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Central PA - Second Half of February 2013


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I have a bottle of crown royal black coming my way if it snows 4" or greater( for here)

I was tempted to take the bet, but mine would have been Captain Private stock....

 

yum yum rum..

 

 

Had a great weekend snowmobiling.  Conditions were great.  Left camp mid afternoon with 10" on the ground.  I did "keep after" the storm evolution from my Iphone, but did not really look at the long range.  I did read in the main forum that Don S. seems to be thinking that the pattern may hold and that there may be a couple more chances coming. 

Any thoughts guys?

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Ok and I tend to agree things look bad right now but if the gfs holds and then the euro goes back to its solution from 2 days ago I wouldn't be shocked either.

I ''canceled'' winter in January and still hold true on that.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a few inches outside the mountains of Virginia but otherwise this isn't doesn't seem to be a monster event.

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I ''canceled'' winter in January and still hold true on that.  Wouldn't be surprised to see a few inches outside the mountains of Virginia but otherwise this isn't doesn't seem to be a monster event.

 

He did. He also "canceled" the christmas week storms that west-central PA enjoyed so much lol.

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Don't venture into the MA thread-land...it's like a weenie hostile takeover in there. 

 

In other news, the 00z GFS looks close to 18z through 39. Little weaker ULL, but not by much. And the blocking up north is weaker too. 

through 60 with the blocking weaker it is a couple miles north of 12z... at the surface also a couple mb stronger so wetter across northern VA and into southern PA as a result

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through 60 with the blocking weaker it is a couple miles north of 12z... at the surface also a couple mb stronger so wetter across northern VA and into southern PA as a result

in other words queue a DT rant about how bad the GFS is because it is further north than earlier lol... though northern VA very wet so maybe that will keep him happy

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lol seriously, he just posted about the nam being too warm but at least it was "thinking the right way".

 

look, we all know the euro is the best, but if he's going to take no other models into consideration, he's going to look like a jackass... wait, he already does.

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From Steven DiMartino, NYNJPAWeather.com

 

The new 00Z GFS takes a nice move northward, although warm with 925 MB temperatures between 2C and -1C throughout the region. This solution would suggest a mix of rain/snow with limited if any accumulation while just west of the Delaware River, a moderate snowfall accumulation, of say 3-6 inches would be possible. The GFS guidance took a big leap northward. But why? The reason can be found at 54HR at 500 MB when a piece of the upper level low breaks off and lingers over New England and then drops south behind the upper level low. This disturbance then pulls the upper level low on Wednesday night northward, thus the solution and jog north. This is a completely different way to bring this storm northward and thus I'll wait to see the other guidance first before taking this solution seriously.
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*** ALERT *** 00Z MONDAY GFS .. Once again is all by itself.. and take the MARCH 6 Low more North.. across se VA-- ( no other model does this by the way) and brings it further North by 50-75 miles... this puts heavy snow into Philly and S NJ... and Moderate snow into Philly and NY.

In short this is going to be a another disasterous Busted GFS forecasts probably along the lines that we sought with the New England blizzard back in February 8.... Hurricane sandy hurricane Isaac and hurricane Irene.

This particular run of the GFS model has NO snow for RIC....NOTHING not a flake.. NO snow for Ronaoke No snow for Lynchburg . Let me make it clear for the folks out there who have trouble holding two thoughts together once... I do not agree with this particular run of the G FS model or any of the last several runs for that matter.

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This is the second run in a row of the GFS that manages to round the corner enough to catch southern New England with precip as well, and it holds a straighter line across all of southern Penn with the decent precip instead of dropping southeast and shutting out southeastern Penn. It could be right if the blocking is a bit weaker, or it might not be. We can chalk up the NAM to being the NAM, I guess...but I hate that the Euro has been the way it is with this storm (which is what the NAM kinda looks like now). The 21z SREFs were still the most snow friendly, but you can notice the probs were tempered as you got toward NE PA. They'll probably tighten up more at 03z. All you can do is see what the rest of the 0z suite and associated ensembles do and go from there.

 

I'm ready for this thing to get into nowcasting range haha. 

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Based on what? Until they state otherwise, I still like where CTP stands on this. The GFS held serve and if the Euro begins seeing what the GFS does, it's game on for quite a few more people. I still think US 22 could end up being the line if a more northerly jog is to be had.

 

The Euro's not infallible. Model hugging one model is just as bad as hugging another.

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*** ALERT *** 00Z MONDAY GFS .. Once again is all by itself.. and take the MARCH 6 Low more North.. across se VA-- ( no other model does this by the way) and brings it further North by 50-75 miles... this puts heavy snow into Philly and S NJ... and Moderate snow into Philly and NY.

In short this is going to be a another disasterous Busted GFS forecasts probably along the lines that we sought with the New England blizzard back in February 8.... Hurricane sandy hurricane Isaac and hurricane Irene.

This particular run of the GFS model has NO snow for RIC....NOTHING not a flake.. NO snow for Ronaoke No snow for Lynchburg . Let me make it clear for the folks out there who have trouble holding two thoughts together once... I do not agree with this particular run of the G FS model or any of the last several runs for that matter.

 

So does Philly get heavy snow or moderate snow? Haha

 

I try to be objective about models, like ok the GFS is on it's own attm with its end game... but I'm not going to discount it outright. I mean speaking from first week of March climo what's the better chance of happening.. a RIC snowstorm or a solution further north that gets some of the megalopolis and SNE? 

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