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Never say never....

 

http://www.glenallenweather.com/links/snowmaps/1983/SE%20snowstorm%20mar24-25,%201983.pdf'>http://www.glenallenweather.com/links/snowmaps/1983/SE%20snowstorm%20mar24-25,%201983.pdf

 

Was the second time in my life I had seen lightning and thunder in a snowstorm, first was March 1980.

I think ATL got pounded by that storm with about 8 inches.

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I think ATL got pounded by that storm with about 8 inches.

Yeah in fact its one of ATL all time storms I think, it was crazy here I remember it being nighttime here with lightning and snow; also seemed to be over rather quick like it started right before dark and it was clear and cold in the morning . But I could be thinking of a different time I was only 11. 

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I did. Still sticking with what I said. Things look well. I would not be surprised to see the heavier snow rates shift a little further south by Wednesday. Still think we get at least 6 inches of snow.

 

I really think you (Raleigh) can cash in but...saying at least 6 inches of snow on a 5 day storm is setting the bar high man. Good-luck maybe you will get more.

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I think ATL got pounded by that storm with about 8 inches.

 

KATL got 8" on 3/24/1983 (heaviest snow since the 8-10" 1/1940 snow) and 2.7" on 3/2/1980.

 

Edit:  My three year record of not seeing s single flake or pellet is still intact. I saw none last night or this morning in Dunwoody.

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KATL got 8" on 3/24/1983 (heaviest snow since the 8-10" 1/1940 snow) and 2.7" on 3/2/1980.

 

Edit:  My three year record of not seeing s single flake or pellet is still intact. I saw none last night or this morning in Dunwoody.

It's up in Tennessee..I see in on radar, but those folks are snatching every flake :)  I keep hearing sleet when I go outside, but it isn't there.  Four or five bad winters and I'm going insane.  Haven't had anything by paultry mange snow since the last big spring ULL...hearing things, I want to hear...and now I see Zombies in the woods...and rabid, snarling possessed girl scouts with their heads spinning.  Heart beating too fast....every thing swirling..... closing into black.......arrrrggggghhhhhhh.............

  Meanwhile, do we trust.... the weeklies, and climo... that it will be cold, or trust Goofy who said it would snow today....just didn't actually say it would snow on you and me particularly...and now shows a less than exciting look?  T

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KATL got 8" on 3/24/1983 (heaviest snow since the 8-10" 1/1940 snow) and 2.7" on 3/2/1980.

Edit: My three year record of not seeing s single flake or pellet is still intact. I saw none last night or this morning in Dunwoody.

Holy cow! Not 15 minutes after I posted the above did I see a snow flurry! Alert the media lol. First flakes seen falling since 3/10. Tks to the moles!
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Holy cow! Not 15 minutes after I posted the above did I see a snow flurry! Alert the media lol. First flakes seen falling since 3/10. Tks to the moles!

Yeah I've been seeing flurries off and on all day around Dunwoody. The little shower a few minutes ago was the best one I've seen today.

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CRITICAL WEATHER DAY STATUS...

CWD WILL PROBABLY BE PUT IN PLACE LATER TODAY.. AFTER THE 12Z
MODEL RUNS AND COORDINATION/DISCUSSIONS ARE CONDUCTED.. DUE TO
THE DEVELOPING WINTER STORM EXPECTED TO IMPACT AREAS OF CENTRAL
AND EASTERN REGION DURING THE NEXT 4-5 DAYS. MORE
TO COME ON CWD ISSUANCE AFTER THE 12Z MODEL RUNS ARE COMPLETE.
THE CWD WILL INSURE A MORE RELIABLE FLOW OF DATA AND MODEL OUTPUT
TO NWS AND NCEP CENTERS.. DURING THIS WINTER STORM EVENT.


NEWBY/SDM/NCO/NCEP

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Well that is a short way to put it.

Blacksburg

Long term /Thursday through Saturday/...

winter appears to be over as a closed low drops into The Four

Corners region which pumps up heights back east. 850 mb temperatures rise to

near +10c by the end of the weekend with abundant dry air and

sunshine...thus no precipitation.

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Well that is a short way to put it. 

Blacksburg
Long term /Thursday through Saturday/... 
winter appears to be over as a closed low drops into The Four 
Corners region which pumps up heights back east. 850 mb temperatures rise to 
near +10c by the end of the weekend with abundant dry air and 
sunshine...thus no precipitation. 

