Brian5671 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 It doesn't help that BDR is a relatively poor city. In these situations they really need the federal disaster money, and not 6 months later when some bureaucrat finally decides that it was a big enough deal to pay out. there's also a zillion cars parked on the cars--many multi family houses with limited or no driveways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 It doesn't help that BDR is a relatively poor city. In these situations they really need the federal disaster money, and not 6 months later when some bureaucrat finally decides that it was a big enough deal to pay out. Not true. They already have the disaster declaration so they'll be reimbursed 75% just like they were from Irene or Sandy. The issue is plows aren't doing jack right now. You need heavy equipment and a city like Bridgeport has 800 miles of roads. You can't equip a public works dept. with 100 front end loaders just waiting for a 1888/2013 repeat. If people want to pay for that kind of preparation than it's doable but I don't think it makes sense. Even the suburbs are having a hell of a time. My parents still can't get out of their house in Guilford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 With rates of 3-4 inches a hr and wind driven there is no keeping up with that. Snow will melt, the drivers life is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 there's also a zillion cars parked on the cars--many multi family houses with limited or no driveways.... Exactly. Not to mention using the 2/2010 analogy is ridiculous. 4 or 4 1/2 inches of liquid in a 30"-36" snowfall is just not movable with a standard plow. I'm not sure why this is hard to grasp. If Bridgeport had 100 front end loaders they'd be done... instead they have 7 or 8 and are finally getting equipment in from out of state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 The plows could not push it lol, its that simple it came down to hard and too fast, normal guys losing transmissions on driveways, town plows breaking and not nearly enough loaders and trucks. Tubes is the man but way off here. To the sw totally different story, I was closing my eyes the last couple days going to clear out folks in darien greenwich and norwalk, completely different storm for them, it was like a line as soon as you hit exit 18 northbound, the snow was doubled almost..............I have never seen a synoptic snow gradient like that before in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I am still amazed there are streets that are not plowed! We had 27-28 inches here, and roads were open by 8am Sat. Now Woodstock may not have the population of some of these other communities, but for a town almost 60 square miles our DPW crew did a fantastic job. I went to my office in Middletown/Cromwell on Monday and road to the office (normally 4 lanes) was only 1 lane! What an outrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 With rates of 3-4 inches a hr and wind driven there is no keeping up with that. Snow will melt, the drivers life is more important. You can't completely keep up, but you can make a dent plowing during the storm. That way regular plows, instead of front-end loaders, can clear the streets. And this storm was basically over for CT by early Saturday morning. They had all of Sunday to clean before schools and businesses would reopen. It just seems like the towns in CT are always cancelling school for multiple days for weather events...Oct 2011, Feb 2013, etc. I'm not saying it's always unwarranted to cancel school...I'm a teacher and I love snow days and appreciate children's safety. But I do think it's time to go back from this one. They're going to chip deep into summer/vacation etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 So stoked school is open tomorrow but just got an email asking parents to carpool kids in since visibility is limited due to the very high snow banks and lack of sidewalks. Nightmare for buses. Anyhoo..............more snow on the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Youve already said Ct are idiots and can't handle anything You and Will made your thoughts on CT very clear That has nothing to do with the state, Cities cannot handle 3' of cement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You can't completely keep up, but you can make a dent plowing during the storm. That way regular plows, instead of front-end loaders, can clear the streets. And this storm was basically over for CT by early Saturday morning. They had all of Sunday to clean before schools and businesses would reopen. It just seems like the towns in CT are always cancelling school for multiple days for weather events...Oct 2011, Feb 2013, etc. I'm not saying it's always unwarranted to cancel school...I'm a teacher and I love snow days and appreciate children's safety. But I do think it's time to go back from this one. They're going to chip deep into summer/vacation etc... Nate the trucks could not get down the streets the next day. You need to cut in with that amount of snow. But with cars on both sides you need loaders. Plus room for the snow, which in the city's there is none. You need dump trucks for each street, and place to dump snow. With visibility so low, they could have stayed out all night and still be sitting here with the same problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinch1989 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm seriously considering taking a ride up. Have loader and v-plow ready to go. You should...I have made hundreds of extra dollars by being waved down from people that just cant shovel or blow anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 When did S Ct snow turn powdery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 You should...I have made hundreds of extra dollars by being waved down from people that just cant shovel or blow anymore... Enjoy it man. Be safe, looks like the fisher is doing well. Switch to a Xv in 2010, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Closing