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February 8th Potential Bomb Part II


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Long Island still looks like it will still change over to rain during the mid morning period Friday and last thru the mid aft period Friday before changing back over to snow after hr 48. This will hold down accumulation for the Island.  

 

Hr 42

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen_grbsnd.cgi?id=kfrg&mo=gfs_avn_us&pl=out4&ft=h42&cu=latest&pt=parcel&size=640x480

 

Hr 48

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen_grbsnd.cgi?id=kfrg&mo=gfs_avn_us&pl=out4&ft=h48&cu=latest&pt=parcel&size=640x480

I wonder how much accums would be held down by that period of mixing/rain. On 1/27/11 some of the heaviest totals were in areas that had sleet/mix. I personally had thunder sleet before a ridiculous change to snow that dumped 3-4" per hour that night. But before that we all had 3-4" of initial snow-hopefully the initial cold can be more stubborn due to the CAD and that works out.

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Lets look at the 500mb setup here. We have a roll over ridge in the plains, two vigorous shortwaves in the northern and southern streams, and a large high to our north. What is the main feature here that is going go allow the flow to slow down just enough and phase? Could we say the confluence to our north is acting like a block ?

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Lets look at the 500mb setup here. We have a roll over ridge in the plains, two vigorous shortwaves in the northern and southern streams, and a large high to our north. What is the main feature here that is going go allow the flow to slow down just enough and phase? Could we say the confluence to our north is acting like a block ?

It's that and the potential energy from the Southern S/W.

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Lets look at the 500mb setup here. We have a roll over ridge in the plains, two vigorous shortwaves in the northern and southern streams, and a large high to our north. What is the main feature here that is going go allow the flow to slow down just enough and phase? Could we say the confluence to our north is acting like a block ?

in a way i guess. I mean if the confluence was absent that northern stream s/w would for sure amplify and head way north of the area, not even allowing the thought of a phase with a southern stream s/w

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i think th e18z gfs is about as close to a best case scenario for most of the area,in response to the person who mention  that the storm may not be done trending.  we still have a rain issue, and a mediocre pattern, without great blocking, it cant get any better than this, IMO.

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I wonder how much accums would be held down by that period of mixing/rain. On 1/27/11 some of the heaviest totals were in areas that had sleet/mix. I personally had thunder sleet before a ridiculous change to snow that dumped 3-4" per hour that night. But before that we all had 3-4" of initial snow-hopefully the initial cold can be more stubborn due to the CAD and that works out.

I am not sold on the CAD. Text output puts LI with an east wind from 0Z Fri to 18Z Fri. The warmer ocean waters can erode that llv cold air away quickly.

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The 18z 500 mb and surface low placement looks identical to the 12z on the GFS so I am not

sure why the shift west with more precip. 

 

 

Because the southern stream was stronger and slower, allowing for more moisture, and a cleaner phase further south. The cleaner phase helped to expand the precip further west. 

 

Plus, the huge change is that since the phase occurred earlier, the storm occludes earlier. Because of this, the closed 500mb low actually stalls and drifts east from hours 60 to 63 on this run as opposed to going northeast from hours 66 to 69 on the 12z GFS. Thus, at 63 hours on the 18z, the 500mb low is further south than it was at 69 hours on the 12z. This shifts the heaviest QPF to the southwest. 

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