Chicago WX Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Solid -16º departure at LAF yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RCs2RKiLlA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Winter wonderland this morning.... coming down hard, but the flake size looks small. the string of 40s and cloudy skies has been going since November...this is the worst of the worst. +1 Its not much better around here...lots and lots of clouds this winter/early spring..or so it would seem. I think we had one stretch of several consecutive days with sunshine..other then that its been very difficult to string together more then a couple of days of sunshine. Another thing is the weekends have been just rotten the past month or so... Sure its kept our overnite temps mild, but days just blow with cloudcover (imo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I'm still enjoying winter. Yes, the bite is gone, but the bark is still here. Keep the lake as cold as possible in hopes of a coolish summer with refreshing lake breezes. My house does not have AC. Surprisingly, a lot here don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 FWIW, Dual Pol upgrade finally begins at DTX on March 18th http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dualpol/index.php?wfo=dtx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 1.7" of snow recorded yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Flake size is huge now..coming down harder now then it has all morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Flake size is huge now..coming down harder now then it has all morning... It looks on radar like La Crosse is getting the brunt of it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Just let up here...big flakes mixing into smaller flakes...i'll have to shovel Still looks like that Hayward area of Wisconsin is going to cash in on a lot of snow in the next 120 hrs... showing 6 to 8 here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Looks like 3-5 for much of the southern Michigan part of the subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Looks like 3-5 for much of the southern Michigan part of the subforum. This is probably going to bust high. Bad ratios, mixing, and warmer surface temps wouldnt be very condusive. 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 12z GGEM joins the Euro with the Sunday-Monday overrunning deal for parts of IL, IN, MI, and OH. Verbatim, really lays the smack down on LAF...but becomes marginal/over to rain towards the end. 12z GFS still south, not as interested, but took a baby step in the direction of the foreign models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Euro + consistency = Sort-lived thumping for the IN crew Sunday/Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 2 to 3 inches of fluff here...could have shoveled with a broom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Euro + consistency = Sort-lived thumping for the IN crew Sunday/Monday. Snow...Guiness, Smithwicks, and car bombs (the "drink")...sounds like a match made in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 This is probably going to bust high. Bad ratios, mixing, and warmer surface temps wouldnt be very condusive. 1-3. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 12z GFS ...torch...if you are in Greenland... the ice sheets are melting while we freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Guaranteed flooding in North Dakota this year... The 12GFS covers almost the whole state in a foot+ of snow with some h oney spots of 20 inches...Fargo has like a foot+ on the ground...that river flows north..not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I can confirm it was snowing pretty good just east of DLL. Just west of Sparta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Sparta, WI..the armpit of Wisconsin Roads are starting to melt off nicely with the nonexistent sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 My three inch snowfall from Tuesday night is slowly melting away with grass reappearing. I like that the models are becoming more active as we continue the march into spring. March 21/22 looks like a significant system for the midwest if this pans out as presently seen on the 12z GFS this Thursday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 12z GGEM joins the Euro with the Sunday-Monday overrunning deal for parts of IL, IN, MI, and OH. Verbatim, really lays the smack down on LAF...but becomes marginal/over to rain towards the end. 12z GFS still south, not as interested, but took a baby step in the direction of the foreign models. Haven't really looked at this too much but an obvious potential issue is temps. Kinda seems like we are setting up another American/foreign model battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Nice agreement among the 12z GFS ensembles for a potentially significant upper trough moving out of the West around Thursday next week (what Indystorm was referring to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I usually don't disagree with you Josh, as you are many times the voice of reason among MI posters, but in this case I do. When you say that snow cover adds nothing new to the books, that's wrong. Days of snowcover is recorded and looked at by weather historians such as yourself. I do understand that you are looking at it from a winter weather weenie's point of view. I know that many people here would rather hear fingernails across a chalkboard than see the term stat padding used, but in this case, Mike's comment is an example of the proper use of the term. Any time that the ground is bare, a measurable snow falls, then is gone within 1-4 hours I consider a stat padder. For example, years into the future, I'd look at this year and say that it was a good late Dec. snow and good stretch of winter weather with the snowcover in early Jan. However, Feb. was full of stat padders, at least in this area. Many days of measurable snowfall adding up to double digit totals, but nothing over 1.5" on the ground for any one day, averaging just a trace. To be honest I dont agree with me. I was using the snowcover example as a way to show how silly stat padding is to me. Granted if there was such a term your example would be the proper definition (the term was coined on amwx in 2011-12 and is now used for EVERY kind and amount of snow). But this is the bottom line. Weather records have the total snowfall for the day, the total liquid in the snow (which shows you right there what type of ratio, even accounting for some error), the 12z snow depth, and of course the high/low. There isn't a winter ever we have not had varying types of snow. There's always been 4-1 ratio slush and 30-1 ratio fluff and everything in between. We still do have it all, the problem is now EVERYTHING is considered stat padding on amwx Have no fear ESPECIALLY with mr expressing my annoyance of the term, every snow in this possible stormy period will be called stat padding. Bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Got some "snizzle" here right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I have not had a lot of time to play with it, but the precipitation depiction on radar scope appears to be fairly accurate at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Beautiful early Spring day here. Plentiful sunshine and temps have responded. DTW just hit 40. Lol on any typical day that temp would be a non story. But the strong march sun makes it feel much warmer out. People are outside enjoying this and the disc golfers are filling the park. Robins are out in full force too. They are gonna hate the snow tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Sun is out here now...temp has risen enough so its not too bad out there..snow that fell this morning is all melted off of concrete/roofs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Beautiful early Spring day here. Plentiful sunshine and temps have responded. DTW just hit 40. Lol on any typical day that temp would be a non story. But the strong march sun makes it feel much warmer out. People are outside enjoying this and the disc golfers are filling the park. Robins are out in full force too. They are gonna hate the snow tomorrow night. Long range GFS anomaly's are cold, but with a base average of 45-50 at the end of the run... its going to verify with temps in the upper 30's. Low temps will be much lower than average though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Long range GFS anomaly's are cold, but with a base average of 45-50 at the end of the run... its going to verify with temps in the upper 30's. Low temps will be much lower than average though. Its gonna be chilly for sure. But you are setting up for a fail by calling high temps this far out. The long range guidance can literally change in a heartbeat. We have seen this time after time, year after year. I dont even know why NCEP wastes precious bandwidth on 200hrs +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Its gonna be chilly for sure. But you are setting up for a fail by calling high temps this far out. The long range guidance can literally change in a heartbeat. We have seen this time after time, year after year. I dont even know why NCEP wastes precious bandwidth on 200hrs +. The main confidence builder I see is the run to run consistency. The GFS was flipping between warm and cold on nearly every run, its locked into cold and hasn't thrown a single "Warm" bone in quite a few days. If there was above average temps, we would see some type of random signal. Who knows... I prefer warmth anyhow, but I also like the idea of a strong negative anomaly after last years major positive one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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