tuanis Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Storms like this make the non belt GL/OV v. SNE who gets better winters debate seem ridiculous GHD 2011 It can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Storms like this make the non belt GL/OV v. SNE who gets better winters debate seem ridiculous Does it or does it just say they get bigger storms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 12z Euro and 12z Euro ensemble mean at 12z Thursday. Riding the rail in N IL. What do they look like compared to 0z...much of a shift either way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Does it or does it just say they get bigger storms? I would agree with bigger storms. Otherwise, you compare Boston to Milwaukee, which is a really good comparison as they're at a similar latitude and both have a body of water to their east, and Milwaukee gets overall more wintry conditions on a regular basis, but receives more nickel and dime storms in comparison I'm pretty sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What do they look like compared to 0z...much of a shift either way? Slightly cooler. Slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Slightly cooler. Slightly. Thanks. You know I ride trends, so if 0z is slightly cooler again, I'll be a bit more interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 MKX is going really conservative with QPF amounts, interesting to say the least. They have between 0.3 and 0.4"QPF, less than half of the Euro and about half the GEM and UKMET. I realize there is still time for things to shift, but it seems the only reason they would do this is to avoid overhyping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I would agree with bigger storms. Otherwise, you compare Boston to Milwaukee, which is a really good comparison as they're at a similar latitude and both have a body of water to their east, and Milwaukee gets overall more wintry conditions on a regular basis, but receives more nickel and dime storms in comparison I'm pretty sure. The averages are pretty similar no? Slightly less days with snowcover in exchange for crippling blizzards that occur more frequently than once in a lifetime is a no brainer imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 The averages are pretty similar no? Slightly less days with snowcover in exchange for crippling blizzards that occur more frequently than once in a lifetime is a no brainer imho. