NorthShoreWx Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 At the cooperative station in Centerport on Long Island (Vanderbilt Museum)...the actual report had written on it "no measurement due to snow" after the Blizzard of '78. I found the referenced data sheet from March 2001 (not 78): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Anybody know what JB is thinking about Thursday and the late weekend system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Anybody know what JB is thinking about Thursday and the late weekend system?Im gonna go out on a limb and say JB thinks it's going to snow. He thinks every storm from October through April is going to be snow in the east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Im gonna go out on a limb and say JB thinks it's going to snow. He thinks every storm from October through April is going to be snow in the east According to him we are headed into the next ice age so yeah snow snow and more snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Im gonna go out on a limb and say JB thinks it's going to snow. He thinks every storm from October through April is going to be snow in the east Would love to hear him says for once "storm going out to sea, then historic warmth and dry moves in!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 According to him we are headed into the next ice age so yeah snow snow and more snow he's starting to change his tune on that one....says next 3 of 5 winters will be warm and an 11-12 redux is on the table. (Swear to God, he said that. Almost fell out of my chair) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 he's starting to change his tune on that one....says next 3 of 5 winters will be warm and an 11-12 redux is on the table. (Swear to God, he said that. Almost fell out of my chair) Wow I gotta say in shocked. I used to follow him during the accuweather days. And he's right we will have another 11/12. Things are just much more extreme these days hence this month. I fully expect a warm winter soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Wow I gotta say in shocked. I used to follow him during the accuweather days. And he's right we will have another 11/12. Things are just much more extreme these days hence this month. I fully expect a warm winter soon You're right, but I still say YUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I asked the question in the March thread, but joe cioffi and DT agrees, thinks the -EPO loss is only temporary and we go back into a -EPO/-WPO pattern come the 2nd/3rd week of March. However, he expects a -PNA (pretty clear that happens) and a continuation of +NAO/+AO. I honestly don't know what such a pattern would yield once into March, I think it's going to be real interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 he's starting to change his tune on that one....says next 3 of 5 winters will be warm and an 11-12 redux is on the table. (Swear to God, he said that. Almost fell out of my chair) I don't know about that. If that PDO pattern persists we're constantly going to see a -EPO. It's what will intensify the SW drought and possibly punish us with more cold and snow even as the globe continues to warm. I think we may be locked in this pattern for a while as it really hasn't changed since last year. What will be interesting is if we set new low arctic sea ice records and global records this year, and how that will play a role in our weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I asked the question in the March thread, but joe cioffi and DT agrees, thinks the -EPO loss is only temporary and we go back into a -EPO/-WPO pattern come the 2nd/3rd week of March. However, he expects a -PNA (pretty clear that happens) and a continuation of +NAO/+AO. I honestly don't know what such a pattern would yield once into March, I think it's going to be real interesting my hunch is that you would see a bunch of cutters in that pattern....cold, warm up and rain, then cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 my hunch is that you would see a bunch of cutters in that pattern....cold, warm up and rain, then cold. Sounds like a pretty typical March: schizophrenic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I asked the question in the March thread, but joe cioffi and DT agrees, thinks the -EPO loss is only temporary and we go back into a -EPO/-WPO pattern come the 2nd/3rd week of March. However, he expects a -PNA (pretty clear that happens) and a continuation of +NAO/+AO. I honestly don't know what such a pattern would yield once into March, I think it's going to be real interesting With the wave lengths shortening, the PNA+ and AO- become much less important in March. For example, with respect to NYC's 6" or greater snowstorms in March: - AO-: 55% - AO+: 45% - PNA+: 36% - PNA-: 64% Most common combination: AO+/PNA-: 36% 2nd most common combination: AO-/PNA- and AO-/PNA+ 27% each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 No way it's going to reach 60 1934 got up to 63 degrees during the first week in March...the second week had snow and cold but not as cold as February lows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 With the wave lengths shortening, the PNA+ and AO- become much less important in March. For example, with respect to NYC's 6" or greater snowstorms in March: - AO-: 55% - AO+: 45% - PNA+: 36% - PNA-: 64% Most common combination: AO+/PNA-: 36% 2nd most common combination: AO-/PNA- and AO-/PNA+ 27% each. I was wondering about how that plays out in March. So I guess it really doesn't matter anymore if the PNA is negative or AO positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 With the wave lengths shortening, the PNA+ and AO- become much less important in March. For example, with respect to NYC's 6" or greater snowstorms in March: - AO-: 55% - AO+: 45% - PNA+: 36% - PNA-: 64% Most common combination: AO+/PNA-: 36% 2nd most common combination: AO-/PNA- and AO-/PNA+ 27% each. Thanks Don. Just out of curiosity, if we were to see a -EPO/-WPO, along with a -PNA and +AO/+NAO, what results does that yield? It seems like we are headed for that after a temporary relaxation of the -EPO, the +PDO just won't let it quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 JB thinks the end of the week wave will travel up the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 JB thinks the end of the week wave will travel up the coast.Of course he thinks that. He won't get off the "every storm means snow for the east coast" bandwagon until April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 JB thinks the end of the week wave will travel up the coast. Well, one of these times he's bound to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 This morning's tweet about March from DT: image.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 JB thinks the end of the week wave will travel up the coast. Maybe he will be right this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Maybe he will be right this time JB was right when he said February will be very cold like 1934... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophstymeo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Maybe he will be right this time Great weenies think alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 JB thinks the end of the week wave will travel up the coast. Which one, the Thursday gulf storm, or the weaker one after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Looks like Joe Cioffi has changed his opinion on the Monday "warm up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Right after the euro ensembles came out DT posted a new status on his facebook wxrisk page. I guess he's not buying at all that this current pattern is going to continue through March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Right after the euro ensembles came out DT posted a new status on his facebook wxrisk page. I guess he's not buying at all that this current pattern is going to continue through March Interesting to know why he thinks so, but his forecasts have not been exactly dead on this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Interesting to know why he thinks so, but his forecasts have not been exactly dead on this winter.He will be explaining in detail in his 3 week forecast at 9 tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Right after the euro ensembles came out DT posted a new status on his facebook wxrisk page. I guess he's not buying at all that this current pattern is going to continue through March rough year for him-he goes cold and snowy, then cancels it right before the historic stretch of cold and snow came 1/24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 rough year for him-he goes cold and snowy, then cancels it right before the historic stretch of cold and snow came 1/24.He dead set on 3/15 on becoming mild, we shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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