superjames1992 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 It does transfer but it's not like it hits the NE or the MA like a Miller B typically would. Just kind of pushes east and then out to sea. Ah, okay. Sounds good. Thanks for the info, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The free 24 hr panels seemed to indicate a Miller Bish solution with the inland low transfering off the coast of SAV. Was this not the case? It does transfer, it looks very simliar to the GGEM but it doesn't wrap up and hug the coast like the GGEM, it get's kicked out to sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Hasn't the Euro caved to the GFS a lot this winter? Hope this one is the other way around. I'd rather have snow if it's going to be cold and wet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 This is for you Brick.... WxSouth Long Lived neg. AO pattern finally does dirty work. 2 big snowstorms on Euro back to back some areas. #tnwx #ncwx #vawx #kywx #springcancel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 This is for you Brick.... WxSouth Long Lived neg. AO pattern finally does dirty work. 2 big snowstorms on Euro back to back some areas. #tnwx #ncwx #vawx #kywx #springcancel Sure enough...the Euro has a Day 10 storm as well, only this one goes west of the Apps which could introduce some severe potential for Carolinas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 You must be blind in regards to the foothills...maybe a foot for Avery, Watauga and Ashe Counties. Maybe 3-6 for Surry, Wilkes, Caldwell and in the northern mountains from Mitchell to Madison. Hard to tell but other frames appear to cover Wilkes, Alleghany, and Surry. Think we would be included...currently meeting ice storm warning criteria in Alleghany County, NC and there is not even a special weather statement out right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Think we would be included...currently meeting ice storm warning criteria in Alleghany County, NC and there is not even a special weather statement out right now. Uh...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Uh...what? A current look at the radar indicates they could indeed see some icy glaze on a few leaves in the tree tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion_NC_WX Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 A current look at the radar indicates they could indeed see some icy glaze on a few leaves in the tree tops. Nevermind, I just saw the pic he posted on the obs thread...don't see that too often in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The Euro drops .25 inch of liquid imby on Friday morning with 850's at -3C and the Surface temp below freezing. There's a sharp cutoff in precip where it looks like NC won't say anything: however, N. Ga and extreme Western SC might get luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Euro ENS is closer to the coast at day 7, looks just as far south as the OP at day 6 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Yikes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The Euro drops .25 inch of liquid imby on Friday morning with 850's at -3C and the Surface temp below freezing. There's a sharp cutoff in precip where it looks like NC won't say anything: however, N. Ga and extreme Western SC might get luck 12z CMC also sneaks in a little wintry precip in this timeframe into TN, far NE GA, NW SC, NC Mtns. This was originally the timeframe to watch with decent cold air in place and precip streaming ESE out of Kansas and Oklahoma off a weak southern plains wave. The wave is weakening as it treks east, but is something to watch as I think the cold air support will be much more in question with the next bigger system on Sun/Mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirNelson39 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Eric Thomas - "May, may see a little ice north of Charlotte Sunday morning." Typical 5-6 day out forecast for him. Aren't most models showing this as a rain or snow deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Eric Thomas - "May, may see a little ice north of Charlotte Sunday morning." Typical 5-6 day out forecast for him. Aren't most models showing this as a rain or snow deal? Fwiw, the 12Z CMC implies imo an IP/ZR threat for N GA CAD areas on Sun. 3/24 due to nice wedging and 850's only in the 0-5 C range there. Per the 12Z CMC and Euro, the most likely threat to Charlotte is snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The 18z GFS just showed a Lakes Cutter. EDIT: Transfers to the coast off of New Jersey and nails the PA, NY, and the Northeast. LOL. Boston gets well over a foot of snow. That has to be one of the most convoluted solutions I've ever seen. Such a strange transfer in the Midwest and then to the NJ coast. I don't even know what to say other than it's probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The 18z GFS just showed a Lakes Cutter. EDIT: Transfers to the coast off of New Jersey and nails the PA, NY, and the Northeast. LOL. Boston gets well over a foot of snow. it only changed about 500 miles with the upper energy compared to 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The 18z GFS just showed a Lakes Cutter. EDIT: Transfers to the coast off of New Jersey and nails the PA, NY, and the Northeast. LOL. Boston gets well over a foot of snow. That has to be one of