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March 6th Storm Banter Thread


Bob Chill

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This new Bob Ryan ABC 7 video timeline and forecast seems reasonable.  Says 3 to 6 for DC and "much much more" out west.

 

 

I guess he doesn't really buy the latest GFS and its mixing. His animation looks very bullish for Baltimore based on his heavy snow axis.

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I guess he doesn't really buy the latest GFS and its mixing. His animation looks very bullish for Baltimore based on his heavy snow axis.

I agree, and don't see how that animated map adds up to his forecasted amount of "three to as much as six" if DC proper switches from mix to snow at 8am. 

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Shouldn't The Great DTini have produced his promised call map by now?

Still dealing with all of his minions asking how many feet to expect in Frog Holler, NC, I reckon.

Maps don't even usually solve that problem. Not sure a lot of people know where they are on a map.
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the GFS initializes at 10:30....unless you are 80 years old or you have to be at work at 3am and you operate heavy machinery, you should stay up

Or if you have a 2 month old and you get sleep whenever you can

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Everyone needs to stop hugging one or two particular model runs. Take a peek at the HPC site and learn from the pros. A blend of the models/model runs is the way to go.

no, you just need to know which model to hug

and by the way, BWI has been mostly, if not all, snow on the last few NAM runs, not just 18z

http://coolwx.com/cgi-bin/getbufr.cgi?region=MD&stn=KBWI&model=nam&time=current&field=prec

 

and before anyone says that graph is cr@p, check it against the soundings; I think it is very accurate

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.SHORT TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

UPDATED...

WE`VE SPENT OUR TIME BTWN 4:00 AND 6:30 PM TRYING TO FINE TUNE

SOME OF THE SNOW GRIDS. I HV SOME CONCERNS ABT THE TIME PERIOD OF

6-12Z WED MRNG. TO BEGIN - THE STARTING TEMP: MDLS ARE GIVING HIGH

TEMPS ON TUE OF M40S. SUSPECT IT`S GOING TO REQUIRE SNOW TO FALL

FOR SVRL HRS BEFORE ACCUMS REALLY GET GOING. I HV CUT BACK THE

SNOW TOTAL GRIDS E OF THE MTNS IN THAT WED 6-12Z TIMEFRAME. I`M

ALSO CONCERNED ABT THE TEMP OF THE AIR COLUMN...ESPECIALLY IN THE

DC/BALT AND E CORRIDOR. THRU 12Z WED WOULDN`T BE SURPRISED TO SEE

THE PCPN IN THE I-95 OSCILATING BTWN RA AND SN - LARGE FLAKES THAT

SPLATTER ON CONTACT. IN ADTN THE ATLC WATER TEMP OFF THE DELMARVA

IS IN THE L40S. THERE IS ALSO NOT A DECENT SOURCE OF CD AIR - ON

THIS AFTN`S SFC ANLYS YOU HV TO GO TO NW QUEBEC TO FIND SUB 20

TEMPS. SO IN ALL FEEL IF ANYTHING OUR SNOW TOTALS THRU 12Z WED MAY

HV BEEN A BIT ON THE HIGH SIDE...SO TWEAKED DOWN.

FEEL THAT THE 18-00Z WED AND 00-06Z THU PDS MAY BE THE TIMES WHEN

SNOW DOES ACCUMULATE IN THE I-95 CORRIDOR. BY REG WE ONLY RUN THE

SNOW TOTAL MAP THRU 00Z THU...SO TOTALS MAY END UP BEING MORE...

ESPECIALLY IN THE E.

WE WL MOST LKLY BE ISSUING A WIN STORM WRNG FOR THE WRN PART OF

THE AREA IN THE NEXT FEW HRS...BUT LV THE ERN PART OF THE AREA IN

A WTCH.

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no, you just need to know which model to hug

and by the way, BWI has been mostly, if not all, snow on the last few NAM runs, not just 18z

http://coolwx.com/cgi-bin/getbufr.cgi?region=MD&stn=KBWI&model=nam&time=current&field=prec

 

and before anyone says that graph is cr@p, check it against the soundings; I think it is very accurate

NAM soundings are definitely all snow for BWI.  They're just probably a bit too cold.

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.SHORT TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

UPDATED...

WE`VE SPENT OUR TIME BTWN 4:00 AND 6:30 PM TRYING TO FINE TUNE
SOME OF THE SNOW GRIDS. I HV SOME CONCERNS ABT THE TIME PERIOD OF
6-12Z WED MRNG. TO BEGIN - THE STARTING TEMP: MDLS ARE GIVING HIGH
TEMPS ON TUE OF M40S. SUSPECT IT`S GOING TO REQUIRE SNOW TO FALL
FOR SVRL HRS BEFORE ACCUMS REALLY GET GOING. I HV CUT BACK THE
SNOW TOTAL GRIDS E OF THE MTNS IN THAT WED 6-12Z TIMEFRAME. I`M
ALSO CONCERNED ABT THE TEMP OF THE AIR COLUMN...ESPECIALLY IN THE
DC/BALT AND E CORRIDOR. THRU 12Z WED WOULDN`T BE SURPRISED TO SEE
THE PCPN IN THE I-95 OSCILATING BTWN RA AND SN - LARGE FLAKES THAT
SPLATTER ON CONTACT. IN ADTN THE ATLC WATER TEMP OFF THE DELMARVA
IS IN THE L40S. THERE IS ALSO NOT A DECENT SOURCE OF CD AIR - ON
THIS AFTN`S SFC ANLYS YOU HV TO GO TO NW QUEBEC TO FIND SUB 20
TEMPS. SO IN ALL FEEL IF ANYTHING OUR SNOW TOTALS THRU 12Z WED MAY
HV BEEN A BIT ON THE HIGH SIDE...SO TWEAKED DOWN.

FEEL THAT THE 18-00Z WED AND 00-06Z THU PDS MAY BE THE TIMES WHEN
SNOW DOES ACCUMULATE IN THE I-95 CORRIDOR. BY REG WE ONLY RUN THE
SNOW TOTAL MAP THRU 00Z THU...SO TOTALS MAY END UP BEING MORE...
ESPECIALLY IN THE E.

WE WL MOST LKLY BE ISSUING A WIN STORM WRNG FOR THE WRN PART OF
THE AREA IN THE NEXT FEW HRS...BUT LV THE ERN PART OF THE AREA IN
A WTCH.

This is how it starts. First they dont change the watch to a warning and then they change the remaining watch into a WWA.

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This is how it starts. First they dont change the watch to a warning and then they change the remaining watch into a WWA.

 

Well...they don't really define exactly where they will issue the warning. I don't think they are doing this in preparation to downgrade - more just uncertainty. Could end up this way but your thinking is off. 

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