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February 8th-9th Potential Bomb Part III


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Just a thought: Upton starting the blizzard warning at 6am would give Bloomberg more of a reason to cancel school and keep people from going to work. Call it activist or call it being over-cautious or call it bullish, I dont think blizzard conditions would really kick in until 6 PM rather than 6 AM. That being said, I approve of them going with 6am just to get everyone off the roads and out of work if they dont need to be.

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Just a thought: Upton starting the blizzard warning at 6am would give Bloomberg more of a reason to cancel school and keep people from going to work. Call it activist or call it being over-cautious or call it bullish, I dont think blizzard conditions would really kick in until 6 PM rather than 6 AM. That being said, I approve of them going with 6am just to get everyone off the roads and out of work if they dont need to be.

you may be right but I would think by 1-2pm its coming down hard in and around nyc. Wouldn't be safe for kids

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You must not be paying very good attention, Mt. Holly has had warnings out since 3:30. At least know what you're talking about before trashing them.

I think he was referring to blizzard warnings. Places like Perth amboy oldbridge, sayreville are all within 10-15 miles of staten island.

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Just a thought: Upton starting the blizzard warning at 6am would give Bloomberg more of a reason to cancel school and keep people from going to work. Call it activist or call it being over-cautious or call it bullish, I dont think blizzard conditions would really kick in until 6 PM rather than 6 AM. That being said, I approve of them going with 6am just to get everyone off the roads and out of work if they dont need to be.

It's a safety play.

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Hey guys I posted a question earlier and no one responded so here it is again, I unfortunately am taking a 11am flight out of JFK. I am going on American which is apt to cancel flights with little or no real reason or safety issue. Do you think I am right to assume it will be cancelled also because of the 5am blizzard warning?

