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February 6-8th Great Lakes Wintry Storm Part 2


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anyone looking for lolz check out some of the 1 hr snowfall totals the HRRR busts out later this evening

The reason it does this is due to a moist neutral/weakly unstable layer from 700 to 500mb, right across the DGZ. The RAP and NAM show this unstable/neutral layer for quite some time this afternoon and evening.

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The reason it does this is due to a moist neutral/weakly unstable layer from 700 to 500mb, right across the DGZ. The RAP and NAM show this unstable/neutral layer for quite some time this afternoon and evening.

 

 

Thanks.  Really hoping we can cool down in time...confidence is increasing somewhat.

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ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: DTW    LAT=  42.23 LON=  -83.33 ELE=   663

 

                                            12Z FEB07

                 2 M     850     SFC     SFC     700    6 HR     500    1000 

                 TMP     TMP     PRS     RHU     RHU     QPF     HGT     500 

                 ©     ©    (MB)    (PCT)   (PCT)   (IN)    (DM)     THK 

 

FRI 00Z 08-FEB  -2.2    -0.4    1017      77      62    0.00     553     539    

FRI 06Z 08-FEB  -0.8    -0.7    1013      90     100    0.05     549     539    

FRI 12Z 08-FEB  -1.3    -3.0    1011      93      93    0.30     542     534    

FRI 18Z 08-FEB  -3.3    -6.7    1017      78      93    0.11     539     525    

SAT 00Z 09-FEB  -5.5    -7.5    1025      78      10    0.00     543     523    

SAT 06Z 09-FEB  -6.6    -6.6    1028      81      15    0.00     547     526    

 

Still looking good for Detroit..!

The euro has never wavered on its all snow scenario...lets hope its correct. At the very least DTW should break the 30" mark tonight.
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Lol I doubt it, though I think u kinda want it to be liquid for us. I am definitely expecting a mix at first. DTX sounds very on top of things. Saod freezing rain and sleet at onset turning to heavy snow.

 

 

Remember the moisture moves out quickly. So if you lose 2-3 hrs with FRZ Rain/Sleet/Rain. There goes 40-50% of your snow totals. 

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been getting some good updates from LOT
 

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
106 PM CST THU FEB 7 2013

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION

106 PM CST

WE HAVE OPTED TO UPGRADE LAKE AND MCHENRY COUNTIES TO A WINTER
STORM WARNING. SHORT TERM GUIDANCE AND RADAR TRENDS CONTINUES TO
INDICATE HEAVY SNOW RATES IN ACROSS LAKE AND MCHENRY COUNTIES. WE
HAVE HAD REPORTS OF UP TO 2 INCHES IN BEACH PARK WITHIN A COUPLE
HOURS.

A RATHER IMPRESSIVE SHORT WAVE...CURRENTLY DIGGING SOUTHEAST ACROSS
EASTERN NEBRASKA AND INTO WESTERN IOWA...WILL LINK UP WITH A
STRENGTHENING BAND OF MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AND NEGATIVE EPV TO
RESULT IN A BAND OF VERY HEAVY SNOW ACROSS NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS
THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. THE RAIN SHOULD BEGIN TO QUICKLY TRANSITION TO
SNOW ACROSS THE CHICAGO AREA...MAINLY ALONG AND NORTH OF THE
INTERSTATE 80 CORRIDOR BY MID AFTERNOON AS COLUMN COOL OCCURS IN
RESPONSE TO THE STRONG FRONTOGENETIC CIRCULATION. SOME OF THE LAST
AMDAR SOUNDINGS OUT OF ORD AND MDW...ONLY INDICATE A MAX TEMP OF
AROUND +1 AROUND 946 MB. SO IT WILL NOT TAKE MUCH TO TIP THE SCALES
IN FAVOR FOR SNOW. ONCE THE SNOW STARTS EXPECT HEAVY SNOW UP TO AN
INCH PER HOUR AT TIMES THROUGH THE EVENING COMMUTE.
LESSER AMOUNTS
OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED FARTHER SOUTH TOWARDS THE I 80 CORRIDOR.
HOWEVER...IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME TO CHANGE OVER THIS FAR SOUTH...THUS
1 TO 3 INCHES ARE STILL POSSIBLE IN THIS AREA AS WELL INTO THE
EVENING.   
 

