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March 6-8th Ocean Storm Discussion Part II


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UKMET is probalby a bigger hit vs CMC but who can tell...

 

I agree...Ukie would probably look really nice if we could go one more panel or two after the 72h panel....still not quite GFS territory but more solid than the nuisance event (maybe 3-6?) the GGEM shows verbatim.

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  •  ‎*** ALERT 12Z CMC STAYS SOUTH -- MOSTLY -- HUGE SNOWS FOR WEST CENTRAL VA .. NE VA .. DCA ... INTO MUCH OF MD

    KEEPS 90% OF SNOW OUT OF NYC CT LONG ISLAND MASS ..

    again LOOK at the data image

 

Hes so full of himself...I used to enjoy him, he totally ignores the huge shift north the GGEM made, somehow spins it into matching his own thoughts. 

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Speaking of DT, one of his best lines ever was about 5 days before 1/22 when everything was south of here and a miss after the euro came out.

"The 50/50 low is gone, the system clobbers New England, I'm going to blow my brains out" or something like that.

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  •   ‎*** ALERT 12Z CMC STAYS SOUTH -- MOSTLY -- HUGE SNOWS FOR WEST CENTRAL VA .. NE VA .. DCA ... INTO MUCH OF MD

    KEEPS 90% OF SNOW OUT OF NYC CT LONG ISLAND MASS ..

    again LOOK at the data image

 

Blatantly wrong but anyone looking at the GGEM can see that.  Look at 84 now vs 96 last night, LOL.

 

And the Euro's been hell bent on the southern solution for like 3 days now.

 

Not really.  In effect maybe, but it's trended as quickly north as the Euro ever does.  It's steadily lifted the ULL out faster while pulling back the northern stream energy.  The missing piece of the puzzle was the s/w that was off our coast last night that rotates around.  Suspect it'll have that this run, and the Euro will finally come to the SNE GTG.

 

Until the Euro runs toss the Euro and GFS, go with the CMC/UK for now.

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DRAG SPECIAL 12 PM AFD!!!

**POWERFUL SLOW SEAWARD MOVING COASTAL STORM IS THE PRIMARY INFLUENCE ON OUR WEATHER THE FIRST HALF OF THIS PERIOD**

THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH SOME OF OUR INTENT AND FORECAST UNCERTAINTIES. WE'LL UPDATE THAT PRODUCT AGAIN AT 330 PM.

THIS AFD PRODUCT WILL UPDATE AGAIN BETWEEN 330 PM AND 4 PM AS TIME AVAILS.

IF WE ISSUE WATCHES...THEY WILL POST BY 330 PM.

500 MB: A STRENGTHENING CLOSED LOW SHORT WAVE TUE EVENING IN CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN ILLINOIS MOVES TO NEAR NORFOLK VIRGINIA MIDDAY WEDNESDAY THEN SLOWLY NORTHEASTWARD TO NEAR THE BENCHMARK OF 40N/70W MIDDAY THURSDAY. THEREAFTER...IT WEAKENS SLOWLY SOUTHEASTWARD WITH RIDGING OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. COMPLICATIONS IN THE FLOW PATTERN DEVELOPS SUNDAY OVER THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES WITH THE 00Z/4 ECMWF TRYING TO CUT A STRONG SHORTWAVE SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH NEW ENGLAND. HOWEVER...IT ALL SMOOTHS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK AS ANOTHER CLOSED LOW SHORT WAVE MOVES EAST FROM THE PLAINS STATES.

HAZARDS:

TO PREFACE THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING... THE ECMWF HAS GENERALLY NOT BE STELLAR INSIDE OF DAY 5...SINCE THE SANDY EVENT FOR OUR AREA... AND IN MY OPINION...AT LEAST FOR THIS AREA...THE GFS AND ITS ENSEMBLES AS WELL AS THE SREF ARE BETTER PREDICTORS FOR OUR WEATHER. THAT SAID... I AM EXPECTING THE ECMWF TO TREND NORTH IN FUTURE CYCLES AND COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS REGARDING WHAT SHOULD BE A POWERFUL COASTAL STORM FOR OUR AREA AND the FORTUNE THAT ITS NOT STALLING A LITTLE CLOSER TO OUR COAST. THE 12Z UKMET HAS EDGED NORTH.

