Indystorm Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I've often wonder if nature is always searching for balance. Could it be that nature is trying to even things out given last March was so warm? I've always been a fan of what I call the "rubber band theory". Trouble is we don't know for sure when it will snap. In all seriousness, this is why hurricanes seek to distribute heat poleward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The March 17-23 period has been notorious for big snowstorms in our region over the years. 0z GFS continues to show a pretty strong storm around the equinox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 SnowFreak will like 177-189 on the 0z GFS! Looks like I might be good for a few inches on that run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 0Z Euro looks like fun. Low cuts through LAF at 168 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Euro also drops a major trough into the West at the end of the run, which, if it played out similar to what is currently suggested, the first trough would likely act as a moisture pump considering its track. I wouldn't rule the first trough out either for something on the warm sector side, as shown by the Euro. By the way: March, 1965 now showing up twice on the 00z GFS analog suite. The GFS ensembles in the majority had a mean trough in the West in the mid/long range, to correlate with the 00z Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I want to buy into the fun 'n games the models are showing in the extended but I am leery because of climo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDude Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 You guys are still hoping for more snow? Why not hope for some 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Another Congrats for Des Moines to SSM?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 You guys are still hoping for more snow? Why not hope for some 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Another Congrats for Des Moines to SSM?? Those UP storms are killing my wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 6z GFS looks like it wants to show record cold late in the month...too far out to believe anything, but nice to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 6z GFS looks like it wants to show record cold late in the month...too far out to believe anything, but nice to see At this point we have to hope that when we do get spring all at once. The snow pack just to the west of la crosse is pretty impressive now, and it has a whole lot of water in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 We may go from winter to summer in a week when it does flip in late May!!! This is getting colder each day (i usually check it daily)... the trend is not my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 We may go from winter to summer in a week when it does flip in late May!!! This is getting colder each day (i usually check it daily)... the trend is not my friend So you are already giving up on april and may? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Isn't there something that a cold March=cold spring? I swear i've heard that thrown around before...maybe not...i'll have to do a little investigative work and see if there is any basis in that around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChaser Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 lol at people writing off April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 AO to take a dive. Impressive. According to CPC data, here's the Marches with an average negative AO of -2 or greater. March 1957: -2.01 March 1958: -2.52 March 1962: -2.85 March 1970: -2.08 March 1984: -2.39 Temperature departures of each of those months below, using 1981-10 normals as the backdrop. If we combine all five of those years into a composite, the April map has the look of troughing in the western 1/2 of the country. Take it FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 May composite is warm though...for some. Not a perfect method at all of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Chicago-What is the deal with NOAA data...they only go back to 1948 on this page now? I swear it use to be like 1900 or even before then? http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/cgi-bin/data/composites/printpage.pl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Chicago- What is the deal with NOAA data...they only go back to 1948 on this page now? I swear it use to be like 1900 or even before then? http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/cgi-bin/data/composites/printpage.pl Back to 1871 here: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/cgi-bin/data/composites/plot20thc.day.v2.pl'>http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/cgi-bin/data/composites/plot20thc.day.v2.pl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Those years I chose were the coldest March's here..of course right now we sit at #6 (current is 24.6F)...so its going to have to stay really cold to even make the top 10... all this cloudy crap and snow is screwing us because its keeping night temps from falling off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Back to 1871 here: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/cgi-bin/data/composites/plot20thc.day.v2.pl Very nice... much better...thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 One heck of a block party going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I would have much rather had this weather in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Isn't there something that a cold March=cold spring? I swear i've heard that thrown around before...maybe not...i'll have to do a little investigative work and see if there is any basis in that around here... I've been browsing through David Ludlum's Early American Winters and apparently spring 1812 was a very backward spring. Perhaps that should be one of our analogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The good thing for folks around here who don't like cold is that average highs are creeping up on 50. With the stronger sun, it doesn't feel too terrible unless it's windy and/or way below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The good thing for folks around here who don't like cold is that average highs are creeping up on 50. With the stronger sun, it doesn't feel too terrible unless it's windy and/or way below average. Yeah, it's all relative. Plus, it's not like there isn't going to be a few warm days thrown in from time to time...but the balance through the end of the month is cooler than normal. Not like it's not manageable for the cold haters...but March 2012 this isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 lol GFS says ORD finishes with above average snowfall. Clippers on Thu night/Fri night then one or two systems after that. If the GFS is anywhere close to right with the cold air building over Canada, going to make for an impressive baroclinic zone somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I've been browsing through David Ludlum's Early American Winters and apparently spring 1812 was a very backward spring. Perhaps that should be one of our analogs? Gonna need a violent and strong volcanic eruption. Or an astroid impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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