jburns Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I was sitting with the principal at my daughters game tonight and we were all dumbfounded. We don't get "snow days". Any days missed have to be made up. Everyone makes up snow days to equal the state required 180 days. In the mountains they just schedule more than 180 days to start with so while it seems like they don't make up days it's kind of an illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Idk guys... I think this has bust written all over it. Wet bulbs are still above freezing over most of NC outside the far northern portions and mountains. Precip is racing in faster than most models had it which may beat out high pressure trying to nose in from the north that is needed to drive the wedge. I think the further east you are the better off you will be. East winds at Hickory/Greensboro/Winston aren't gonna cut it. They're above freezing everywhere in NC according to the SPC conditions: Edit: OK, there prob two counties in NE NC that are below freezing at the wet-bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 My temp is rising also, was 44.8 now up to 45.7/19 Boone warming up to 39/40...North Wilkesboro warming up to 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Pouring sleet here temp down to 40.. dewpoint rising up to 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_Sidedryslot:-( Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 46/30 had went to mostly rain now back to moderate sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Don't forget about snowflakes melting and cooling the column. But yeah, wetbulbs above freezing everywhere with east winds is not what you want to see for winter weather, outside of some token sleet/snow at the onset for those lucky enough to see it. Then WAA takes over, ice nucleation region dries, and the column warms throughout. Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Very good returns blossoming north-east of Asheville...heavy heavy sleet possibly. Looks to hit Wilkes, Watauga, Ashe, Surrry, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 .NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 933 PM THURSDAY... NO MAJOR CHANGES TO CURRENT FORECAST OR WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY. ATM...PRECIPITATION BEGINNING TO BREAK OUT OVER SOUTHWESTERN NC IN RESPONSE TO INCREASING UPPER LEVEL JET DIVERGENCE AND MID-LEVEL DPVA ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK VORT IMPULSE(S) THAT HAS DETACHED ITSELF FROM THE MID-LEVEL VORTEX LIFTING NORTHWARD INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES REGION. WHILE CURRENT UPSTREAM RADAR TRENDS ARE IMPRESSIVE...THE AREA OF PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN AS IT CONTINUES TO ADVANCE EAST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS AND INTO THE CAROLINAS...BECOMING FARTHER REMOVED FROM THE BETTER UPPER LOW DYNAMICS LIFTING NORTHWARD THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST WITH MID-LEVEL WARM MOIST AIR ADVECTION BECOMING THE PRIMARY GENERATOR OF LIFT OVER THE AREA THROUGH DAYBREAK...FOLLOWED BY STRONG WARM ADV/ISENTROPIC LIFT AS A 30 TO 40 LOW LVL JET TRAVERSES THE AREA THROUGH THE DAY ON FRIDAY. REVIEW OF OBSERVED PRECIP AMOUNTS UPSTREAM ACROSS THE TN VALLEY...NORTHERN MS/GA...INDICATE THAT THE SREF MEAN IS VERIFYING THE BEST ATM...WITH THE NAM TOO DRY AND THE GFS TOO WET...ESPECIALLY ON ITS EASTERN PERIPHERY. IF THESE TRENDS HOLD TRUE...THE SREF MEAN BRINGS APPROXIMATELY AROUND A 0.25" OF LIQUID EQUIVALENT INTO THE TRIAD WITH A STRIP OF A 0.10" ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER OF FORECAST AREA. GIVEN THE DRY ANTECEDENT LOW-LEVEL AIRMASS IN PLACE(DEWPOINTS STILL IN THE TEENS AND LOWER 20S)...LIQUID EQUIVALENTS OF THIS AMOUNT(ESPECIALLY WITH THE HIGHER AMOUNTS ACROSS THE NW PIEDMONT)WOULD BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO WET-BULB(EVAP COOL) THE SFC TEMPERATURES TO NEAR FREEZING AOA DAYBREAK IN THE ADVISORY AREA WITH AN INCREASE THREAT OF NUISANCE ICING...ESPECIALLY IN THE TRIAD/PERSON COUNTY. A BRIEF PERIOD OF SNOW AND/OR SLEET WILL BE POSSIBLE WITHIN A HEAVY PRECIP AREA...BUT THIS WOULD BE A BRIEF GEE WHIZ MOMENT. AGAIN THE MAIN THREAT APPEARS TO BE A LIGHT ICE ACCRUAL FROM FREEZING RAIN. Crazy I am almost 10 degrees cooler than ya'll out west, wetbulbs kinda even out, but still, doubt we make it to the freezing mark tonight, or in the morning for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 46/30 had went to mostly rain now back to moderate sleet. Sleet here now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Very good returns blossoming north-east of Asheville...heavy heavy sleet possibly. Looks to hit Wilkes, Watauga, Ashe, Surrry, etc. I'm sure it's going to sleet for a little while per reports already, but I just don't see us getting down to freezing? Maybe i'm wrong Idk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Sleet/Rain mix here, bouncing between 47/48 degrees, Dewpoint 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm sure it's going to sleet for a little while per reports already, but I just don't see us getting down to freezing? Maybe i'm wrong Idk!!! We are actually set to get the heaviest returns according to radar. They really picked up or started showing intense sleet or something as soon as they passed Asheville. Should help cool us off better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wake County delayed 3 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4CF Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 