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MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION NWS OCEAN PREDICTION CENTER WASHINGTON DC230 PM EST THU 7 FEB 2013 .FORECAST DISCUSSION: MAJOR FEATURES/WINDS/SEAS/SIGNIFICANT .WEATHER FOR NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN W OF 50W FROM 30N TO 50N. 1430Z HI RES ASCAT OVERPASS INDICATED A FEW 25 KT RETURNS ABOUT 120 NM SE OF CAPE FEAR...AND THESE E TO SE WINDS SHUD CONTINUE TO INCREASE TO GALE FROM ALL THE WAY UP TO NEARLY CAPE CHARLES THIS EVENING AND OVERNGT. ALBEIT SMALLER DIFFERENCES THAT 24 TO 48HRS AGO...THERE REMAIN SOME BETWEEN 12Z MDLS WITH RESPECT TO TRACK AND INTENSITY OF COASTAL CYCLONE OVER NEXT FEW DAYS. THERE WERE DROPSONDES RELEASED FROM RECON AIRCRAFT OVER GLF OF MEXICO LAST NIGHT AND WILL CONTINUE TDA/TNGT OFF SE COAST. WITH RESPECT TO ITS PREVIOUS TWO RUNS THE 12Z GFS EVER SO SLIGHTLY NUDGED TRACK N AND NW. ALSO NAM IS NOW WRN MOST SOLUTION...WHILE 12Z ECMWF WAS FAIRLY CONSISTENT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE FAVORED SOLUTION. ALSO 12Z UKMET TRENDED NW TOWARD MDL CONSENSUS AND ITS RUNS YESTERDAY. 12Z 25KM ECMWF AND NOW THE EMSL FIELD OFF THE 12Z GFS BOTH RAPIDLY INTENSIFY CYCLONE FRI INTO EARLY SAT AND INDICATE CNTRL PRES IN LOW 970'S NEAR GEORGES BANK BY SAT MORNING. THERE WAS BEEN A GENERAL STRENGTHENING TREND AMONG MDLS OVER LAST FEW CYCLES. ALREADY BUMPED UP HUDSON TO BALT AND BALT TO HATTERAS CNYNS TO STORM WRNGS...AND WILL FURTHER BUMP UP THESE STORM FORCE WINDS BY 5 TO 10 KT. 12Z GFS BNDRY LAYER WINDS SHOWS 75 KT MAX JUST E OF NANTUCKET/CAPE COD EARLY SAT...WHICH EVEN MAY EVEN BE UNDERDONE AS COULD LIKELY SEE 925 MB WINDS MIXING TO SFC. WILL ALSO BE BUMPING UP THE HURCN FORCE WINDS FROM PREVIOUSLY FORECAST 65 KT. OTHERWISE WILL NOT BE MAKING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FROM PREVIUOS NT1/NT2 FORECASTS THRU DAY3. 12Z GFS/ECMWF/UKMET WERE ALL IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH MOVING RIDGE OFFSHORE SUN AND ALSO WERE FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH TIMING OF COLD FRONT MON. AND WILL MAINTAIN THE PREVIOUSLY FORECAST PRE FRNTL GALES OVER BALT TO HATTERAS CNYNS AS WELL AS BALT CNYN TO HAGUE LINE WATERS. BY TUE NON GFS GLBL MDLS MOVE COLD FRNT JUST SE OF MID ATLC WATERS WHILE 12Z GFS BRINGS SHARP UPPER SHRTWV JUST E OF MID/SRN MS VALLEY LATE TUE...AND DVLPG SFC LOW TOWARD CAROLINA COAST RESULTING IN MUCH STRONG TO GALE SW WINDS S OF HATTERAS CNYN. AM FAVORING THE WEAKER MDL CONSENSUS.    12Z MULTIGRID WAVEWATCH III WAS AGAIN SLIGHTLY HIGHER WITH SIG WV HGTS FROM ITS PREVIOUS RUN MAINLY IN AREAS OF STRONGEST WINDS NEW ENGL/NRN MID ATLC WATERS FRI NGT INTO SAT NGT. BASED ON PERFORMANCE OF MWW3 IN SIMILIAR PREVIOUS EVENTS...WILL BE BUMPING UP THESE VALUES BY AT LEAST 15 TO 20 PERCENT. AS MWW3 HAS CONSITENTLY BEEN TRENDING HIER THE 12Z ECMWF WAVE MDL IS ONLY SLIGHTLY HIER THAN 12Z MWW3 NOW. OVER ABOVE WATERS MAY GO AS HIGH AS WAVEWATCH III ENSEMBLE MAX SIG WV HGT...THAT IS AROUND 40 FT..EXTRATROPICAL STORM SURGE GUIDANCE...THERE IS BETTER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE 12Z ESTOFS AND 12Z ETSS SURGE HGTS...WITH MAXES ONLY A FEW TENTHS FT OFF...ESTOFS HIGHER. WITH THE THOUGHT THAT WILL LIKELY SEE 925MB WINDS MIXING TO SFC POLEWARD OF OCCLUSION INCLUDING BENT BACK PORTION...THAT THESE MDLS ARE RUN OFF THE GFS 10M WINDS...AND WITH PREFERENCE FOR ECMWF TRACK WHICH IS SLIGHTLY CLOSER TO COAST...THESE SURGE VALUES ARE UNDERDONE. .WARNINGS/FORECAST CONFIDENCE...PRELIMINARY. ANY CHANGES WILL BE COORDINATED THROUGH AWIPS 12 PLANET CHAT OR BY TELEPHONE: 

 

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Hey guys I posted a question earlier and no one responded so here it is again, I unfortunately am taking a 11am flight out of JFK. I am going on American which is apt to cancel flights with little or no real reason or safety issue. Do you think I am right to assume it will be cancelled also because of the 5am blizzard warning?

 

Possibly, but we don't work for American so we can't answer that. Why don't you call them? 

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I am actually a bit surprised Mt.Holly didn't go a bit higher on accumulations for my area, I am just south or the Union Co. border and right across from Richmond Co. NY, they are still holding at 6-10" but like I mentioned in a previous post I think that will certainly go up.

I'm surprised they didn't raise totals as well based on the Euro and NAM but maybe they are counting on more mixing issues than what most models are currently showing, or they are waiting for the GFS to come completely on board.  Counties just to our north are under WSW for 10-16 inches.  If models hold serve tonight I think our totals will almost definitely go up as well.

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