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Remember the moisture moves out quickly. So if you lose 2-3 hrs with FRZ Rain/Sleet/Rain. There goes 40-50% of your snow totals. 

What concerns me is the amount of freezing rain. If the RAP had its way, we'd be covered in ice. Not very good for the morning commute. Even a tenth wouldn't be good.

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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED  NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MILWAUKEE/SULLIVAN WI  103 PM CST THU FEB 7 2013      UPDATE    ALL MIXED PRECIP CHANGED OVER TO ALL SNOW LATE THIS MORNING. THIS   TRANSITION WAS CLEARLY EVIDENT ON THE CORRELATION COEFFICIENT   PRODUCT OF THE MKX DUAL POL RADAR. THERE IS ALSO A FAIRLY CLEAR   SIGNATURE ON THE ZDR PRODUCT AS WELL...GOING FROM HIGH ZDR IN THE   MIXY PRECIP TO LOW ZDR IN THE SNOW AREAS.     EXPECT SNOW TO ACCUMULATE EFFICIENTLY AND STEADILY IN SOUTHEAST WI   THROUGH 6 PM. KENOSHA IS REPORTING 1/4 MILE VISIBILITY AND THEY ARE   UNDER A HEAVY BAND OF REFLECTIVITY. THERE WAS A REPORT OF ONE INCH   ACCUMULATION ON THE GROUND IN THE LAST HOUR.     LATEST MODEL CONSENSUS INCLUDING MESOSCALE MODELS SUGGEST A HALF   INCH OF QPF IN THE 18-00Z TIME PERIOD THIS AFTERNOON. LATEST NAM   COBB SNOW RATIOS SUGGEST SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATIOS UP TO 15:1. WITH   THICKNESSES SUGGESTING 10:1...COMPROMISED WITH ROUGHLY 12:1 RATIOS.     INCREASED SNOW AMOUNTS IN SOUTHEAST WI DUE TO THE HIGHER QPF AND   SNOW RATIOS. EXPECTING AROUND 6 INCHES ACCUM IN SOUTHEAST WI FROM   NOON TO 6 PM AND ANOTHER INCH OR TWO BEFORE THE SNOW ENDS OVERNIGHT.   NEW STORM TOTAL IS NOW 7 TO 9 INCHES FOR SOUTHERN MILWAUKEE AND   WAUKESHA COUNTIES...EASTERN WALWORTH COUNTY...AND RACINE AND KENOSHA   COUNTIES. DEBATED ABOUT ADDING ROCK COUNTY BACK INTO THE WINTER   STORM WARNING WITH SNOWFALL TOTALS UP TO 7 INCHES POSSIBLE IN THE   FAR EAST PORTION OF THE COUNTY...BUT OPTED NOT TO AT THIS TIME.     THE AXIS OF HIGH QPF ASSOCIATED WITH 850-700MB FRONTOGENESIS WILL   PIVOT ACROSS SOUTHEAST WI AND FAR NORTHEAST IL THIS AFTERNOON AS THE   SURFACE LOW IN WESTERN IL INTENSIFIES AND MOVES INTO EAST CENTRAL   IL...RIGHT AS THE 500MB TROUGH DIGS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST AND   COINCIDES WITH A VORT MAX ROLLING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO   NORTHERN IL...AND THERE IS STRONG UPPER DIVERGENCE WITHIN THE   ENTRANCE REGION OF THE UPPER JET RIGHT OVER SOUTHERN WI. IN   ADDITION...A BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS AT 600MB IN THE DEFORMATION ZONE   /ALSO IN THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE/ WILL PIVOT ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST   HALF OF WI THROUGH THE EARLY EVENING WHICH WILL KEEP THE SNOW   ACCUMULATING.   
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