MJO812 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 JB in his latest update video this morning still likes the mid to late December for a change to colder weather. The models are starting to show that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 JB in his latest update video this morning still likes the mid to late December for a change to colder weather. The models are starting to show that.He also liked the end of November for cold and snow 4 weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 He also liked the end of November for cold and snow 4 weeks ago yeah, that was modeled for awhile and while it is colder now, it's simply back to average give or take...nothing notable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 He also liked the end of November for cold and snow 4 weeks ago There are signs of colder weather by mid December . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 There are signs of colder weather by mid December . If he busts can we stop hearing about his forecasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 There are signs of colder weather by mid December . Anthony , HE DID NOT SAY COLDER BY MID MONTH . He said the pattern is starting to head to where the higher heights look to pull N by day 15 , but that is not a pattern change . He says the mid month trough is progressive , He is AN for Dec and N for Jan . He is not cold by mid month AT ALL . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Anthony , HE DID NOT SAY COLDER BY MID MONTH . He said the pattern is starting to head to where the higher heights look to pull N by day 15 , but that is not a pattern change . He says the mid month trough is progressive , He is AN for Dec and N for Jan . He is not cold by mid month AT ALL . But.. but the gfs has one cold day on the 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_2 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 But.. but the gfs has one cold day on the 16th lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Anthony , HE DID NOT SAY COLDER BY MID MONTH . He said the pattern is starting to head to where the higher heights look to pull N by day 15 , but that is not a pattern change . He says the mid month trough is progressive , He is AN for Dec and N for Jan . He is not cold by mid month AT ALL . I guess we heard differently. He did say that a change is coming mid month. I could possibly have weenie ears and only hear weenie voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 But.. but the gfs has one cold day on the 16thI don't know if you remember the 2011-2012 winter, but the models kept showing a cold pattern developing beyond day 11 that entire winter from the end of November right through March. That cold pattern never came of course, it just stayed beyond day 11 and never moved forward in time. We kept hearing about major pattern changes coming and sudden stratospheric warmings that never happened that whole winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't know if you remember the 2011-2012 winter, but the models kept showing a cold pattern developing beyond day 11 that entire winter from the end of November right through March. That cold pattern never came of course, it just stayed beyond day 11 and never moved forward in time. We kept hearing about major pattern changes coming and sudden stratospheric warmings that never happened that whole winter Yeah I definitely remember the lack of winter on the models around Christmas but many people were jumping ship by that point. We had that one moderate snowfall in late January and then basically spring arrived shortly thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionWeatherWx Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't know if you remember the 2011-2012 winter, but the models kept showing a cold pattern developing beyond day 11 that entire winter from the end of November right through March. That cold pattern never came of course, it just stayed beyond day 11 and never moved forward in time. We kept hearing about major pattern changes coming and sudden stratospheric warmings that never happened that whole winter If I recall, didn't we have a positive PDO, EPO pattern that winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionWeatherWx Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't know if you remember the 2011-2012 winter, but the models kept showing a cold pattern developing beyond day 11 that entire winter from the end of November right through March. That cold pattern never came of course, it just stayed beyond day 11 and never moved forward in time. We kept hearing about major pattern changes coming and sudden stratospheric warmings that never happened that whole winter The winter of promises, but nothing to show up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I guess we heard differently. He did say that a change is coming mid month. I could possibly have weenie ears and only hear weenie voices. This is a likely scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't know if you remember the 2011-2012 winter, but the models kept showing a cold pattern developing beyond day 11 that entire winter from the end of November right through March. That cold pattern never came of course, it just stayed beyond day 11 and never moved forward in time. We kept hearing about major pattern changes coming and sudden stratospheric warmings that never happened that whole winter That's my fear with this winter. While I'm still confident we'll have a productive back loaded winter, these strong nino events always make me nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 That's my fear with this winter. While I'm still confident we'll have a productive back loaded winter, these strong nino events always make me nervous. I fear a 94-95 repeat. One storm to salvage the winter from being a disaster but very boring overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I don't know if you remember the 2011-2012 winter, but the models kept showing a cold pattern developing beyond day 11 that entire winter from the end of November right through March. That cold pattern never came of course, it just stayed beyond day 11 and never moved forward in time. We kept hearing about major pattern changes coming and sudden stratospheric warmings that never happened that whole winter both 01-02 and 11-12 were like that. And when we got the trough, it cooled things to normal-no cold air anywhere on our side of the globe both winters. (and few storms) Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I fear a 94-95 repeat. One storm to salvage the winter from being a disaster but very boring overall. I think there will be more then one storm but we could be looking at only a few weeks of actual winter. But there should be allot of melt between events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 both 01-02 and 11-12 were like that. And when we got the trough, it cooled things to normal-no cold air anywhere on our side of the globe both winters. (and few storms) Just awful.There was one legit arctic shot in 11/12. Temps in the low teens. 97/98 had a low of 19 for the entire winter!!! That's just nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 DT's Winter Forecast is out. He is calling for above normal temps in December, below normal temps in Jan and February. He said most of the winter weather for the east will occur in February - April. Here it is. https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=1CA2F9A16D1A6375!280&ithint=file%2cpptx&app=PowerPoint&authkey=!AOSv7HIr2qlPss8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 DT's Winter Forecast is out. He is calling for above normal temps in December, below normal temps in Jan and February. He said most of the winter weather for the east will occur in February - April. Here it is. https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=1CA2F9A16D1A6375!280&ithint=file%2cpptx&app=PowerPoint&authkey=!AOSv7HIr2qlPss8 I'm a poor speller myself but does this guy proofread? Wow. Other then that I like it. Right in line with my personal thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ...joe cioffi's latest long range "joestradamous" is not good..seems to be throwing in the towel for any sort of change for the whole month of december and possibly into january.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ...joe cioffi's latest long range "joestradamous" is not good..seems to be throwing in the towel for any sort of change for the whole month of december and possibly into january.. Yeah I said the same thing December is a lost except for maybe a renegade snowfall. January is where things change for the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Yeah I said the same thing December is a lost except for maybe a renegade snowfall. January is where things change for the better After a bottom of the well disasterous December, things can only go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 After a bottom of the well disasterous December, things can only go up. Here's hoping. At least it felt wintry this morning -- brisk with some ice on the car. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 After a bottom of the well disasterous December, things can only go up. Local ski areas must be a bit nervous. Going to be tough to open by Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Mike Ventrice tweeted an image of the CFSv2 January forecast. It ain't pretty. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Mike Ventrice tweeted an image of the CFSv2 January forecast. It ain't pretty. Sent from my iPad When was the last time the CFS was right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 When was the last time the CFS was right? December . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 December . It still shouldn't be used. It flip flops more than a fish out of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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