ORH_wxman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yea. I don't usually get into regional wars but I have lots of friends in the NYC area and they were so whiny about missing that one storm god forbid and then they got 10" and 20" the next 2 weeks and they still acted like it was only so so because they didn't get the 50" snowpack Maryland did and it wasnt fair. They have started to think of themselves like they should always do way better then Philly south and climo says that's not the case. Yeah their avg is like 3-4" higher than IAD and a good 6-7" less than your area...they've def been lucky recently. But pretty much everyone from Philly north has been lucky recently. DC/BWI had '09-'10 but missed out on '10-'11 and got shafted in '08-'09 while PHL/NYC did near or slightly above avg. We've had a lack of El Ninos recently which is probably the leading cause along with some bad luck in Ninas and neutrals for DC/BWI. We probably have a few '99-'00 and '98-'99 type winters coming to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't mind at all that n of us get more snow on average. It's a no brainer. Forget inches and think about percentages. We're getting smoked by all directions of the compass for 2 years. That's a bitter pill. Find me the closest major location that is missing climo snow by a larger % than dca last 2 years. Florida doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The 20 inch storm they got the end of Feb. 2010 that missed us still irks me. I don't care that I had over 60 inches for the month up to that point. I wanted that storm. The Boxing Day storm goes without saying, but I'm still pissed about 12/30/2000. Those three storms make me much more bitter towards NY than I am towards Boston. Like PSU said Boston is supposed to get it NY is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The 20 inch storm they got the end of Feb. 2010 that missed us still irks me. I don't care that I had over 60 inches for the month up to that point. I wanted that storm. The Boxing Day storm goes without saying, but I'm still pissed about 12/30/2000. Those three storms make me much more bitter towards NY than I am towards Boston. Like PSU said Boston is supposed to get it NY is another story. That was a nasty storm to watch if you werent in the snow, no matter what direction you were in. I got over 2 inches of rain from that storm. Not often that NYC is getting a blizzard of 20" of snow in February while 1000 feet in interior SNE is 40F with 2"+ of rain. I have no grounds to complain with the obscene seasonal totals of the past decade or so overall, but that storm still makes me cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1551 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I tell myself the odds of having in my book 2 snowless winters in a row are extremely low. 2.2" of snow in 2 years is ridiculous. With what looks like a pretty nice setup with a +PNA- -AO/-NAO coming up in the first week of March. Something will eventually pop right? Lol. We might be drawing closer everyday towards spring but winter is not over yet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I tell myself the odds of having in my book 2 snowless winters in a row are extremely low. 2.2" of snow in 2 years is ridiculous. With what looks like a pretty nice setup with a +PNA- -AO/-NAO coming up in the first week of March. Something will eventually pop right? Lol. We might be drawing closer everyday towards spring but winter is not over yet!!! wow, I knew it was bad, but that bad? Is that at DCA? (The 2.2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think we have all handled this historic snow drought very well all things considered. It's not like we had a choice. But you're right, most people have kept their sense of humor about it. It really has been fascinating watching all the different ways we get screwed. But sooner or later there will be a surprise. Maybe Friday? Can never say definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So NAM trying to spruce something up at the end of the wrong. NICE cAD sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsukev Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Looks like a bit of freezing rain possibly. 850's look warm, but I guess that is to be expected with that ignorant GL low sitting there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 glorious purples are still over the plains. we're taking one for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1551 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 wow, I knew it was bad, but that bad? Is that at DCA? (The 2.2) My house in Manassas, Va. I measure every event and this is what I have received in 2 years and lots of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So NAM trying to spruce something up at the end of the wrong. NICE cAD sig But it's not snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So NAM trying to spruce something up at the end of the wrong. NICE cAD sig I'll preface it with the obligatory "it's the NAM", but it keeps throwing a hair more moisture into an airmass that by its own projections doesn't get above freezing until at least Saturday. I really think if we can get some precip in on Friday morning we see some snow. There's a couple of SREFS that are pretty wet. I'd like to see that become reality just to see what might happen. I've thrown caution to the wind and am just going with whatever looks the best. As Ian said, I'm numb at this point. Snow disappointment bounces off me like bullets off Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Glad I arrived in time for Ji's historic meltdown. tonight's GFS run could be JI's last without handcuffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 First time in years I actually read Ji's posts. And it was funny. I agree with WinterWX. We all know the cad will hold on a little longer than modeled. I think NW of the city sees some snow on Friday. Wont amount to anything though. As far as New England getting more snow. They are supposed to. And they get to freeze their nuts off in the spring while we are fishing and playing golf. Dont get me wrong. I love Boston. One of my favorite cities. But not a chance in hell I would live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't believe in backlash but the GFS looks a smidge interesting Sat night/sun morning. Comma head blows up over us. Not cold enough yet but close enough to wonder. Fookin lakes low. A nice vort pass and even Bob Chill won't talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Boston only gets 3 inches of liquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Boston only gets 3 inches of liquid What a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Another coastal low appears Day 6 into Day 7... and again we are too warm... annoying winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Good news is it looks like Boston mixes a bit so probably only about 2'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsukev Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Another coastal low appears Day 6 into Day 7... and again we are too warm... annoying winter And again there is a low sitting over the Great Lakes. Woo hoo for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needbiggerboat Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 March snowfalls are overrated anyway. Heavy to shovel and quickly turns into a sloppy mess. Even March 93 was mostly gone within 4-5 days in the IAD area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't believe in backlash but the GFS looks a smidge interesting Sat night/sun morning. Comma head blows up over us. Not cold enough yet but close enough to wonder. Fookin lakes low. A nice vort pass and even Bob Chill won't talk about it. I brought it up earlier today with the 12z euro. Its hard to pick out the details. Euro ran the vort through nc and off the coast. Gfs similar but temps suckier. The entire setup is a mess. My gut says here is more potential than we think. But what does that mean? T-1 on grass? Or surprise precip max of 1-3? Or zippo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 00z major nor'easter feb 28-1. For the southeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsnowlover Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 00z major nor'easter feb 28-1. For the southeast another 216 hr snowstorm that wont materialize!! This winter cannot end soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 00z major nor'easter feb 28-1. For the southeast Solutions are bouncing around 1000s of miles on the track but the signal is still there. Have to just wait until we are inside 120 before knowing if we have a shot. My gut says once the Pna pops we get 3 chances march 1-10 the last maybe the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 6z GFS obliges with a fantasy storm right in the middle of that march 1-10 window. Also, regarding the rest of that run, I may change my screen name to Great Lakes low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 00z major nor'easter feb 28-1. For the southeast Don't forget it does a fujiwara and backs into New England. We can't deprive them their birthright. Getting sloppy ji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The 26th bears watching. Low may cut far enough west to allow the 1030+hp in se Canada to go to work with the front end slug. Pretty good setup for some front end as is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The 26th bears watching. Low may cut far enough west to allow the 1030+hp in se Canada to go to work with the front end slug. Pretty good setup for some front end as is right now. So was this Friday...very similar situation. I think that is very much a risk for the Feb 29-30 event as well...Great Lakes lows are a killer in this Nina-esque pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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