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February 16th-17th Potential Winter Storm Part II


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For those losing hoping this weekend feast your eyes on Upton Long term forcast. seems some 1 is buying the Euro lock stock & barrel(storm advertised for 3 striaght days now):

 

 

THE ECMWF HAS BEENCONSISTENTLY PREDICTING A MORE SIGNIFICANT SRN STREAM LOW BEYOND THEEND OF THE FCST PERIOD THAT WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED...SO WINTERAPPEARS FAR FROM BEING OVER.
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18z GFS showing 0.25" + over Lower Hudson Valley for tonight...looks like .10 - .25 in the City..... 0.25 starts around Southern Westchester

 

18z GFS showing 0.25" + over Lower Hudson Valley for tonight...looks like .10 - .25 in the City..... 0.25 starts around Southern Westchester

 

 

HA you beat me to it, maybe we can get a couple inches... obviously depends on the temps

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For those losing hoping this weekend feast your eyes on Upton Long term forcast. seems some 1 is buying the Euro lock stock & barrel(storm advertised for 3 striaght days now):

 

 

THE ECMWF HAS BEENCONSISTENTLY PREDICTING A MORE SIGNIFICANT SRN STREAM LOW BEYOND THEEND OF THE FCST PERIOD THAT WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED...SO WINTERAPPEARS FAR FROM BEING OVER.

 

For those losing hoping this weekend feast your eyes on Upton Long term forcast. seems some 1 is buying the Euro lock stock & barrel(storm advertised for 3 striaght days now):

 

 

THE ECMWF HAS BEENCONSISTENTLY PREDICTING A MORE SIGNIFICANT SRN STREAM LOW BEYOND THEEND OF THE FCST PERIOD THAT WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED...SO WINTERAPPEARS FAR FROM BEING OVER.

 

 

Yea that storm looks much better, tons of potential!

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I definitely would not be surprised if parts of GA, SC, NC and maybe even extreme northern Florida see more snow from this than we do regarding the 2nd event. That will be interesting.

Should be an interesting storm to track, not expecting much but mabye it's worth dealing with dry if these areas can see snow. It's not very common down there.

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models have improved greatly enough to not have an error of 75 -100 miles 24 - 36 hours in advance ??? Don't think so.........100 miles further west and millions more folks are having a storm - and don't say I am forecasting that to happen but to just discount it is wrong

Does the radar look anything like Jan 2000???  Seriously, we are going to take probably the most anomalous event (outside of Mar 2001 maybe) vis a vis short term model prediction in the last 2 decades and say, "well it happened then.."  Do you know anything about statistics at all? 

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NEG NAO, on 15 Feb 2013 - 16:34, said:snapback.png

models have improved greatly enough to not have an error of 75 -100 miles 24 - 36 hours in advance ??? Don't think so.........100 miles further west and millions more folks are having a storm - and don't say I am forecasting that to happen but to just discount it is wrong

 

Does the radar look anything like Jan 2000???  Seriously, we are going to take probably the most anomalous event (outside of Mar 2001 maybe) vis a vis short term model prediction in the last 2 decades and say, "well it happened then.."  Do you know anything about statistics at all? 

you should read someones post throughly before commenting - I said "and don't say I am forecasting that to happen" so of course another one of the know it alls goes on the attack..............

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NEG NAO, on 15 Feb 2013 - 16:34, said:snapback.png

 

you should read someones post throughly before commenting - I said "and don't say I am forecasting that to happen" so of course another one of the know it alls goes on the attack..............

Why even mention it?  It's the equivalent of suggesting that the near-Earth pass of the 2012DA14 Asteroid could product an effect similar to what happened in 1908 in Siberia over somewhere in SE Asia (even though it passed a good 17,000 mi over Indonesia as predicted), because, you know it DID happen once!  Pulling out the most extreme of anomalous situations to suggest that "anything is possible" is getting old on this forum.

 

How many times has a storm developed too far off shore to affect us, correctly predicted by the models?

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Tonight's vort is looking very unimpressive, just checked out the visible satellite, water vapor, upper level wind fields and temps, radar, and surface observations/pressures out to the west (Pennsylvania Ohio Maryland western NYS) and I don't see this really getting its act together right now. Hopefully this changes over the next few hours

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Tonight's vort is looking very unimpressive, just checked out the visible satellite, water vapor, upper level wind fields and temps, radar, and surface observations/pressures out to the west (Pennsylvania Ohio Maryland western NYS) and I don't see this really getting its act together right now. Hopefully this changes over the next few hours

check out this possibility mentioned for the second half of this event

 

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-video/weekend-snowstorm-snow-accumulations/655578741001

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I think the odds for a NYC snowstorm are small because:

1) Warm advection on the back of the digging trough

2) Many vorticity maxes not getting their acts together until it passes NYC

3) Upper level difluence does not form until the storm is pass the benchmark.

4) There is a strong kicker coming in from the Pacific Northwest.

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My cousin just texted me, it is raining, all rain, up in montague, new jersey, which is in extreme northwest sussex county next to high point state park. Real bad sign for our area if it's starting as all rain up there and they have a bit of elevation. That thin band is moving this way, west to east, and it doesn't look real impressive behind the band, there is no filling in or back building echoes showing on radar behind it

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0z NAM looks like a little blizzard out on the Twin Forks from late Saturday morning thru Sunday morning. I would think ratios would be at least 15:1.         

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0z NAM looks like a little blizzard out on the Twin Forks from late Saturday morning thru Sunday morning. I would think ratios would be at least 15:1.         

 

Through 18 hours looking at the the differences at 500mb I thought it was going to come way west, thought we might even pull a miracle off, but again it seemed to lose any improvements after that

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Through 18 hours looking at the the differences at 500mb I thought it was going to come way west, thought we might even pull a miracle off, but again it seemed to lose any improvements after that

 

February 25, 1999 again?

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