Bob Chill Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 It would only be a fitting way to end this crappy winter with a surprise 4" snow. It would be more fitting with a forecasted 4" with latest model guidance after the storm starts la la locked on 8-10" but nobody has the cajones to up their totals and then the storm fizzles with a dusting and forecasters are ran out of town by an angry mob of snow weenies. Or maybe we are la la locked at 4-6" but forecasters are so gunshy they go mostly rain mixed with a few flakes but it ends up being an 8-10" traffic stopping snow bomb and they get run out of town by an angry mob of warministas. This board will be on fire though so to bad for them and yay for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Its March, as long as its not storming, without an arctic air injection into the pattern even with blocking we will have hights easily into the 50's most days if it is sunny. So what if it's not 70 degrees, if its 56 and sunny that feels nice and is good enough to get out and do things. Lets not be wimps. if we could just kick this blasted wind i'd be fine with 50s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Not according to HM, but I guess you know better than him . Not saying anything is going to happen but there are still some slim chances which is better than we usually have around here this time of year. HM is certainly one of the best on the Board but even he can't fight mother nature and the lousy pattern this winter mother nature 10, Mid Atlantic 0 for this winter and I can't believe we don't get shut out the rest of what's left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 euro shows .17 @ mrb with sub 540 thickness, sub freezing 850's, and .9 surface @ 168. Snow would fall at night. IAD/JYO a little drier and warmer but close enough. Antecendent airmass on thurs is pretty cold with subfreezing lows and -10 850's. Wait till the vort comes in amped and surface low pops in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 euro shows .17 @ mrb with sub 540 thickness, sub freezing 850's, and .9 surface @ 168. Snow would fall at night. IAD/JYO a little drier and warmer but close enough. Antecendent airmass on thurs is pretty cold with subfreezing lows and -10 850's. Wait till the vort comes in amped and surface low pops in a few days. if there is anything that should be learned, it is we must take euro surface temps as being correct as proged any slight warm bias it may have can not be counted on to save us....it's either snow verbatim or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 euro shows .17 @ mrb with sub 540 thickness, sub freezing 850's, and .9 surface @ 168. Snow would fall at night. IAD/JYO a little drier and warmer but close enough. Antecendent airmass on thurs is pretty cold with subfreezing lows and -10 850's. Wait till the vort comes in amped and surface low pops in a few days. im about to cut your internet connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 im about to cut your internet connection I don't have euro clown maps. How they lookin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I don't have euro clown maps. How they lookin? 8-12* for all *flakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacindc Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 This is all just a con being run on people who haven't been here for a few days and have skipped right to the end of this thread, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needbiggerboat Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Latest "T" of snow at DCA was May 16, 1988...too soon to jump ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Mike Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Late season winter storm, here we come! It's going to happen. Mark my words. LOL. I'm off to Palm Springs. Plenty of snow at Mt. San Jacinto - I can take the tram up to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Latest "T" of snow at DCA was May 16, 1988...too soon to jump ship. 051700.png hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Latest "T" of snow at DCA was May 16, 1988...too soon to jump ship. 051700.png That's incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 That's incredible. to be clear in my previous short hand. it was t-storms on a mild day.it was coded as ice pellets. now it has its own distinction "GR" SPECI KDCA 162220Z 03020G31KT 1/4SM TSPL SCT002 OVC005 A2973 RMK R36VR14V26 T OVHD/ ALQDS MOVG SE FQT LTGCGIC AB10E14B19 HLSTO VSBY 3/16V5/16 PRESFR SLPNO 510/2 definitely a t-storm pattern in the maps.. vort max passing thru the lakes.. doesn't often work in winter for snow, definitely not in may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 to be clear in my previous short hand. it was t-storms on a mild day.it was coded as ice pellets. now it has its own distinction "GR" SPECI KDCA 162220Z 03020G31KT 1/4SM TSPL SCT002 OVC005 A2973 RMK R36VR14V26 T OVHD/ ALQDS MOVG SE FQT LTGCGIC AB10E14B19 HLSTO VSBY 3/16V5/16 PRESFR SLPNO 510/2 definitely a t-storm pattern in the maps.. vort max passing thru the lakes.. doesn't often work in winter for snow, definitely not in may. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense to me than snow on May 16 would. Maybe in the mountains, but even that would be an incredible thing at this latitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah, that makes a lot more sense to me than snow on May 16 would. Maybe in the mountains, but even that would be an incredible thing at this latitude. accum snow (0.1"+) prob best metric as hail gets coded as T snow in the record at least from time to time. these days getting anything in april is a monumental task.. we did used to get some here and there more than we have in the last few decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Euro at 240 shows a much colder snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 240 is perfect. Southern Storm...Cold High.....this is the one folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 240 is perfect. Southern Storm...Cold High.....this is the one folks. We have 2 threats inside of 11 days. An appetizer and a main course. all f'n in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 sfc is cold too.. and it's mainly at night. this is it baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 We have 2 threats inside of 11 days. An appetizer and a main course. all f'n in. people think I am joking but this looks like a good setup with a fresh 1035 high in canada working down. I got a few inches on Oct 27 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 ens mean says no .. but im willing to toss it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 sfc is cold too.. and it's mainly at night. this is it baby. CWG will call for a T to a dusting and we will get 5 inches and they will get demolished again after people get stuck on roads and school buses slide of bridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 ens mean says no .. but im willing to toss it euro mean always says no. Ignore it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 wait til the euro control comes out in 30 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 the ingredients have shown for 2-3 runs now. My joke hat is off for a second. Once we get past next week's rainer the pattern goes amplified again with an ec trough. I can't tell how the blocking looks (prob doesn't matter this far away) but it's not progressive or an easy west track. Airmass seem really cold for mid march and the source region is cold. NS is active prior. Prob gonna need some sort of stream phase to pull it off and it's like half a century in the future but the whole period is at the very least worth watching. ok, joke hat back on. What do the d11-12 clown maps and control run look like? There could be another threat on the heels too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ2 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah, that makes a lot more sense to me than snow on May 16 would. Maybe in the mountains, but even that would be an incredible thing at this latitude. My mom has always insisted it snowed in NOVA on May 1 1963. That was last day of her job where she was given a party prior to my birth two months later. Any way to confirm that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlanticweather Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 We have 2 threats inside of 11 days. An appetizer and a main course. all f'n in. I have some ocean front property in Arizona! You want in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 My mom has always insisted it snowed in NOVA on May 1 1963. That was last day of her job where she was given a party prior to my birth two months later. Any way to confirm that? Quite possible, here were the high/lows and precip in areas: LGA: 57/39 0.1 PHL: 57/35 T (snow) BWI: 52/37 T (snow) DCA: 52/41 T (snow) IAD: 48/39 T (snow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needbiggerboat Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 hail That's pathetic on my part...apologies and thanks for setting that straight. Might have helped if I looked at the temps for the day....82/60 There was a T on May 1, 1963....Low temp was 41 and departure was -16, so maybe that one was legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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