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February 8th Potential Bomb Part II


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euro gives 6-10 for NYC more northern parts. GFS is 4-8. WHat exactly are you looking at. And I assume you disagree with upton too? BTW not saying I agree or that I think were going to see a foot, but this is what is being depicted as of this aftn. And I see you changed your original post to 7in. Im not sure who in here is saying anything more than that AT THIS JUNCTURE. 

The Euro dos not give NYC 6-10" 

 

BK/SI are in the 3-6" range, BX & N Queens are in the 6-8" range. 

 

Uptons new map look to be agreeing with the Euro. Pretty much 6-7" citywide with more NW & NE of the city.. Pretty much my thinking all along

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

350 PM EST WED FEB 6 2013

...A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA

FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY...

.LOW PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP NEAR THE CAROLINA COAST

LATE THURSDAY, THEN TRACK NORTHEASTWARD WHILE RAPIDLY INTENSIFYING

THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. THIS BRINGS THE STORM TRACK TO OUR EAST,

WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL.

NJZ001-007>010-012>015-PAZ054-055-062-071000-

/O.NEW.KPHI.WS.A.0002.130208T1800Z-130209T1200Z/

SUSSEX-WARREN-MORRIS-HUNTERDON-SOMERSET-MIDDLESEX-

WESTERN MONMOUTH-EASTERN MONMOUTH-MERCER-CARBON-MONROE-

NORTHAMPTON-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEWTON...WASHINGTON...MORRISTOWN...

FLEMINGTON...SOMERVILLE...NEW BRUNSWICK...FREEHOLD...SANDY HOOK...

TRENTON...JIM THORPE...STROUDSBURG...BETHLEHEM...EASTON

350 PM EST WED FEB 6 2013

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH

SATURDAY MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER

STORM WATCH, WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH

SATURDAY MORNING.

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY SNOW. THE SNOW SHOULD MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO

SLEET AND RAIN FOR A TIME ACROSS AT LEAST PORTIONS OF THE AREA.

* ACCUMULATIONS...5 TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW POSSIBLE. THE HIGHEST

AMOUNTS MAINLY TOWARD NORTHWESTERN NEW JERSEY INTO THE POCONOS.

* TIMING...SNOW SHOULD DEVELOP FRIDAY MORNING, THEN IT SHOULD MIX

WITH OR CHANGE TO SOME SLEET AND RAIN FROM SOUTHEAST TO

NORTHWEST. THE SNOW COULD BE HEAVY AT TIMES LATER FRIDAY

AFTERNOON AND FRIDAY NIGHT. ANY RAIN OR MIXED PRECIPITATION IS

EXPECTED TO CHANGE TO SNOW FRIDAY NIGHT BEFORE ENDING EARLY

SATURDAY MORNING.

* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS INCLUDING GREATLY REDUCED

VISIBILITIES.

* WINDS...NORTH 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT

SNOW, SLEET, OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE

TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

&&

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GORSE

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Part of the reason this run may be off from others is the idea that Dsnowx53 has been saying all along....convection associated with the southern shortwave.

 

Just take a look at the actual radar (3:08) vs. the NAM simulated radar (4:00)

 

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The simulated radar has no strong convection (>35 dbZ), whereas in reality there are strong storms with >50 dbZ signals throughout the GOM. 

Great catch guys!

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snywx I will not argue with you over inches of snow. You're wrong about basically everything you've said. The argument ends here; the 3 in line on the euro is way down in central/southern NJ. That means over SI and BK its like 5 inches and near 10 inches in northern bronx. So 5-10 for the NYC metro area. As the upton map shows. 

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but yet their AFD has much lower amounts....2-4 for NYC and 8-12 out far east-they will not be issuing watches this pm either

first off, afd is from 117. Second of all they just updated their snow amounts, so obv they dont think 2-4 for NYC anymore. Also, twcman was in a webinar with them around 130 and they said high probability of wsw with their afternoon package.

