward month's end. But doesn't this year just feel like a cold April bomb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Great storm guys. Could of swore we had one just like it a few days ago back in the MA. Was weird, it suddenly disappeared and nobody could figure out what happened to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Ironically there was an article on CNN's main web--page related GW being the greatest single 100 year rise in temperature in over 11,000 years! Normally I would think that this should be the last hurrah of the winter - though year to year the probability is never zero through May 1 .... But for all intents and purposes, the odds slope off pretty steeply from March 15 onward, and with that date fast approaching, and needing at least 7 days to recharge to the field, it may as well be the 15th now... However, there is a sneaky ..albeit weak signal but there nonetheless, for the 15th through the 17th. It's interesting that the operational GFS has been teasing those dates as of late. After that, the EPO is rising, the PNA is falling...and the NAO is rising. That should begin a transition/acceleration toward month's end. But doesn't this year just feel like a cold April bomb? May of 2002 says "hi" meekly and May 1977 says "Howdy!!" with a slap on the nape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Next time we have a big threat everyone will go balls to walls on tv and it'll whiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Next time we have a big threat everyone will go balls to walls on tv and it'll whiff. This storm will be a fascinating case study on so many levels...starting with the big Mid-Atlantic bust...and then the bust up here in the other direction. If there is a lesson to be learned though...respect the firehose coming off the Atlantic for 500-700 miles...in more technical terms when we line up deep layer easterly flow on that type of fetch with good blocking high in Quebec to sort of hold in a slightly denser/colder airmass (even if it was semi-stale)...that moisture is just going to run into a brick wall like a freight train crash and wring out a lot of that moisture fairly efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Would you rank this as a HECS? I would rank it as a MECS with some HECS in some locations: Blue Hill, or Foxboro, or Weymouth. I am very impressed by the 30" at Blue Hill. wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 You close to 20"? Jay I no longer measure. It's between 15-20. I've been called-out so many times. I let the neighbors speak for me Ended up being the right call! Nice one. Like a clock is right twice a day. Models will get you to the dance but years of watching knew this was going to deliver. Actually put a map on FB Tuesday for the office crowd refined once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Wow...did you post that here at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Everything went perfectly, if not exceeding expectations. That doesn't happen often, especially in March. It's amazing. This storm will be a fascinating case study on so many levels...starting with the big Mid-Atlantic bust...and then the bust up here in the other direction. If there is a lesson to be learned though...respect the firehose coming off the Atlantic for 500-700 miles...in more technical terms when we line up deep layer easterly flow on that type of fetch with good blocking high in Quebec to sort of hold in a slightly denser/colder airmass (even if it was semi-stale)...that moisture is just going to run into a brick wall like a freight train crash and wring out a lot of that moisture fairly efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Wow...did you post that here at all? Private stock, friends and family. Couldn't handle the criticism here if it was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Don, bust or not, I think you are respected here. I wish you posted more, but I understand. Some of us...ahem..need to post less. That map was sweet. I thought 6" for me. Only 1/3 of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Thanks Dave Without question the next gathering of the floak. Need to put faces to these names in here. Great group of people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 This storm will be a fascinating case study on so many levels...starting with the big Mid-Atlantic bust...and then the bust up here in the other direction. If there is a lesson to be learned though...respect the firehose coming off the Atlantic for 500-700 miles...in more technical terms when we line up deep layer easterly flow on that type of fetch with good blocking high in Quebec to sort of hold in a slightly denser/colder airmass (even if it was semi-stale)...that moisture is just going to run into a brick wall like a freight train crash and wring out a lot of that moisture fairly efficiently. While drinking something with an umbrella sticking out of the top of it in about 12 hours I will try to reflect on this whole thing. This was tiring but really a lot of fun. People think I care one way or another about snow in MBY. I knew I was cooked and was just hoping for some snow which we got. Watching the totals come in today was awesome. I got a little gunshy with the criticisms about the top 3 and later top 10 storm. I don't know where it ranks for blue hill but it had to be pretty good. I deferred on Worcester to your knowledge when you'd mentioned the 10" offline when most were saying nothing we agreed that was a fair number (this was like Tuesday night). I really felt 10-20 was coming in the area around foxboro. As birving said this did exceed. I figured 1000' high Worcester had a shot at 20 I didn't quite expect so many places to rack up 20ish. I forget what night the models waffled and things looked shaky until the euro held again and again. You were right and this was fascinating to me in terms of being able to see just how astonishingly