Ginx snewx Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 what is the nam's biasAnything t plus 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 what is the nam's bias Suckage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 We don't like the RGEM? I've always liked to lean on it for short-term, tends to be a lot more realistic than some weenie NAM solutions. Euro is the best short term actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 RGEM coming in warmer is def somewhat of a concern. It was pretty cold at 18z. The NCEP guidance hasn't really been interested in joining the foreign models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gfs seems pretty chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yup, GFS is a little colder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 The NAM is a fast outlier (haven't seen the RGEM) with the speed in which it fused streams into the closed low; this causes the closed low to deepen/broaden sooner, which allows it to attain a greater polarward position relative to the global guidance types. It doesn't mean it can't be right, but I don't believe this type of evolution is where the NAM shines brightest performance-wise. We are not not talking a giant different anyway. This run still gives interior SNE a solid heavy snow wall prior to flipping [probably] to sleet and a period of ZR before ending. On the coast, for snow ... regardless of the colder or warmer solutions aloft, you are/were going to have issues with a howling E wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gfs seems pretty chilly. It looks quite similar to me as 18z...it was slightly colder at 18z early on but slightly warmer later between 18z/00z Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gfs seems pretty chilly. at hr 30 , primary is a bit further west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 GFS is a crusher up here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 at hr 30 , primary is a bit further west Looking way beyond.,hour 60. But the warming stops before the nh border vs nam in prior panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Man, even some of these "Warmer" soundings are so close to isothermal snow bomb...looking at 42h sounding for here on GFS. Regardless, it looks like the interior hills will see a good thump....the question is whether it can become a big warning event be staying mostly snow or if its a 4-6 hour job before flipping. Won't be staying up for the Euro tonight. Ukie was cold again but not as obscenely cold as 12z was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 GFS is a crusher up here as well enjoy brother, insanely jealous of cne/nne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Man, even some of these "Warmer" soundings are so close to isothermal snow bomb...looking at 42h sounding for here on GFS. Regardless, it looks like the interior hills will see a good thump....the question is whether it can become a big warning event be staying mostly snow or if its a 4-6 hour job before flipping. Won't be staying up for the Euro tonight. Ukie was cold again but not as obscenely cold as 12z was. Gfs snows on us as the ull passes just underneath d3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gfs snows on us as the ull passes just underneath d3. that's rain on the cp, maybe a mix at nite stale airmass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 enjoy brother, insanely jealous of cne/nne Thanks cpick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gfs snows on us as the ull passes just underneath d3. It can snow steady and lightly, with moderate bursts in that, and not really accumulate too well do to wetness/compaction. It's still possible that the like with the NAM (but not as aggressively) it is allowing too much polarward position with the quasi-closed low, which of course allows the warm push into the overriding critical thickness'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 that's rain on the cp, maybe a mix at nite stale airmass Thicknesses look cold enough for snow at 72 hours. What are you looking at specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 that's rain on the cp, maybe a mix at nite stale airmass Incorrect, Bl subfreezing most of the time past 72 hours while its coming down as modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Incorrect, Bl subfreezing most of the time past 72 hours while its coming down as modeled. i was looking at 66, but i would be impress'd if acuums would actually occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 i was looking at 66, but i would be impress'd if acuums would actually occur Gfs has a pretty good thump. Again.as modeled and likely wont happen verbatim with all the small. Changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Wow guys, I am personally very excited for another ~20 hours of 34 degree rains! Gl to those 15 miles north of me and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 i wonder if i could take a concord coach line from bos s. station to concord nh. leave at 8am in bos get to concord nh by 930 am . round trip 28 bucks. lol i'm sick but not joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gfs has a pretty good thump. Again.as modeled and likely wont happen verbatim with all the small. Changes. GFS looks "good" for the ULL. Onshore winds up through 8h but marginal 8h temps...would make it interesting as modeled even post ULL for some OE type stuff. Fantasy range though. Starting to feel like spring now with the snow threats centering further north and dealing with rolling ULL's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 GFS looks "good" for the ULL. Onshore winds up through 8h but marginal 8h temps...would make it interesting as modeled even post ULL for some OE type stuff. Fantasy range though. Starting to feel like spring now with the snow threats centering further north and dealing with rolling ULL's Once we lost the hemispheric drain and real meaningful cold post the blizzard this has flavored this way. Seems we are trying to time bowling season already. Or, needing perfect timing.. For winter enthusiasts, it's a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 GGEM still quite cold as well. Hopefully Euro holds serve or even cools a bit more. Won't be staying up for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 GGEM still quite cold as well. Hopefully Euro holds serve or even cools a bit more. Won't be staying up for it though. Colder than 12z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsw Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 enjoy brother, insanely jealous of cne/nne Well, here, where I'm in between CNE/WNE and NNE, NWS is saying "light to moderate" snowfall and then possible change to rain. Then they say that it becomes "more interesting" after the first batch. I'm clueless when it comes to models, etc., that's why I won't post much, except for obs. But they don't know exactly what's going to happen after the first batch, which is saying something because, even though I've read that before...I guess it's up in the air. That's why this site is a good resource, because you get all kinds of analysis and commentary that you wouldn't get in the NWS forecast discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 nice wave pic jaydubya and uh brattelboro is a snow hole ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yeah sure, throw another foot on top of the stuff I already have. I won't be putting for double bogey until late June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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