the most convoluted solutions I've ever seen. Such a strange transfer in the Midwest and then to the NJ coast. I don't even know what to say other than it's probably wrong. So the GFS and Euro are pretty much total opposites right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 it only changed about 500 miles with the upper energy compared to 12z. LOL, yep. Plus, the surface low transfers from Illinois to Ohio and then to off the NJ/MD coastline. Two transfers? Is that even possible? Should we call that a Miller C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Guys, Larry (GaWx) started a thread for our upcoming threat: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39747-march-22-26-winter-storm-threats-best-se-opportunities-of-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 CPC isn't giving up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 CPC isn't giving up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 CPC isn't giving up: 610temp.new.gif Unless it brings snow with it, I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Everybody is focused on the upcoming winter storm potential. It's looking like that may not materialize (for most low elevation SE), but we are still looking at some impressive cold. 12z GFS at day 6: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Damn Groundhog was (will be) wrong. 12z GFS at dat 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelJ Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Brick. Who cares about cold unless there is some wintry precipitation attached. If we would have been this far below normal(or even normal for that matter) in Dec. and Jan. then we would have had a shot but late March and early April, all it does is harm the budding plants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Brick. Who cares about cold unless there is some wintry precipitation attached. If we would have been this far below normal(or even normal for that matter) in Dec. and Jan. then we would have had a shot but late March and early April, all it does is harm the budding plants I care. I'm definitely liking the cold, whether there's wintry precip or not. Not everyone feels the same way as you. That being said, I don't take offense that you don't like it cold and dry. It is a matter of personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I care. I'm definitely liking the cold, whether there's wintry precip or not. I'm OK with it too Larry, although I am starting to get Spring Fever. I just don't want oppressive heat like we had last year. I'm over the heat. And at least we have a few interesting things to track, it's better than warm and dry IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Damn Groundhog was (will be) wrong. 12z GFS at dat 15. Looks to be setting up nicely for our upcoming April Fool's Blizzard! Haha, just kidding. As far as the "cold" this March; let's be honest. How cold is it really? Sure, it's strongly negative departures for normal, but we're talking about highs in the 50s and lows in the 20s/30s, which is warmer than our mid-January temperatures. And with full sunshine, a high of 50 this time of year feels pretty warm, even if it's a -12 departure from our average (here at the moment it is 62/40). I just don't understand all the complaints about it. It feels pretty nice to me. You can have your 90s and high humidity all summer. I'll enjoy my 50s while I can. With that being said, the cold this March has been impressive. It would be nice to pull out a wintry event from it, but even so it's one of the better Marches in recent memory. Even 2009 and 2010 torched after our initial winter storms during the first few days of the month, IIRC. Tomorrow's cold looks impressive. We may not get out of the upper 30s under full sunshine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Looks to be setting up nicely for our upcoming April Fool's Blizzard! Haha, just kidding. As far as the "cold" this March; let's be honest. How cold is it really? Sure, it's strongly negative departures for normal, but we're talking about highs in the 50s and lows in the 20s/30s, which is warmer than our mid-January temperatures. And with full sunshine, a high of 50 this time of year feels pretty warm, even if it's a -12 departure from our average (here at the moment it is 62/40). I just don't understand all the complaints about it. It feels pretty nice to me. You can have your 90s and high humidity all summer. I'll enjoy my 50s while I can. With that being said, the cold this March has been impressive. It would be nice to pull out a wintry event from it, but even so it's one of the better Marches in recent memory. Even 2009 and 2010 torched after our initial winter storms during the first few days of the month, IIRC. Tomorrow's cold looks impressive. We may not get out of the upper 30s under full sunshine! That's my problem with it, it's not impressive in any way, doesn't really do anything other than make me wear a jacket in the morning. No, I'm not looking for 90s heat either, but I'm ready to enjoy a nice upper 60s/low 70s spring about now, where I can open the windows in the car/house. This ultra blocking/below normal just makes things uncomfortable for nothing IMO. Add rain to that equation and it's just blah...no offense Cold Rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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