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February 13/14 VD Storm discussion


Bostonseminole

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NAM goes from high end advisory(4-6") down here to flurries. Is it the NAM being the NAM, or is it onto something? The fact that it's had it for days now, and is now loosing it, makes me worry. if the GFS trends south i'm inclined to buy the NAM, otherwise it's the NAM being the NAM. Still not what I want to see 2 days out.

-skisheep

 

It's BAAAAHHHHHHDDDDDD.

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I like the nam depending on the situation, but I never look at it outside of 48 hours.  You all could have saved yourselves some false hope.  gfs was inconsistent, Euro wasn't biting, how do you hang your hat on the nam at 60+ hrs?

Not only the GFS, but the GGEM, the GEM, the CMC, the UKIE, and the RGEM(extrapolating), are hits for us. That's more than false hope, and the EURO is not god, although it is a great model, and i'm not convinced until it's onboard for something at least, saying that this threat was false hope is pushing it I think.

-skisheep

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Not only the GFS, but the GGEM, the GEM, the CMC, the UKIE, and the RGEM(extrapolating), are hits for us. That's more than false hope, and the EURO is not god, although it is a great model, and i'm not convinced until it's onboard for something at least, saying that this threat was false hope is pushing it I think.

-skisheep

What are you talking about.  The other models showed scrapers at best.  The nam was the oultlier.  Just because the Ukie came a tad north at 12z, that gives credence to the nam?   That's wishcasting and not forecasting-with all due respect.  If anything, it looks to me that the 0z nam is coming into consensus with the other models.

 

Edit-'cause I just realized you were down in Stamford--If by hits, you mean 1-2", then you are correct.  nam was the only bringing warning snows.  Upton way too aggressive.

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What are you talking about. The other models showed scrapers at best. The nam was the oultlier. Just because the Ukie came a tad north at 12z, that gives credence to the nam? That's wishcasting and not forecasting-with all due respect. If anything, it looks to me that the 0z nam is coming into consensus with the other models.

Edit-'cause I just realized you were down in Stamford--If by hits, you mean 1-2", then you are correct. nam was the only bringing warning snows. Upton way too aggressive.

To be fair the gem and gfs give us warning snows as well, euro borderline advisory as well as srefs.
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Still better than the 12z gfs. I really have a hard time believing anything in the off hour runs this far out. If it was inside 36 or even 24 hours I'd give it more attention, but new data is where it's at with these models.

 

 

This is not an off hour run, Which i am sure you know

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Meh, so we probably had the typical NCEP amped guidance package today.  As Will said heading to consensus.  Reminds me of how the first storm in the pattern change played out.  

 

I'd be excited if I lived on the Islands more, Long, Block, Elizabeths, Marthas and Nantucket. 

 

 

Yeah its getting the boot, It would be better if the Northern s/w was non exisistant

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