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Late February 2013 Mid-Long Range Discussion


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While we all wait on the GFS, I have a question. Did we have models in 1993? If so, how did they model the Superstorm at 7 days? I know that one showed up early as I can remember forecasts days in advance.

no internet back then but I remember 5 days out the computers they did have (LFM?-ask Wes, he'll know) were advertising a big one

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While we all wait on the GFS, I have a question. Did we have models in 1993? If so, how did they model the Superstorm at 7 days? I know that one showed up early as I can remember forecasts days in advance.

European had it 10 days out. I was a coop student at the NWS. I went to briefings every day. No one was ready to believe it. Then it lost the system for one day and everyone thought the GFS (AVN) was right. Then both had it and they decided to believe it! Was amazing to see.

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European had it 10 days out. I was a coop student at the NWS. I went to briefings every day. No one was ready to believe it. Then it lost the system for one day and everyone thought the GFS (AVN) was right. Then both had it and they decided to believe it! Was amazing to see.

I think it would be awesome to have an absolute monster to track for a week plus.

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I think it would be awesome to have an absolute monster to track for a week plus.

the last day the briefing was packed. TV cameras and everyone. Louis Uccelini ran the show for the forecast dept in Camp Springs MD. I remember the craziness. It was fun. Some old guys were yelling that the forecasters were not loud enough. Standing room only! It was crazy but fun.
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the last day the briefing was packed. TV cameras and everyone. Louis Uccelini ran the show for the forecast dept in Camp Springs MD. I remember the craziness. It was fun. Some old guys were yelling that the forecasters were not loud enough. Standing room only! It was crazy but fun.

I don't see how that storm isn't the number one for any weather enthusiast. I guess if you didn't experience it first hand it might not mean as much, but, my God, wow. I experienced single digit temps, sustained winds of near 50 for hours and 26 inches of snow......in the middle of March.

That storm fascinates me. I wish I had had the experience of watching it unfold in the days leading up to it.

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I don't see how that storm isn't the number one for any weather enthusiast. I guess if you didn't experience it first hand it might not mean as much, but, my God, wow. I experienced single digit temps, sustained winds of near 50 for hours and 26 inches of snow......in the middle of March.

That storm fascinates me. I wish I had had the experience of watching it unfold in the days leading up to it.

your area did much better than those of us along I95

you probably received, what, 18-24"?

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Were you not around in 09-10? Those locked in pretty early.

12/19 was iffy until about 60 hrs out, 2/6 was a lock 5 days out and 2/10 was there the run of the evening of 2/6, but the Canadian was the only one early on that went crazy with it

that winter is starting to seem like a long time ago

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no internet back then but I remember 5 days out the computers they did have (LFM?-ask Wes, he'll know) were advertising a big one

There was internet back then but it was just the beginning.......I remember working for Donnelly directory posting sports/business/weather updates to a bulletin board the night of.......everytime I posted the snow totals went up and by the end of my 4 hour shift it had gone from the low teens to almost 30 inches of snow in the forecast. .....it was pretty awesome!! :-)

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I don't see how that storm isn't the number one for any weather enthusiast. I guess if you didn't experience it first hand it might not mean as much, but, my God, wow. I experienced single digit temps, sustained winds of near 50 for hours and 26 inches of snow......in the middle of March.

That storm fascinates me. I wish I had had the experience of watching it unfold in the days leading up to it.

 

 

I was living in western PA, where we ended up with 2 feet. I don't think I would consider it a number 1 or even 2 storm for me.  The main reasion is it seemed to go by very fast. It literally started snowing (lightly) around  dawn on a Saturday, and was pretty much over by 8 p.m. that night. It ripped snow, 2-3 inches an hour, from about noon to 8 p.m., but then shut off pretty abruptly, at least back that way. I much prefer PII in 03,  Dec. 09, or Feb 5/6 2010 where it snowed more than 24 hours. 

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There was internet back then but it was just the beginning.......I remember working for Donnelly directory posting sports/business/weather updates to a bulletin board the night of.......everytime I posted the snow totals went up and by the end of my 4 hour shift it had gone from the low teens to almost 30 inches of snow in the forecast. .....it was pretty awesome!! :-)

yeah, I think unless you were in a position like yours actually updating on it, the average Joe didn't know what it was let alone have it

AOL changed that a year or 2 later

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Were you not around in 09-10? Those locked in pretty early.

Yeah they did, but neither is in league with the Superstorm. Those were great snowstorms regionally. 1993 was gulf of Mexico to Maine, unbelievable obs and stats out of that storm. I don't mean to imply that you aren't familiar with them, but you should check them out sometime. Truly amazing.

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There was internet back then but it was just the beginning.......I remember working for Donnelly directory posting sports/business/weather updates to a bulletin board the night of.......everytime I posted the snow totals went up and by the end of my 4 hour shift it had gone from the low teens to almost 30 inches of snow in the forecast. .....it was pretty awesome!! :-)

The first whiff I got of it was listening to a local radio broadcasting a forecast of 6 inches or more of snow on Sat. This was on Wed. I didn't really pay attention or even watch the weather channel the next two days. I was just really busy and didn't believe it anyway. On Friday it started snowing in the afternoon. My friend called and I asked him if it was still supposed to snow. He couldn't believe I asked him that and informed me there was a blizzard warning.

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Yeah they did, but neither is in league with the Superstorm. Those were great snowstorms regionally. 1993 was gulf of Mexico to Maine, unbelievable obs and stats out of that storm. I don't mean to imply that you aren't familiar with them, but you should check them out sometime. Truly amazing.

I don't really care about storms outside my backyard.

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don't fret Randy, it happens every year

it's called March 1....winter really is over

not that this model's prediction will be right, this link is the main factor that us snow lovers should be looking to for next year

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/CFSv2/imagesInd3/nino34Mon.gif

hmm, this has been coming around and just 9 more months of teasing

http://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfsv2fcst/imagesInd3/glbSSTSeaInd6.gif

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This threat is going to fail. We are all hoping but we all know in the end...nothing will happen

What's awesome about you, Ji, is that no matter how crappy and pessimistic I feel about snow chances, I know I have you to make me realize how mild my feelings are in comparison to yours.

Lol and no offense!

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This threat is going to fail. We are all hoping but we all know in the end...nothing will happen

I'll tell you, read through this NE thread and see how many people in NE thought they would get days of snow and they got diddly last night into today and will get a hair over diddly over the next few days

Euro has sucked in the 5+ day range

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39457-feb-27th-threat-to-be-discussed-in-time-but-it-should-tend-to-more-miller-b/

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