Boy they have been accurate this year

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Well that is a short way to put it. BlacksburgLong term /Thursday through Saturday/... winter appears to be over 

OHX thinks we go cool again next week:

 

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN

626 PM CST SUN MAR 3 2013

. FOR NEXT WEEK...PROJECTIONS

INDICATE WE WILL SLIP BACK INTO A COOL AND UNSETTLED PATTERN.

 

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Well that is a short way to put it. BlacksburgLong term /Thursday through Saturday/... winter appears to be over as a closed low drops into The Four Corners region which pumps up heights back east. 850 mb temperatures rise to near +10c by the end of the weekend with abundant dry air and sunshine...thus no precipitation. 

 

The long range on the 18z GFS doesn't look all that warm to me.

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 Don't look now and don't laugh, but there is very cold air lurking nearby around midmonth per the 12Z Goofy and several recent GFS runs. I fully recognize the GFS cold bias, but those same analogs that suggested a cold start to March also suggest the potential of a second cold period near midmonth.

 

 Here is a link to the thread I started on 1/1 regarding the warm early winter analogs that suggested a good chance for a chilly March (note that several of the highlighted dates are in mid-March):

 

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38633-rest-of-se-winter-best-by-far-yet-to-come-per-warm-decjan-analogs/

 

Regarding those calling winter over after this week: you may want to hold back for now and see what develops over the next two weeks or so. Look what just has occurred...coldest five day period in many cases, first wintry precip. for some....which was suggested as a good chance to occur by these same analogs. Also, with good blocking quite possibly expected to persist, this period definitely does need to be monitored for the realisitc possibility of more wintry wx.

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 Don't look now and don't laugh, but there is very cold air lurking nearby around midmonth per the 12Z Goofy and several recent GFS runs. I fully recognize the GFS cold bias, but those same analogs that suggested a cold start to March also suggest the potential of a second cold period near midmonth.

 

 Here is a link to the thread I started on 1/1 regarding the warm early winter analogs that suggested a good chance for a chilly March (note that several of the highlighted dates are in mid-March):

 

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38633-rest-of-se-winter-best-by-far-yet-to-come-per-warm-decjan-analogs/

 

Regarding those calling winter over after this week: you may want to hold back for now and see what develops over the next two weeks or so. Look what just has occurred...coldest five day period in many cases, first wintry precip. for some....which was suggested as a good chance to occur by these same analogs. Also, with good blocking quite possibly expected to persist, this period definitely does need to be monitored for more wintry wx.

 

I think you've relieved your burden of proof regarding March so far.  So your above post should be earnestly considered in my opinion.

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 Don't look now and don't laugh, but there is very cold air lurking nearby around midmonth per the 12Z Goofy and several recent GFS runs. I fully recognize the GFS cold bias, but those same analogs that suggested a cold start to March also suggest the potential of a second cold period near midmonth.

 

 Here is a link to the thread I started on 1/1 regarding the warm early winter analogs that suggested a good chance for a chilly March (note that several of the highlighted dates are in mid-March):

 

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38633-rest-of-se-winter-best-by-far-yet-to-come-per-warm-decjan-analogs/

 

Regarding those calling winter over after this week: you may want to hold back for now and see what develops over the next two weeks or so. Look what just has occurred...coldest five day period in many cases, first wintry precip. for some....which was suggested as a good chance to occur by these same analogs. Also, with good blocking quite possibly expected to persist, this period definitely does need to be monitored for the realisitc possibility of more wintry wx.

 

I'm hoping winter is done. I don't want to go through what we just went throguh with the current system again.

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What do you guys think about the GFS today at day 12? Not in details but the general idea of a cold pattern.

gfs_namer_288_850_temp_mslp_precip.gif

>I think if it's gonna be cold and dry, it might as well be warm. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.....

 

I hear you; some nice warm days sound good.....just hate thinking about the heat and humidity that's coming after that.

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What do you guys think about the GFS today at day 12? Not in details but the general idea of a cold pattern.

gfs_namer_288_850_temp_mslp_precip.gif

>I think if it's gonna be cold and dry, it might as well be warm. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.....

I hear you; some nice warm days sound good.....just hate thinking about the heat and humidity that's coming after that.

I'm just messing around and saving Brick the trouble of having to type anything.

I would prefer it to be cold, whether it's snowy or not.

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Looks chilly in the mid to lr. Certainly seasonal, not torch.

Fits with Larry's analogues. I'll be the first to admit that I was very skeptical about what he presented, using analogues. But he's been pretty spot on, and so I stand very corrected.

And yeah, it does look chilly. Probably not going to result in a widespread winter storm for us, but chilly nonetheless.

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