Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I mentioned a couple of days ago that the early week system was drawing my interest. It's now looking like it could be a PL fest. No wonder my radar was keying in on this. 0z Euro went south a bit, 0z GFS came north...for the Sunday night/early Monday deal. Flip flop, flop flip. Rare warm day on tap here for today. Fleeting warmth of course. But, I don't mind the cool/cold right now at all. I'll be fondly recalling this March sometime in June, July... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's not a fair fight considering how exceptional last year was, but here's the average high temperature (and departure) through the 14th for March 2012 vs 2013 at LAF. 2012: 59.5º +12.9º 2013: 39.5º -7.1º normal: 46.6º Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I would kill for last March. I'm over the cold and so ready for spring. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I would kill for last March. I'm over the cold and so ready for spring. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Yeah and it killed nearly the entire W MI fruit crop. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah and it killed nearly the entire W MI fruit crop. No thanks. this^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 GGEM was pretty sweet. Lock that in with the GFS then we're playing ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 0z GGEM would work. Verbatim...heavy snow over to [expletive] over to rain for LAF. At least it would be exciting, but a slight shift south would be nice. 0z Euro ensemble mean 6-10 day 850 temperature departures. Hide the women and children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 0z GGEM would work. Verbatim...heavy snow over to [expletive] over to rain for LAF. At least it would be exciting, but a slight shift south would be nice. 0z Euro ensemble mean 6-10 day 850 temperature departures. Hide the women and children. Don't get me wrong, I love cold and snow in the winter as much as anyone else here. But I'm ready to get out in the yard and work in short sleeves and not have to wear mud boots every trip. Seriously not trying to troll, just ready for the next season and severe to come around. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Woke up at 3 and it was snowing. got bout 1.5" and temp rose to 32. Now falling thru the upper 20's with gusty N winds blowing snow pretty good. Dark skies and stuff making it look and feel like a Jan day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Don't get me wrong, I love cold and snow in the winter as much as anyone else here. But I'm ready to get out in the yard and work in short sleeves and not have to wear mud boots every trip. Seriously not trying to troll, just ready for the next season and severe to come around. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Understood. I'm not trying to troll either, just stating the facts. But, normal high temps in central Indiana are now around 50. I think some people, not you, have this skewed perception that March is 60's and 70's all the time in Indiana. This edition is reminding folks it isn't always Morch. Warmth will arrive at some point, just need patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 No Harleys or Robins singing this Morch Glacier Pack intact until April here in the far south? Ice fishing and snow pack until deep April to the North? Wow. Top of the top shelf stuff we're witnessing folks. can fap to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Lets all pray that the 06 gfs is right and we'll only have one day time high above normal the whole month of March and it continues all spring and summer. AC could use a break from running so hard the the last 3 summers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Lets all pray that the 06 gfs is right and we'll only have one day time high above normal the whole month of March and it continues all spring and summer. AC could use a break from running so hard the the last 3 summers. Here! Here! Jealous of your glacier...just the right ingredients came into place for MKE to have a rare sustainable March snowpack. Even though the only snow left here is the grossly dirty parking lot piles (hopefully that changes tonight) it will be hilarious to start looking back at pics from last year and this year and comparing the greenup. Last year was a month early, if the longterm holds this year will be later than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The only headache I'm bound to deal with is with our trucks. The secondary roads have frost laws and reduced weigh restrictions while in effect. Last year the frost laws were done by mid March, this year it could be late April. Usually its 2-3 weeks after the thaw is complete.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 such a shame. would love to see those stately elm lined streets. These days most treelines streets have a variety of trees. Every once in a while I see a big elm tree here and there that has managed to survive. I wonder how many are left? Those honey locust trees seem to be the new tree of choice to line city streets. Honey Locust trees are easy for clean-up, have shallow roots (good for underground utilities) and keep there growth in check. Best tree for lining sidewalks but awful for vast shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The only headache I'm bound to deal with is with our trucks. The secondary roads have frost laws and reduced weigh restrictions while in effect. Last year the frost laws were done by mid March, this year it could be late April. Usually its 2-3 weeks after the thaw is complete.. Frost laws will expire at normal times this year. I just sat in on a meeting about upcoming Summer construction projects. FWIW the frost is deep but nowhere near historic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah and it killed nearly