good the euro was. To be able to look ahead 12-15 hours and see tiny 500mb features like the one that ripped down the bay bridge the other night...the euro nailed those little things. Goofus didn't have the resolution and the nam etc... Nowhere close. When you can look at a model and see that it's that accurate at that level of detail...a feature maybe 10 miles wide at 500mb...lol it gave comfort when the other models were not looking good. This is where I took issue with another red tagger a month or two ago. I do think there is justification for closely studying model performance vs vapor imagery when trying to ascertain which model was on the right track. Maybe if some of the local forecasters that were on the fence took the time to see just how accurate it really was they'd have had more trust in its eventual forecast. I had as much fun on this one as I did 1/25/00, maybe more on this one because it hit my area where 1/25 was more down the coast but I do put it in that class. Noaa had a forecast that was exceeded by as much as 10x in some areas and the other sources were even worse. It may be 10-20 years before we see that again. What is still strange to me is that unlike 2000 this was almost perfectly modeled and many still got it wrong which goes to show how subjective this can be. I really appreciated all your input and insight. It's good to have a sounding board for ideas and to also have someone with superior knowledge fill in some of the gaps in my own knowledge. Good stuff Will that was a lot of fun. I hope one of you guys does a write up. These are the storms that should have their own archive on sites like these. I thought everyone here, even those that disagreed really added to the conversation. Eduggs brought up a lot of good points. These were things that in the end as each ticked off the list from maybe to yes the euro was right built more confidence. I'm mainly joking about the gfs and wanted to make it clear i appreciate the hard work the modeling teams put into it. I agree with Scott we need more funding there less funding on climate voodo sosome professor can get a pet project moving. Our models are slipping below the CMC and that's not good. I do hope people stop making excuses for the bust on tv. This wind thing is basically like saying the dog ate my RAOB. Just say we didnt believe the best model we have. What was inexplicable to me is the slow motion everyone was in. Slow to raise the flag, taking it down, slow to raise accumulations. Just odd. Random thoughts. In laws are here and the house is full so off we go to let them have run of the joint. I will post up some pictures from a warm beach. Great stuff everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Yeah really guys great stuff by all of you that took time tracking this storm, this board pretty much out-forecasted the tv outlets, and for that I applaud/thank you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Can we squeak out one more before the off season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Silly question regarding the next few days as they are schedule to be seasonably mild; are we in store for a good melt? I have some basement concerns as my basement tends to get wet, but fortunately my yard was snow free, until yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nest weekend looks rather interesting. Actually as we move through this upcoming week the entire pattern becomes interesting b/c the GFS/Euro actually really start to diverge with many aspects of the large scale pattern. The GFS really develops that ridge across the western US which leads to a pretty deep trough along the east here...this would be good for more snow threats, however, the pattern doesn't really look like it would be all that active though but that is something that can always change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nest weekend looks rather interesting. Actually as we move through this upcoming week the entire pattern becomes interesting b/c the GFS/Euro actually really start to diverge with many aspects of the large scale pattern. The GFS really develops that ridge across the western US which leads to a pretty deep trough along the east here...this would be good for more snow threats, however, the pattern doesn't really look like it would be all that active though but that is something that can always change. The pattern looks extremely active. And stop using the GFS..The gov't has admitted it is broken THIS ALSOSUPPORTS THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE WINTRY WEATHER GIVEN THE STORM TRACKWILL BE NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND. THE WILD CARD WILL BETHE AMPLITUDE OF THE PATTERN. TELECONNECTIONS SUPPORT APOTENTIALLY ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN WITH AO AND NAO REMAININGNEGATIVE COMBINED WITH PNA POSSIBLY UNDER GOING A PHASE CHANGEFROM NEG TO POSITIVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The pattern looks extremely active. And stop using the GFS..The gov't has admitted it is broken THIS ALSOSUPPORTS THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE WINTRY WEATHER GIVEN THE STORM TRACKWILL BE NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND. THE WILD CARD WILL BETHE AMPLITUDE OF THE PATTERN. TELECONNECTIONS SUPPORT APOTENTIALLY ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN WITH AO AND NAO REMAININGNEGATIVE COMBINED WITH PNA POSSIBLY UNDER GOING A PHASE CHANGEFROM NEG TO POSITIVE. Talk about this in the spring thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 oops...posted that in the wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Talk about this in the spring thread. I have a banter thread going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I have a banter thread going I mean for more pattern type disco. Edit: I see it now Ginxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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