39oF rain/sleet mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Wake County delayed 3 hours I really don't get it. Part of me hates to second guess it, but what in the world? If wet bulbs across the state are above freezing, how are we going to get hazardous conditions enough to warrant a 3 hour delay? I'm seriously asking. When I was in school, it was a one hour delay, stretched to two, if conditions warranted in the morning. I know they have year-round and staggered start times now to consider...but three hours for what looks like a winter "event" that seems very unlikely to have a high impact (or even a low one)?? What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Blacksburg as of 9:15 MODELS BRINGS THE LEADING EDGE OF PRECIPITATION INTO THE WESTERNPART OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA BEFORE MIDNIGHT. LATESTTEMPERATURE PROFILES STILL INDICATE A MIX OF SNOW AND SLEET FORTHE FIRST COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE A CHANGE TO PRIMARILY FREEZINGRAIN. BEST LIFT WITH THIS SYSTEM THROUGH 7AM COMES WITH UPSLOPEWINDS AND ISENTROPIC LIFT. HAVE SLIGHTLY INCREASED AMOUNT OFLIQUID PRECIPITATION THROUGH 7AM. SURFACE DEW POINTS WERE IN THETEENS AS OF 02Z/9PM WITH A LARGE TEMPERATURE/DEW POINT SPREAD.STILL PLENTY OF EVAPORATIVE COOLING POSSIBLE TO BRING TEMPERATURESDOWN INTO THE 30S OVERNIGHT.FOR ICE ACCUMULATIONS...BELIEVE HIGHEST AMOUNTS WILL OCCUR ALONGTHE BLUE RIDGE...CLOSE TO A QUARTER INCH...WHERE THE PERSISTENTSOUTHEASTERLY FLOW IS IDEAL FOR UPSLOPE PRECIPITATION ENHANCEMENT.ELSEWHERE...LOOKING FOR BETWEEN ONE TO TWO TENTHS OF AN INCHACROSS THE MOUNTAINS...AND LESS THAN A TENTH ACROSS THE PIEDMONTS.HAVE ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR NEARLY ALL OF THEFORECAST AREA...AS ADVISORY CRITERIA INCLUDES ANY ICING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I really don't get it. Part of me hates to second guess it, but what in the world? If wet bulbs across the state are above freezing, how are we going to get hazardous conditions enough to warrant a 3 hour delay? I'm seriously asking. When I was in school, it was a one hour delay, stretched to two, if conditions warranted in the morning. I know they have year-round and staggered start times now to consider...but three hours for what looks like a winter "event" that seems very unlikely to have a high impact (or even a low one)?? What am I missing? Agreed, only thing I can think of is they don't want high school buses on the road at 6am if there is frozen precip. This looks like mainly a rain event except for the VA/NC border, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I have a few sleet pellets outside. My run of the mill home thermometer says 50 deg. Charlotte airport reporting 51 deg at 10PM....think the highest temp I've ever seen sleet is around 49 deg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 GSO is down to 44F as of 10 PM with a wet bulb of 34F. Creeping downward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I have a few sleet pellets outside. My run of the mill home thermometer says 50 deg. Charlotte airport reporting 51 deg at 10PM....think the highest temp I've ever seen sleet is around 49 deg Here's the 00z NAM CLT sounding for 10PM (via RAP)... http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/10pmsounding.gif/'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMetroWinston Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Christian Coe @ofcCTC @wxbrad light sleet in the Charlotte University area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I really don't get it. Part of me hates to second guess it, but what in the world? If wet bulbs across the state are above freezing, how are we going to get hazardous conditions enough to warrant a 3 hour delay? I'm seriously asking. When I was in school, it was a one hour delay, stretched to two, if conditions warranted in the morning. I know they have year-round and staggered start times now to consider...but three hours for what looks like a winter "event" that seems very unlikely to have a high impact (or even a low one)?? What am I missing? No mystery. They are erring on the side of caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVille Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Nothing falling in statesville yet all virga which I guess could be good as the temperature is declining steadily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_Sidedryslot:-( Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 43/33 COLD RAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Light sleet here now. Gut feeling it will be sleeting pancakes within 1 hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Blacksburg and their inconsistent maps...interesting snowfall map though in the Piedmont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Steady sleet here now. Heard its raining in Boone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheelwx Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 00z gfs quite impressive with strip of .50+ qpf through the triad. TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Blacksburg and their inconsistent maps...interesting snowfall map though in the Piedmont. Their maps don't line up with the WWA in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 00z gfs quite impressive with strip of .50+ qpf through the triad. TW Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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