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Feb 17/18 Storm Threat - Discussion


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LOL-JB is going 4-8 for NYC area and blizzard for rest of NE and Long Island....says there will be blizzards warnings up for 2 storms in 2 weeks (one being the 30 incher we just had)

Typical JB, take what he says and cut it in half, probably a good starting point. Think this is 2-4" here, but the good stuff is going to be east.

-skisheep

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Gonna be a lot of folks surprised how much snow they get tomorrow nite way west. Even Mpm and LL. this really has that look

It really does not, MPM will do just fine..........after last week I like a Euro/NAM blend gfs is just a useless model and should be tossed every single time.

 

I think you can pull out a low end advisory Kev!

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It really does not, MPM will do just fine..........after last week I like a Euro/NAM blend gfs is just a useless model and should be tossed every single time.

 

I think you can pull out a low end advisory Kev!

I'm more inclined to toss the NAM and blend EURO/GFS, NAM seems to be totally all over the place with this system and has bounced around, toss it and the GGEM(the western outlier), and blend EURO/GFS for 2-4"

-skisheep

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like the look for eastern sections. looking forward to the 12z runs to see if there can be a bit more model convergence. 

Just got a look at the 00z GFS.  Nice banding signal for SE MA/ CC.  GGEM rips us a new one.  Sort of surprised to see the Ukie drop off but it looks like it's an Eastern outlier. 00z Euro is nice event.  What did the Euro Ensm show?

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Just got a look at the 00z GFS.  Nice banding signal for SE MA/ CC.  GGEM rips us a new one.  Sort of surprised to see the Ukie drop off but it looks like it's an Eastern outlier. 00z Euro is nice event.  What did the Euro Ensm show?

 

They were a bit west of the op, but could not see QPF. Precip probs favored TOL east, esp here.

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Right on..........good luck.

Good luck to us all, may we all see blizzard warnings and 100 inches! :)

 

Was the data from the flights ingested into 0z last night, or is it for 12z today. I'm pretty sure that it's for 12z today, which should clear up some of the ambiguity that the models have been showing. I think in the end we see the EURO come west a bit and the GGEM east, something 0z GFS like with low end advisory down here and warning from about the CT/RI border east is probably a decent compromise.

-skisheep

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EURO is .23 for NYC according to NYC forum, so probably about .25" here or so. Blending that and the GFS is a low end advisory event for here, which is encouraging. Thought that the EURO was much lower than that, so being in the advisory range with more trending to potentially come is not a bad place to be.

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Thanks.  Supports the idea of a more amplified solution.  As Phil said, this 12z run should hopefully bring a narrowing of the models.

 

Hopefully the 00z runs come back. Like I said yesterday, this is a powderkeg H5 setup...but little nuances will have a big effect on a precip shield that is oriented N-S. You saw what a stupid kink in the height field did to the 18z runs when I posted those H5 vorticity charts. I like the overall setup.

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