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first off, afd is from 117. Second of all they just updated their snow amounts, so obv they dont think 2-4 for NYC anymore. Also, twcman was in a webinar with them around 130 and they said high probability of wsw with their afternoon package.

you are right...my bad.  4pm update is pending...would think they go with WSW's now...

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The Southern stream energy is stronger and the Euro sees that . Thats where the difference is .If the Southern branch is stronger , it closes off faster and you get a deeper storm - ala Euro and better CCB ala - Euro , so thats prob  the error .

The Euro ensembles ticked west , which gives me solice that it doesn`t kick it further east at 0z .

 

But the NAM at 54 hrs isnt exactly in  its sniper range , I wouldnt use the Euro control either , so I am being fair , but 12 hours ago the  NAMs 6z   had the storm headed towards  Bermuda . It just caught the track today , tomorrow it may figure out the Southern branch is where the main focus should be not the northern SW .

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snywx I will not argue with you over inches of snow. You're wrong about basically everything you've said. The argument ends here; the 3 in line on the euro is way down in central/southern NJ. That means over SI and BK its like 5 inches and near 10 inches in northern bronx. So 5-10 for the NYC metro area. As the upton map shows. 

 

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like I said 3-6 for SI & BK..

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY

401 PM EST WED FEB 6 2013

...SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT

INTO SATURDAY MORNING...

NJZ004-103>105-NYZ071-070515-

/O.NEW.KOKX.WS.A.0001.130208T1800Z-130209T1800Z/

EASTERN PASSAIC-WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-

SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-

401 PM EST WED FEB 6 2013

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH

SATURDAY AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM

WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY

AFTERNOON.

* LOCATIONS...NORTHEASTERN NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER.

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY SNOW...SLEET...AND FREEZING RAIN.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 6 TO 12 INCHES...ALONG

WITH UP TO A QUARTER OF AN INCH OF ICE.

* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S.

* VISIBILITIES...ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS AT TIMES.

* TIMING...FRIDAY AFTERNOON INTO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.

* IMPACTS...HEAVY SNOW AND FREEZING RAIN WILL MAKE FOR DANGEROUS

DRIVING CONDITIONS. IN ADDITION...THE HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG

WINDS COULD RESULT IN NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS...BRING DOWN SOME

TREE LIMBS...AND CAUSE SCATTERED POWER OUTAGES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT

SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.

CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

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Wouldn't shock me if Worcester got as high as #3 all time if this storm comes to fruition

Worcester is somewhat in the same boat as NE parts of this area, if this phase is late they could end up with a garden variety snow event while BOS is destroyed, Worcester is certainly sitting prettier than BDL/HFD but there is danger there that they could at least not see more than 8 inches.  Exactly why I said before if NYC/NJ miss out we won't ve the only ones fuming, most of WRN-CNTRL MA and NRN CT will be too.

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
401 PM EST WED FEB 6 2013

...SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT
INTO SATURDAY MORNING...

NJZ004-103>105-NYZ071-070515-
/O.NEW.KOKX.WS.A.0001.130208T1800Z-130209T1800Z/
EASTERN PASSAIC-WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-
SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-
401 PM EST WED FEB 6 2013

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
SATURDAY AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY
AFTERNOON.

* LOCATIONS...NORTHEASTERN NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER.

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY SNOW...SLEET...AND FREEZING RAIN.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 6 TO 12 INCHES...ALONG
  WITH UP TO A QUARTER OF AN INCH OF ICE.

* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S.

* VISIBILITIES...ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS AT TIMES.

* TIMING...FRIDAY AFTERNOON INTO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.

* IMPACTS...HEAVY SNOW AND FREEZING RAIN WILL MAKE FOR DANGEROUS
  DRIVING CONDITIONS. IN ADDITION...THE HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG
  WINDS COULD RESULT IN NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS...BRING DOWN SOME
  TREE LIMBS...AND CAUSE SCATTERED POWER OUTAGES.


PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

Yeah! :D

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