nutmegfriar Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Legitimately feeling badly for the folks in the Berks and southern VT. Tough year for them as the biggies have been just out of reach. I'd gladly take rain on this and pass the frozen stuff up to you folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i love the GFS just because kevin hates it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 So is this storm worth another drive up to NE? And if so, where should I go?! I'm like a heroin addict chasing his fix.You brought good jujuI would recommend the Holiday Inn on the Fitchburg Princeton line. Prob around 800 feet, right near Mt Wachusett and it has an indoor waterpark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Love the Met GFS bashing. Been waiting a long time for this and its finally here And I'm sure that no one here will be posting play-by-play when 12z comes out in half an hour, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 You brought good juju I would recommend the Holiday Inn on the Fitchburg Princeton line. Prob around 800 feet, right near Mt Wachusett and it has an indoor waterpark Not far from the Wachusett Brewery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i love the GFS just because kevin hates it.Ekster, Will, Mountainmet, Scooter all finally admitting its useless except for wiping. You and Ryan only GFS hugger holdouts left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 You brought good juju I would recommend the Holiday Inn on the Fitchburg Princeton line. Prob around 800 feet, right near Mt Wachusett and it has an indoor waterpark Okay, I will wait another day or so, if models start honing in I'll go, wth. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ekster, Will, Mountainmet, Scooter all finally admitting its useless except for wiping. You and Ryan only GFS hugger holdouts left i don't hug it. but i certainly use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ekster, Will, Mountainmet, Scooter all finally admitting its useless except for wiping. You and Ryan only GFS hugger holdouts leftwhat do you mean "finally"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not far from the Wachusett Brewery! I think their bar used to use nitrogen for the Wachusett Nut Brown Ale... I forgetEdit; for the Porter, not the Nut Brown The Wachusett Village Inn is also a good weenie spot with decent food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i don't hug it. but i certainly use it. I think there's a distinct difference between acknowledging its faults and failings vs. completely omitting it from the suite of guidance one takes into consideration. And I don't think you've hugged it. But, as usual, hyperbole is being deployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 the blizzard Didnt Yes it did.....it ticked back west, which is why CT jackpotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Its the CNE and NNE winter from hell..... 3" from "Nemo"...... can't even bear to watch any more model runs with ticks south and east. Tired of being nickle and dimed to death in the Champlain Valley. Ugh! Hasn't been terrible here--maybe just a hair below snowfall climo and lots of time still to come. Latest NAM run looks pretty good for us for at least a medium event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i don't hug it. but i certainly use it. It's guidance like everything else. It may show things that I incorporate...but I know enough climo to understand when to toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 what do you mean "finally"?Lol well some of them have been using it and thinking it adds value much if this winter. Though I think the blizzard finally was the last straw except for the final few holdouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yes it did.....it ticked back west, which is why CT jackpotted. I think that was a possibility....the mid level low tracks are tough to nail...the srfc low actually went as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Lol well some of them have been using it and thinking it adds value much if this winter. Though I think the blizzard finally was the last straw except for the final few holdouts It has its uses...just large coastal storms is where its terrible. In SWFEs its pretty solid...much better than the NAM usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yes it did.....it ticked back west, which is why CT jackpotted.Lol that is not why. The def band from the bombing low set up shop over Ct. It had nothing to do with it coming north or west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Fwiw, looking at the 9Z SREF plume, it had two distinct camps, one around 1-5" and another >12" with nothing in between and close to a 50/50 split. Reaffirms what Scott said... high stakes and reliant on dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yes it did.....it ticked back west, which is why CT jackpotted. Yes sir, not 1 model showed CT jackpotting the way it did. Deform bands seem to always form a bit farther NW than progged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Cold Conveyor Belt https://www.google.com/search?q=cold+conveyer+belt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 verbatim, 12z Nam would give Blizzard 2013 some company for parts of SNE... Total qpf, all snow: 2.74" kbos 2.56" kbox 2.63" kbed 2.41" korh 2.46" klwm 700mb VV = 23.9 for kbos @ 72h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yes sir, not 1 model showed CT jackpotting the way it did. Deform bands seem to always form a bit farther NW than progged. Verbatim no, but had a back bent WF sig at 700mb. That is a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It has its uses...just large coastal storms is where its terrible. In SWFEs its pretty solid...much better than the NAM usually.But then why do so many of you guys incorporate it into forecasts or worry about it? I can think if countless posts from Scooter of Phil saying things like " man I wish the GFS wasn't so warm" or the GFS does worry me. If its bad on coastals why use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 But then why do so many of you guys incorporate it into forecasts or worry about it? I can think if countless posts from Scooter of Phil saying things like " man I wish the GFS wasn't so warm" or the GFS does worry me. If its bad on coastals why use it? anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 But then why do so many of you guys incorporate it into forecasts or worry about it? I can think if countless posts from Scooter of Phil saying things like " man I wish the GFS wasn't so warm" or the GFS does worry me. If its bad on coastals why use it? Usually if the GFS is so warm, the euro is likely too. Where did that come from? Remember 12/29 when those fears were confirmed here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 GFS is strong with the srn vort, but the trough is sheared a bit. Like the srn vort though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thought you guys would wanna see a version of a weenie snow map from the NAM: It's great that Kevin can wind up with 25" and still be screwed in the big scheme of things. lol Epic gradient across the Berkshires and E NY with that NAM run. Almost reminiscent of the blizzard where the east slope got pounded and it was just a pedestrian 8" event IMBY. I'd like to see it bomb out a hair earlier, but it's latitude placement would be good. Just one more solution of what will likely be many different scenarios that will play out on the models. Still too soon for a consensus or for accumulation maps IMO. I was afraid of this in recognize that it really only had so much northward potential. It had/has a lot more room to stay south and then east. But, hope springs eternal. Nice day here at the Beast. Weenie flakes short lines, daughter vanished onto the trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 GFS is strong with the srn vort, but the trough is sheared a bit. Like the srn vort though. Its been trending slightly back west with the lakes ULL the last 2 runs...that is good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Legitimately feeling badly for the folks in the Berks and southern VT. Tough year for them as the biggies have been just out of reach. I'd gladly take rain on this and pass the frozen stuff up to you folks. I don't feel a shred of compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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