Logan11 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Dunno if it will last, but great dendrites here now. I guess even the normally trusty Euro isn't perfect. Just goes to show how difficult weather forecasting can be. Absolute paint peeling peltfest right now with the heavier echoes. A few flakes mixed in now, but they aren't your typical snow/sleet parachutes kind of flakes. They're more the soft snow flurries type with unmelted flakes at slow fall velocity. I wonder if there's actually some snow growth occurring in the low levels beneath the inversion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 wow at the radar north of syracuse ny they are getting pounded A lot of that is probably sleet per the dual pol. the flakes are massive here Interesting. The midlevels must be a little colder to my SE. Could be some downslope warming downwind of the Berkshires on the easterly flow that is jinxing me. The dual pol is showing an area of lower correlation coefficients along the west slope of the Berks, indicative of sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Latest RAP continues to advance the 850 0C line northwestward until about 10z and then it comes back SE through 15z before going back NW...but the BL torches. Worst case scenario...no snow while its cold enough in the lower levels to snow....and then rain. Pretty sickening run. Its warm right up into S NH. Basically this has been acomplete sh**show by the models...and unfrotunately the most skillful one which will have to live this one down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Seems like W MA/NW CT temps have fallen a degree or so since midnight. It looks like they're about to get pounded soon based on radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I went through some serious sleet in the Hudson Valley between around Bear Mountain/Harriman area and Kingston around 2 hours ago on my way up from NYC. From Catskill/Hudson area north it was mostly -SN. Of course that's a 90 minute old obs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 If it's snow. Oswego had rain before. Now they have flipped to snow but 34. Snowing good here and 28.4. We got an inch in the last 45 minutes. I was wondering what it was doing out your way as the radar echoes appear more smooth. Dual pol also has higher correlation coefficients to my west as well. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Surely its snowing on the East Slope. It always snows at Pete's house. A lot of that is probably sleet per the dual pol. Interesting. The midlevels must be a little colder to my SE. Could be some downslope warming downwind of the Berkshires on the easterly flow that is jinxing me. The dual pol is showing an area of lower correlation coefficients along the west slope of the Berks, indicative of sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 im sure ill be over to all sleet and rain in no time Maybe in this event you will be the new Mt. Tolland where everyone else aorund you gets nothing and you pick up 4" of paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 went outside and its sleet here. A few mangle flakes mixed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 im sure ill be over to all sleet and rain in no time What's your elevation? Granby is still all snow at about 900 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We;ll need to go over snow here in the next hour or two to try and pick up a few inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Much more snow mixing in now. Mostly snow with a little sleet and visibility dropping a bit. Midlevels may be cooling off some due to dynamic and evaporational cooling processes. As usual when there's winter weather unfolding I can't really sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We;ll need to go over snow here in the next hour or two to try and pick up a few inches. Hopefully you will when the heavier echos move through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 close to 300 not high at all but better then the 60 on the other side of town lol heres a webcam from stanley park in westfield massive flakes there also! http://www.stanleypark.org/page/stanley-park-live What's your elevation? Granby is still all snow at about 900 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Much more snow mixing in now. Mostly snow with a little sleet and visibility dropping a bit. Midlevels may be cooling off some due to dynamic and evaporational cooling processes. As usual when there's winter weather unfolding I can't really sleep. Thats a good sign for me on the east slope of the ORH hills....mostly sleet here right now with a few mangled flakes mixed in, but the heavy echoes are still just W of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 ALB just went to mod snow and 1/2 vis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 If we can flip to snow and stay there through about 10-11z....then this event can be salvaged looking at radar...but not sure how possible that is. Its ugly right now...but Mitch's obs offers hope since E slopes here should actually cool more efficiently than him and so far BL is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 close to 300 not high at all but better then the 60 on the other side of town lol heres a webcam from stanley park in westfield massive flakes there also! http://www.stanleypark.org/page/stanley-park-live Wow, massive flakes indeed... very cool looking webcam. Wish I was there lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 +SN now and two new inches. This is the best snow all winter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Mixture of rain and sleet here, dropped down to 34.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Warrior commander Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Sleet here 32F moderate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Warrior commander Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 *Temp 33 F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 ALB just went to mod snow and 1/2 vis. It always gets me when ALB has SN and has a warmer surface temperature than I do and I'm sleeting. It's all in the midlevels for me right now as there's definitely a warm tongue aloft over the west slope. This happened in the 12/26 event as well. If we can flip to snow and stay there through about 10-11z....then this event can be salvaged looking at radar...but not sure how possible that is. Its ugly right now...but Mitch's obs offers hope since E slopes here should actually cool more efficiently than him and so far BL is not an issue. I'm still a sleet, snow mix, but you can definitely tell that the snow is being generated in the low levels beneath the sleet as the flakes are small and unmelted. These aren't partially melted, clumped together aggregates. This is good news for east slope areas looking to cash in on the LLJ and orographic uplift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Sleet here 32F moderate Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 It always gets me when ALB has SN and has a warmer surface temperature than I do and I'm sleeting. It's all in the midlevels for me right now as there's definitely a warm tongue aloft over the west slope. This happened in the 12/26 event as well. I'm still a sleet, snow mix, but you can definitely tell that the snow is being generated in the low levels beneath the sleet as the flakes are small and unmelted. These aren't partially melted, clumped together aggregates. This is good news for east slope areas looking to cash in on the LLJ and orographic uplift. I'm pretty pessimistic here, but we usually do very well when it comes to the MLs on easterly flow on the east slope of ORH hills....but I'm stlll worried this is too fleeting and not something that might last 4-6 hours..I'm guessing I get a 2-3 hour period of decent snow and then torch in the low levels. Unfortunate because as recently as 6 hours ago it looked like it could be way better than that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Disappointing. I'm surprised that Westfield and areas in the valley are snowing while it's rain/sleet in the hills east of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'm surprised that Westfield and areas in the valley are snowing while it's rain/sleet in the hills east of there. All about lift right now...they ar eprob in a better area of ML lift...whereas to the east its still low level lift. I'm sure you will see some flakes once lift becomes deeper...well maybe not sure, but perhaps. I will see some flakes too I'm sure, but then i torch, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 All about lift right now...they ar eprob in a better area of ML lift...whereas to the east its still low level lift. I'm sure you will see some flakes once lift becomes deeper...well maybe not sure, but perhaps. I will see some flakes too I'm sure, but then i torch, Looks like there's a band of heavy precip getting ready to move through here... not sure if it'll be mostly sleet again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Some aggregates mixing in now, suggesting that the mid levels may be cooling off some. Off to get a little shut eye. 31.1 F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Warrior commander Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Disappointing. I know.. some Rain mixed with that sleet now and 32.5 F Moderate intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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