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March Med/Long Range Disco


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Yup. And we all know the "I won't get interested until 24 hours before!" stuff and the "bring on the 60's!!" stuff is all a lie. Let's not act like most here aren't still constantly hitting refresh on NCEP every 6 hours, checking the Euro, etc.

Neither lie nor act. Bring on the 70's! ;)

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Yup. And we all know the "I won't get interested until 24 hours before!" stuff and the "bring on the 60's!!" stuff is all a lie. Let's not act like most here aren't still constantly hitting refresh on NCEP every 6 hours, checking the Euro, etc.

 

 

Those hoping for 70F and flamingos/parrots migrating north this March aren't going to get it in this pattern over the next 10-14 days anyway....so you might as well root for the rare March snowstorm. The setup has a lot of similarities to past large March storms such as 1958.

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Yup. And we all know the "I won't get interested until 24 hours before!" stuff and the "bring on the 60's!!" stuff is all a lie. Let's not act like most here aren't still constantly hitting refresh on NCEP every 6 hours, checking the Euro, etc.

Potential high impact weather (any type) is fun as crap to keep an eye on from a scientific standpoint. Beautiful weather is quite boring scientifically but it's great to enjoy outdoors.

I loved yesterday. I made the most of it. But if there is something snow related or high impact within the realm of possibility I'm always all in.

I'm not the type to say "I'm over it, give me 60's and sun".Give me interesting weather and bookend it with boring nice weather.

One thing I'm always over is 95+ heat. I rooted for records last year just because it's a record. Being outside in that crap is disgusting. I can deal with 10 below and be comfortable in the right clothes. That's what sucks about raging humid heat. No clothes or nudity makes it enjoyable to be outside.

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Those hoping for 70F and flamingos/parrots migrating north this March aren't going to get it in this pattern over the next 10-14 days anyway....so you might as well root for the rare March snowstorm. The setup has a lot of similarities to past large March storms such as 1958.

Talk dirty to us Will.

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In response to Bob, we may be hitting the refresh button and the models may look promising. But we know, after this year, the odds are not in our favor. But I admire the spirit certainly. Not giving up, but also being circumspect, to put it mildly, is a healthy attitude.

That's precisely why it's interesting. Big nasty block and unusually cold air at a time when you need perfection to pull it off.

My expectations are right. I know it could easily be fools gold. On the flip side, if it does work out this time it becomes folklore. Something to talk about decades from now. Quite appealing even if unlikely.

If I had to put a number on it, imo dc stands a 20% chance at breaking the streak at a very unusual time.

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That's precisely why it's interesting. Big nasty block and unusually cold air at a time when you need perfection to pull it off.

My expectations are right. I know it could easily be fools gold. On the flip side, if it does work out this time it becomes folklore. Something to talk about decades from now. Quite appealing even if unlikely.

If I had to put a number on it, imo dc stands a 20% chance at breaking the streak at a very unusual time.

I think if we pulled anything off, it would go down as a fantastic story. You can't help but root for that!

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That's precisely why it's interesting. Big nasty block and unusually cold air at a time when you need perfection to pull it off.

My expectations are right. I know it could easily be fools gold. On the flip side, if it does work out this time it becomes folklore. Something to talk about decades from now. Quite appealing even if unlikely.

If I had to put a number on it, imo dc stands a 20% chance at breaking the streak at a very unusual time.

I don't know about DCA but your hood I totally agree.

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0z Euro and 6z GFS both have a little overrunning storm Sunday night/Monday morning. Temps look borderline (of course), but probably supportive of snow for DC and points north.  Big storm is a huge cutter on both.  Looks pretty darn cold after the cutter on both models.  

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Ok Bob and winterwxlvr, we may have to abandon the big storm play and hitch our wagon to overrunning. In March. During daylight. Lets reassess after 12z runs.

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Ok Bob and winterwxlvr, we may have to abandon the big storm play and hitch our wagon to overrunning. In March. During daylight. Lets reassess after 12z runs.

 

How a storm ends up cutting here is curious to me.  We are still a ways out on this, maybe we don't end up with what's being modeled right now.  At least a couple of gfs members still show something other than a cutter, even if they aren't big storms.

 

The Euro sure has been king of the big modeled snow storm this year.

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Ok Bob and winterwxlvr, we may have to abandon the big storm play and hitch our wagon to overrunning. In March. During daylight. Lets reassess after 12z runs.

The good news is the euro drops .4-.5 over dca and iad. The bad news is that even 850's aren't below freezing.

It's a shame that the couple of waves pre-big cutter can't amplify and go all 50-50 on us. They just slide out to sea keeping the flow to flat for the bigger storm. There's just nothing in the way.

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Ok Bob and winterwxlvr, we may have to abandon the big storm play and hitch our wagon to overrunning. In March. During daylight. Lets reassess after 12z runs.

The good news is the euro drops .4-.5 over dca and iad. The bad news is that even 850's aren't below freezing.

It's a shame that the couple of waves pre-big cutter can't amplify and go all 50-50 on us. They just slide out to sea keeping the flow to flat for the bigger storm. There's just nothing in the way.

Don't you bail on us now

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The good news is the euro drops .4-.5 over dca and iad. The bad news is that even 850's aren't below freezing.

It's a shame that the couple of waves pre-big cutter can't amplify and go all 50-50 on us. They just slide out to sea keeping the flow to flat for the bigger storm. There's just nothing in the way.

Weenie traitor.

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Don't you bail on us now

lol- just doing my daily hit and runs. Over running could work. Better if it was dark of course.

The problem with the cutter is there is just nothing to force it south enough. Flow in from the pac isn't good. No big western ridge. The waves in front don't re-inforce the closed ull. Still time though of course but h5 is getting better resolved at this point. Looks awful chilly down the line. I have a feeling we'll keep getting sucked in until April. At least the hunt isn't over for the year. We just haven't bagged any dinner yet.

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The inherent problem with the bigger storm is it's source. It's another ns system getting it's act together in the middle of the country. That has problems in the middle of january. We were relying on the uber block just bullying it underneath us. That's a tall task even though we had some good looks at it the last couple.

With the ebb and flow of the west coast ridge you would figure *eventually* somthing slips underneath and across the gulf coast. I'm more than a little surprised it hasn't happened in the last month. It's probably saving up for mid april. Remember Nov? A couple miller A's? Those were the last ones of any consequence. I remember "atmospheric memory" talk back in Nov. lol. I think we can put that to bed for good.

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How a storm ends up cutting here is curious to me.  We are still a ways out on this, maybe we don't end up with what's being modeled right now.  At least a couple of gfs members still show something other than a cutter, even if they aren't big storms.

 

The Euro sure has been king of the big modeled snow storm this year.

Not sure the cutter solution is correct. But we have seen these modeled blocking patterns end up being garbage at verification  Last time we had a block there was zero cold air anywhere close. If the blocking is west-based and real, hard to see the storm cutting. But we all know its not a (meteorological) impossibility.

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0z Euro and 6z GFS both have a little overrunning storm Sunday night/Monday morning. Temps look borderline (of course), but probably supportive of snow for DC and points north.  Big storm is a huge cutter on both.  Looks pretty darn cold after the cutter on both models.

 

Thank God for that.  Whatever would we do without late-March cold?

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