schools for multiple days due to a weekend snowstorm seems absolutely ridiculous to me. Even having Monday off was pushing it, but 3 days for a storm that hit Friday night? What wusses we've become... School doesn't need to be closed unless there's actually snow-covered roads or widespread power outages. Neither of those is the case anymore. This is silly. LOL my thoughts exactly. I can't believe schools would be closed on a Wednesday for a storm that mostly hit on a Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 You can't completely keep up, but you can make a dent plowing during the storm. That way regular plows, instead of front-end loaders, can clear the streets. And this storm was basically over for CT by early Saturday morning. They had all of Sunday to clean before schools and businesses would reopen. It just seems like the towns in CT are always cancelling school for multiple days for weather events...Oct 2011, Feb 2013, etc. I'm not saying it's always unwarranted to cancel school...I'm a teacher and I love snow days and appreciate children's safety. But I do think it's time to go back from this one. They're going to chip deep into summer/vacation etc... I don't think in 4"-6" per hour snows and 45 mph winds it's a good idea to have trucks on streets littered with cars. And as for Oct 2011... what should they have done... had school by candle light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Tubes it took me four hours to just dig out, then another 3 to clear the crap the town plowed later that day and then the final plow that came through yesterday that put up a wall of cement 5 ft deep and thick. After Sandy the last thing they wanted to do was not have school, but it was not as simple as plowing the post road was one lane until Monday am, the snow has to be removed and it was a tedious process. We all cant be efficient as Dobbs Ferry:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 When did S Ct snow turn powdery? Like never lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not sure the argument here. Are you saying 26" of fluff is the same as 36" of cement? It gets exponentially more difficult to remove snow above 18" or so..and even moreso with wet snow. Even here, I did not see one pickup truck plow are streets. All done with heavy equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 snow envy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I am still amazed there are streets that are not plowed! We had 27-28 inches here, and roads were open by 8am Sat. Now Woodstock may not have the population of some of these other communities, but for a town almost 60 square miles our DPW crew did a fantastic job. I went to my office in Middletown/Cromwell on Monday and road to the office (normally 4 lanes) was only 1 lane! What an outrage It is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 When did S Ct snow turn powdery? there was some powder on top maybe the last 6 inches at least here, a bit further west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 It's just different in the cities, there is nowhere to put the snow. Unlike bedroom villages of Stowe and Dobbs Ferry...what do you do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Like never lolReally wow? So it was 31-32 for all the snow? I was in the upper teens . I thought they got cold mid storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 That has nothing to do with the state, Cities cannot handle 3' of cement. 3 feet of cement... no matter where it happens... becomes a disaster. There's just nothing you can do. If you want to pay 100 full time people to operate 100 payloaders and have them at the standby for a storm that hits once a century you'd be in much better shape. But short of that... don't know what the answer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 It's just different in the cities, there is nowhere to put the snow. Unlike bedroom villages of Stowe and Dobbs Ferry...what do you do with it? And in Stowe were they have the most advance snow removal equipment to date, and get 300 inches a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Really wow? So it was 31-32 for all the snow? I was in the upper teens . I thought they got cold mid storm At one point they were ripping +SN parachutes and graupel at like 25F in HVN lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinch1989 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Enjoy it man. Be safe, looks like the fisher is doing well. Switch to a Xv in 2010, love it. I need a V for this storm! I've been struggling so bad even with a F250 7.3 powerstroke...8' on the front and 1k ballast in the rear... I may as well be plowing with a Jeep! I've been stuck countless times, I just leave the tow strap hooked to the back now and throw in the bed when I am done. I've pulled cars out of the snow, plowed city streets, and gave tons of freebie/favor plows...happy to do it really. A Storm like this puts weenies in a good mood for a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 3 feet of cement... no matter where it happens... becomes a disaster. There's just nothing you can do. If you want to pay 100 full time people to operate 100 payloaders and have them at the standby for a storm that hits once a century you'd be in much better shape. But short of that... don't know what the answer is. There isn't. You just have to deal with it, plan as best as you can for next time..and move on. I agree with you guys on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 At one point they were ripping +SN parachutes and graupel at like 25F in HVN lol Notice Kevin cannot except they got more than him. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 At one point they were ripping +SN parachutes and graupel at like 25F in HVN lol We had almost two hours of parachutes and styro balls.............funny thing was even the dip n dots were accumulating well but added so much weight to the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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