the entire W MI fruit crop. No thanks. This. Last March was a disaster for farmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 This. Last March was a disaster for farmers. You want 60-80 degrees in March move to Louisiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Here! Here! Jealous of your glacier...just the right ingredients came into place for MKE to have a rare sustainable March snowpack. Even though the only snow left here is the grossly dirty parking lot piles (hopefully that changes tonight) it will be hilarious to start looking back at pics from last year and this year and comparing the greenup. Last year was a month early, if the longterm holds this year will be later than normal. Can it happen to have a February and March with at least some snow covering the ground the whole time? It might this year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Most models are showing a band of WAA snow this Monday for southern Ontario. It appears the southern wave will be able to outrace the northern wave over the the northern Great Lakes. As a result, more cold air from the northeast will be available to be tapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Can it happen to have a February and March with at least some snow covering the ground the whole time? It might this year here. February certainly...March i dont know. Looking at Detroits data since 1906....1"+ snowcover days (which means I didnt include days with T snowcover).... the following Februarys had 1"+ snowcover the entire month: 1908 1910 1912 1920 1947 1967 1978 1982 The following feb's were close but no cigar at 25+ days 27 days - 1914 26 days - 1926 25 days - 1929 25 days - 1962 25 days - 2011 NOW...March is another story. the top 5 Marches with the most 1"+ snowcover days at Detroit: 27 days - 1960 26 days - 1965 25 days - 1912 22 days - 1916 17 days - 2008 In March 1965, the remaining 5 days had a T of snowdepth, making it the only March on record to not have a single day with 0 snowdepth. march 1960 had the more impressive depth, but a torch the last few days of the month made the snow disappear (despite these 70F temps the month was still one of the coldest Marches on record for the midwest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nasty morning here. 32 and rain. Adding to moisture of our snowpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Looking cold and interesting after possible storm Monday WHAT DOES APPEAR A BIT MORE CERTAIN IS YET ANOTHER COLD SHOT OF AIR SET TO ROLL INTO THE AREA BY TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY...SETTING THE STAGE FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED SNOW SHOWERS. SHOULD THE UPPER LOW CLOSE OFF AS CURRENTLY DEPICTED BY THE ECMWF (AND TO A LESSER DEGREE BY THE GFS)...COULD BE LOOKING AT AN EXTENDED STRETCH OF ACCUMULATING LAKE EFFECT...SOME OF WHICH COULD BE SIGNIFICANT GIVEN EXCELLENT MOISTURE AND THERMAL REGIME. THE ONE THING THAT IS MOST CONFIDENCE IS BELOW NORMAL TEMPS RIGHT ON THROUGH THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...EVEN AT THE WEATHER QUIETS DOWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nasty morning here. 32 and rain. Adding to moisture of our snowpack What kind of snowpack do you have? I remember early in the winter you had unprecedented bare ground...now sounds like you have a nice pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nah, just seasonal temps. That'd be all. No need for a 6" storm in the last half of the month. I understand people like snow and cold here, I just like all 4 seasons. I enjoy a week of 100 in August just as much as a December blizzard. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 You want 60-80 degrees in March move to Louisiana Just need a couple of 40F+ days with some sunshine...maybe a 50F... i don't see that happening this month. Of course this is just plain nuts: and will probably not happen again in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioWX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Through 3/14, YHM recorded a mean temp of 28.6ºF, with an average high of 34.2ºF and an average low of 23.2ºF. (EC is missing data from 3/1 and 3/10, so it might be a tad too cold since last Sunday's warmth isn't included.) The mean temp for the entire month of March is typically 31.5ºF and we still have half a month to go, so while we are below-average here we aren't seeing the huge temperature departures that other places in the midwest are seeing. At this point March is almost a lock for a colder-than-normal month, which would make March 2013 only the third month since April 2011 to do that. (with Nov. 2012 and Feb. 2013 being the other two) These are compared to 1971-2000 averages so if 1981-2010 averages were used we would likely have a few more colder-than-normal months in there. Edit: Also, if you go solely by what YHM records, we have had at least 4cm of snow on the ground since February 1st, including today. I don't know what it's like at the airport but there's hardly any snow left at all here. Maybe a few dirty snowpiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 70" season within reach here if the next two systems deliver on the higher end of whats expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 What kind of snowpack do you have? I remember early in the winter you had unprecedented bare ground...now sounds like you have a nice pack. Maybe 7-8 inches here but just to the west of la crosse 40 miles or so it jump probably to 12. Lots of water in the pack though. Ya that early year bare ground really drove in the frost this year.... Gonna be a late start to my golf season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 70" season within reach here if the next two systems deliver on the higher end of whats expected. whats ARB at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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