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March Pattern and Discussion


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Saw WXBell maps. They look closer to reality. I guess it could be possible you get snow on the very back side as it wraps up deeply.

 

I'm defnitely not expecting much of anything Wintry here in the Midlands of SC.

In the past, we have done okay in March, but I don't think this track will cut it.  Within 5 days or less now, so becomming obvious that this will be NC northward.

 

Robert said he thought the synoptics were incorrect for Eastern NC/VA and it would be colder basically.

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Partials look marginal at best. We would be looking at rate driven slop (probably 5:1) and any slacking off intensity would mean people could switch back to rain and/or a rain/snow mix (see the 1/17 bust in portions of the triangle).

 

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Meteogram website printing out ~5 inches from 00Z GFS for KHKY.  A continued step up from 12Z to 18Z to 00Z.  Nice.

Using the same datasource it has KCAE with 3.0 of snow from 18z and 0.0 from 00z.  I'm almost positive the snow won't happen for us.  The thermals on that 00z GFS may be an issue also for a lot more.  Hopefully not. (edit, eyewall beat me to it!)

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Well now, if the Euro would move this thing back to the 12z yesterday with it's midnight run...we could be back onto something for NC/SC/N. Ga

 

Back on?  Are you saying that the Euro is the model that will bring those areas back into a possible snow storm (they haven't actually been out of the picture for 2 days now)?  

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Back on?  Are you saying that the Euro is the model that will bring those areas back into a possible snow storm (they haven't actually been out of the picture for 2 days now)?  

 

The upstate of SC seems to fare much better than here with this possibly with the right amount of moisture I hope..  BTW, thanks for the posts earlier correcting my comments about relying on a phase.  I do now agree (i was sloppy posting last night) that the ULL is important in this scenario as you stated.

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The upstate of SC seems to fare much better with this possibly.  BTW, thanks for the posts earlier correcting my comments about relying on a phase.  I do now agree (i was sloppy posting last night) that the ULL is important in this scenario as you stated.

 

Technically, I didn't quite express it properly myself.  

 

I'd say NE GA, Upstate SC to CLT have been the most consistently shown spots for something.  Which makes me really suspicious to be honest.  There will be a fine line between people who have to go to work, and people who get to stay home with this.  I utterly love/hate ULL tracking.

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I'm sorry, but you're going to have to join Cold Rain and I in "Boundary Layer Time Out."

Partials look marginal at best. We would be looking at rate driven slop (probably 5:1) and any slacking off intensity would mean people could switch back to rain and/or a rain/snow mix (see the 1/17 bust in portions of the triangle).

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I'm sorry, but you're going to have to join Cold Rain and I in "Boundary Layer Time Out."

 

Mmmmm - B.L.T.....gurgle gurgle gurgle.....

 

I'll concede this Skip - if I am still under the gun come Monday evening, I will be legitimately concerned with my temp profile.  The January ULL burned me with those 925's.

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I know everybody is focused on next week, but the latest RAP is really jack potting the upstate this morning.  If we can wetbulb enough to get snow to stick I’m starting to think somebody could get 2 or 3 inches out of this by 10am tomorrow morning.

 

This run gives mby over 3/10’s liquid; it’ll be interesting to see how close it comes to verifying...

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Technically, I didn't quite express it properly myself.  

 

I'd say NE GA, Upstate SC to CLT have been the most consistently shown spots for something.  Which makes me really suspicious to be honest.  There will be a fine line between people who have to go to work, and people who get to stay home with this.  I utterly love/hate ULL tracking.

 

50 miles shift can make or break the deal certainly.  This event this weekend may give you guys a little something in the Upstate.  I think the warm layer about 2000 feet thick will keep it liquid through the event in KCAE besides a couple wet flakes or sleet pellets.  Hell, I think that would be the most we could get with the system we are speaking of now.  I was glued to the models when that ULL tracked through here back in January and nothing but rain ofcourse.  I already know just from tracking that ULL, that it's a headache and I don't envy it for a lot of forecasters who have to publically make forecasts.

 

I figure if I stay pessimistic, if something does fall from the sky in the Midlands that's Wintry, I will be happier than getting let down of course.  March has produced some decent events here, but this doesn't look like the one sadly. 

 

Also guys, if anyone wants to look at some analogs for areas of the United States based on current model runs to compare patterns/setups to, this site right here is amazing:

http://www.eas.slu.edu/CIPS/ANALOG/analog.php

 

Also, does anyone have the super ensemble link that lists the analogs of current/future storms?

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I know everybody is focused on next week, but the latest RAP is really jack potting the upstate this morning.  If we can wetbulb enough to get snow to stick I’m starting to think somebody could get 2 or 3 inches out of this by 10am tomorrow morning.

 

This run gives mby over 3/10’s liquid; it’ll be interesting to see how close it comes to verifying...

 

Good point.  I haven't even paid attention to Saturday.  I hope you finally land the snow marlin up there.

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this is Raleigh during the peak of the precip  :axe:

 

 

 

:flood:

 

This is from another source.  Am not sure if it was pay site material or just a FB type post:

WxSouth

GFS Upper low doesn't match synoptics correctly. Loses the cold air in eastern NC, east VA, which is extremely unlikely

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Euro will settle it in about an hour or so as usual, It probably want move much from 12z but I hope it drifts south some?  My guess is they will all settle around the Euro track soon...

 

I will admit right now that I would be surprised to see all other models suddenly break neck to the Euro in a non-split flow.  It could happen.  

 

My biggest nagging concern that keeps haunting me and restricting my enthusiasm for the mid-week possibility is the PAC and how it may be continuing to muck around with the solutions.  I am convinced that the models reliability have been compromised by it all winter.

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