COASTAL FLOOD WATCH PROBABLE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY MORNING. CERTAINLY MINOR COASTAL FLOODING WILL OCCUR WITH A NORTHEAST SWELL WIND WAVE OF AT LEAST 10 TO 15 FEET. MORE DETAILS ARE IN THE TIDE SECTION.

HIGH WIND: DATA INCONSISTENTLY POINTS TO BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS AT TIMES EXCEEDING 40 KNOTS WEDNESDAY MIDDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT ALONG THE COASTS...MODELS FOCUSING ON DIFFERENT AREAS. EITHER VIA SUSTAINED (35 KTS) OR GUST (50KTS) WE THINK HIGH WIND HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF VERIFYING FOR A SHORT TIME WEDNESDAY.

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MAJOR PREDICTION - I now Know that this storm will be no better than "OK" for us.  This methodology has worked like a charm this season.  My Friend, Hallie, from Texas, who isn't really a fan of our region, come up to do a 1 year Masters at BU.  In the time she has been in Boston, she has seen about 10" of snow:  

 

All the time she has been here, the models show something, and it doesn't really pan out.  But - 

 

She went on a 2 week vacation in late December and Missed - The Dec. 29th Bombogenisis Storm!  

 

She had to go to a funeral out of Nowhere and had to leave February 7th, and came back on February 11th RIGHT as the Snow changed to rain on that Monday morning!!  Literally - Missed the Biblical Blizzard of 2013!  

 

She is leaving Thursday morning for Spring Break - Perfect Right!?!?  Except - The storm is supposed to be in Full Swing by then - Hence: No Good Storm.  

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MAJOR PREDICTION - I now Know that this storm will be no better than "OK" for us.  This methodology has worked like a charm this season.  My Friend, Hallie, from Texas, who isn't really a fan of our region, come up to do a 1 year Masters at BU.  In the time she has been in Boston, she has seen about 10" of snow:  

 

All the time she has been here, the models show something, and it doesn't really pan out.  But - 

 

She went on a 2 week vacation in late December and Missed - The Dec. 29th Bombogenisis Storm!  

 

She had to go to a funeral out of Nowhere and had to leave February 7th, and came back on February 11th RIGHT as the Snow changed to rain on that Monday morning!!  Literally - Missed the Biblical Blizzard of 2013!  

 

She is leaving Thursday morning for Spring Break - Perfect Right!?!?  Except - The storm is supposed to be in Full Swing by then - Hence: No Good Storm.  

Tell her to move her flight up in case it snows.  :snowing:

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DRAG SPECIAL 12 PM AFD!!!

**POWERFUL SLOW SEAWARD MOVING COASTAL STORM IS THE PRIMARY INFLUENCE ON OUR WEATHER THE FIRST HALF OF THIS PERIOD**

THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH SOME OF OUR INTENT AND FORECAST UNCERTAINTIES. WE'LL UPDATE THAT PRODUCT AGAIN AT 330 PM.

THIS AFD PRODUCT WILL UPDATE AGAIN BETWEEN 330 PM AND 4 PM AS TIME AVAILS.

IF WE ISSUE WATCHES...THEY WILL POST BY 330 PM.

500 MB: A STRENGTHENING CLOSED LOW SHORT WAVE TUE EVENING IN CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN ILLINOIS MOVES TO NEAR NORFOLK VIRGINIA MIDDAY WEDNESDAY THEN SLOWLY NORTHEASTWARD TO NEAR THE BENCHMARK OF 40N/70W MIDDAY THURSDAY. THEREAFTER...IT WEAKENS SLOWLY SOUTHEASTWARD WITH RIDGING OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. COMPLICATIONS IN THE FLOW PATTERN DEVELOPS SUNDAY OVER THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES WITH THE 00Z/4 ECMWF TRYING TO CUT A STRONG SHORTWAVE SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH NEW ENGLAND. HOWEVER...IT ALL SMOOTHS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK AS ANOTHER CLOSED LOW SHORT WAVE MOVES EAST FROM THE PLAINS STATES.

