The Dude Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wow doesn't LWX have local storm reports? No local storm reports on GRLevel3 screen or http://kamala.cod.edu/va You have to actually have a local storm before you can get local storm reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 It snowed here, so it wasn't actually a major bust IMBY, but I am seriously bummed for everyone that got shut out. The only thing worse than DC winters are DC summers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 It snowed here, so it wasn't actually a major bust IMBY, but I am seriously bummed for everyone that got shut out. The only thing worse than DC winters are DC summers. Even hell is an icebox compared to our summers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I like DC summers. Only days that really get me are the ones where it's like 85/74 at 9 am. So, July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I like DC summers. Only days that really get me are the ones where it's like 85/74 at 9 am. So, July. You must have a gland disorder that prevents you from sweating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarsden Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Keep patient. It's coming. Much appreciated the dude. I'm out back on the porch waiting. From what I'm hearing 8" plus is pretty much a lock for my area. Looks like no work for this guy tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Cant wait to move to the Carolina's. At least I wont be teased with these winter systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Maybe the last three years, from BDB to today, have been nature's way of driving every snow enthusiast away from ever tracking weather again. Then, when all the forum traffic is gone, all the facebook pages and twitter feeds are deleted, everyone's giving up tracking, and no one cares anymore... ...then we'll get a surprise MECS the first week of April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 DC & Philly absolutely suck. Philly had a similar storm in November where 24hrs out models showed heavy rates producing 6-12" even with marginal air. You know the rest of that story. Our fortunes will change eventually. Just sucks that in this hobby you need to take 8 month breaks in between. That 6-12 actually DID verify in Ocean and Monmouth Counties. It's impossible to nail a NORLUN perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I wish we could somehow remove July and August from the calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 We take busts like champs at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I was telling Matt that I literally felt sick to my stomach watching what happened around DC today...and I don't even live there. But as huge snow lover it was impossible not to sympathize. I was thinking DCA had a legit shot at 6" (and IAD 10")...the post mortem on this will be interesting (and painful to look at). I'm guessing one of the factors was how tucked in the low was down in VA...it may have made warming the BL more efficient to the north and also focused the core of the dynamics in C VA. Still, probably some other factors...but its a sh** sandwich going through these types of busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm tracking heat now. I'm guaranteed to get destroyed multiple times every year. And I can still score small events Dec-feb Heat, wind, and minor severe are far better options in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I was telling Matt that I literally felt sick to my stomach watching what happened around DC today...and I don't even live there. But as huge snow lover it was impossible not to sympathize. I was thinking DCA had a legit shot at 6" (and IAD 10")...the post mortem on this will be interesting (and painful to look at). I'm guessing one of the factors was how tucked in the low was down in VA...it may have made warming the BL more efficient to the north and also focused the core of the dynamics in C VA. Still, probably some other factors...but its a sh** sandwich going through these types of busts. He says as he fuels up his snowblower for another 10 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 We take busts like champs at least We probably should have seen this one coming anyway. If the clown maps aren't even giving you snow you need to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Cant wait to move to the Carolina's. At least I wont be teased with these winter systems. They get more snow down there than we do. And didn't you get like five inches today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 He says as he fuels up his snowblower for another 10 inches. No guarantees here either. I know how it felt in Feb 2010...we got screwed on a Miller B while you guys were getting 1-2 feet. My worst bust I've had forecasting professionally. Watching shredded precip with a temp of 33F while to the south was in the 20s and heavy snow. Its a sickening feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 good storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohleary Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Dear Mother Nature, Well played. Regards, ECMWF, GFS, NAM, and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 We probably should have seen this one coming anyway. If the clown maps aren't even giving you snow you need to pay attention.In retrospect its totally obvious we are all snow hounds who put blinders on at least in the screw zone. That said if things came together better we could have possibly had those few extra degrees. Plenty of moisture but a weird anemic banding structure at a lot of times. When that first band hit me around 330 and it was 20 feet wide and not that impressive it was probably done. The stuff around 830 would have been amazing at 3am and then continuing to like 6. Everyone should have bailed as the sun came up and it was a suck fest around here. March might as well be summer if you aren't on a hilltop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I was telling Matt that I literally felt sick to my stomach watching what happened around DC today...and I don't even live there. But as huge snow lover it was impossible not to sympathize. I was thinking DCA had a legit shot at 6" (and IAD 10")...the post mortem on this will be interesting (and painful to look at). I'm guessing one of the factors was how tucked in the low was down in VA...it may have made warming the BL more efficient to the north and also focused the core of the dynamics in C VA. Still, probably some other factors...but its a sh** sandwich going through these types of busts. the lack of cold air anywhere close to us made getting a good snow even more difficult than it already is. we don't do complex scenarios very well down here and never have as far as i can remember. we need simple storms. cold air in place with waa. we pull a coup every now and then, but when you only average 15" or so of snow a year and most of that is skewed by big winters, then you know you're in a tough spot. it just is what is, and if anything, due to global warming (for whatever reason), it's getting a little worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohleary Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 In retrospect its totally obvious we are all snow hounds who put blinders on at least in the screw zone. That said if things came together better we could have possibly had those few extra degrees. Plenty of moisture but a weird anemic banding structure at a lot of times. When that first band hit me around 330 and it was 20 feet wide and not that impressive it was probably done. The stuff around 830 would have been amazing at 3am and then continuing to like 6. Everyone should have bailed as the sun came up and it was a suck feat around here. Every one bought into it. We wanted snow. Oh well. Spring is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 the lack of cold air anywhere close to us made getting a good snow even more difficult than it already is. we don't do complex scenarios very well down here and never have as far as i can remember. we need simple storms. cold air in place with waa. we pull a coup every now and then, but when you only average 15" or so of snow a year and most of that is skewed by big winters, then you know you're in a tough spot. it just is what is, and if anything, due to global warming (for whatever reason), it's getting a little worse. I think its easy in hindsight to just say "it was complex and it was a warm antecedent airmass). I was going for big snow down there too and I had no real emotional investment. So many classic things were in place for a wet snow bomb...but perhaps the the low just tuckd in a bit too close and the antecedent airmass didn't help. The really intense banding didn't seem to materialize as any meteorologist or weather savvy person would have predcted based on all the available data. Most people started as snow or went to snow very quickly at the onset of the storm...so there were other factors at play other than the stale airmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Looks like the heat from last summer is hurting you guys. agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacindc Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If you would all just blame it on the corn dust, it would be a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I think its easy in hindsight to just say "it was complex and it was a warm antecedent airmass). I was going for big snow down there too and I had no real emotional investment. So many classic things were in place for a wet snow bomb...but perhaps the the low just tuckd in a bit too close and the antecedent airmass didn't help. The really intense banding didn't seem to materialize as any meteorologist or weather savvy person would have predcted based on all the available data. Most people started as snow or went to snow very quickly at the onset of the storm...so there were other factors at play other than the stale airmass. we needed the storm to develop faster, we needed it stronger, we needed it a little further away, we needed cooler ocean temps, we needed a few degrees colder...honestly, before the storm came deep down i had a feeling we needed too many things for this one. i wasn't happy about the temps outside on tuesday before this storm. it reminded me of how it felt the day before the 93 superstorm except it wasn't a superstorm. even that storm kicked over to sleet for hours. it's just not easy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 good storm I really do miss Barbara Watson and her wonderful storm maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subtropics Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Was that really necessary? At least we don't live in South Carolina... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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