HAZARDS:

TO PREFACE THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING... THE ECMWF HAS GENERALLY NOT BE STELLAR INSIDE OF DAY 5...SINCE THE SANDY EVENT FOR OUR AREA... AND IN MY OPINION...AT LEAST FOR THIS AREA...THE GFS AND ITS ENSEMBLES AS WELL AS THE SREF ARE BETTER PREDICTORS FOR OUR WEATHER. THAT SAID... I AM EXPECTING THE ECMWF TO TREND NORTH IN FUTURE CYCLES AND COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS REGARDING WHAT SHOULD BE A POWERFUL COASTAL STORM FOR OUR AREA AND the FORTUNE THAT ITS NOT STALLING A LITTLE CLOSER TO OUR COAST. THE 12Z UKMET HAS EDGED NORTH.

COASTAL FLOOD WATCH PROBABLE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY MORNING. CERTAINLY MINOR COASTAL FLOODING WILL OCCUR WITH A NORTHEAST SWELL WIND WAVE OF AT LEAST 10 TO 15 FEET. MORE DETAILS ARE IN THE TIDE SECTION.

HIGH WIND: DATA INCONSISTENTLY POINTS TO BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS AT TIMES EXCEEDING 40 KNOTS WEDNESDAY MIDDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT ALONG THE COASTS...MODELS FOCUSING ON DIFFERENT AREAS. EITHER VIA SUSTAINED (35 KTS) OR GUST (50KTS) WE THINK HIGH WIND HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF VERIFYING FOR A SHORT TIME WEDNESDAY.

 

Nice read.  Link

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=PHI&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off

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did you write that lol

Walt Drag
DRAG SPECIAL 12 PM AFD!!!

**POWERFUL SLOW SEAWARD MOVING COASTAL STORM IS THE PRIMARY INFLUENCE ON OUR WEATHER THE FIRST HALF OF THIS PERIOD**

THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH SOME OF OUR INTENT AND FORECAST UNCERTAINTIES. WE'LL UPDATE THAT PRODUCT AGAIN AT 330 PM.

THIS AFD PRODUCT WILL UPDATE AGAIN BETWEEN 330 PM AND 4 PM AS TIME AVAILS.

IF WE ISSUE WATCHES...THEY WILL POST BY 330 PM.

500 MB: A STRENGTHENING CLOSED LOW SHORT WAVE TUE EVENING IN CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN ILLINOIS MOVES TO NEAR NORFOLK VIRGINIA MIDDAY WEDNESDAY THEN SLOWLY NORTHEASTWARD TO NEAR THE BENCHMARK OF 40N/70W MIDDAY THURSDAY. THEREAFTER...IT WEAKENS SLOWLY SOUTHEASTWARD WITH RIDGING OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. COMPLICATIONS IN THE FLOW PATTERN DEVELOPS SUNDAY OVER THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES WITH THE 00Z/4 ECMWF TRYING TO CUT A STRONG SHORTWAVE SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH NEW ENGLAND. HOWEVER...IT ALL SMOOTHS OUT EARLY NEXT WEEK AS ANOTHER CLOSED LOW SHORT WAVE MOVES EAST FROM THE PLAINS STATES.

HAZARDS:

TO PREFACE THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING... THE ECMWF HAS GENERALLY NOT BE STELLAR INSIDE OF DAY 5...SINCE THE SANDY EVENT FOR OUR AREA... AND IN MY OPINION...AT LEAST FOR THIS AREA...THE GFS AND ITS ENSEMBLES AS WELL AS THE SREF ARE BETTER PREDICTORS FOR OUR WEATHER. THAT SAID... I AM EXPECTING THE ECMWF TO TREND NORTH IN FUTURE CYCLES AND COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS REGARDING WHAT SHOULD BE A POWERFUL COASTAL STORM FOR OUR AREA AND the FORTUNE THAT ITS NOT STALLING A LITTLE CLOSER TO OUR COAST. THE 12Z UKMET HAS EDGED NORTH.

COASTAL FLOOD WATCH PROBABLE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY MORNING. CERTAINLY MINOR COASTAL FLOODING WILL OCCUR WITH A NORTHEAST SWELL WIND WAVE OF AT LEAST 10 TO 15 FEET. MORE DETAILS ARE IN THE TIDE SECTION.

HIGH WIND: DATA INCONSISTENTLY POINTS TO BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS AT TIMES EXCEEDING 40 KNOTS WEDNESDAY MIDDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT ALONG THE COASTS...MODELS FOCUSING ON DIFFERENT AREAS. EITHER VIA SUSTAINED (35 KTS) OR GUST (50KTS) WE THINK HIGH WIND HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF VERIFYING FOR A SHORT TIME WEDNESDAY.

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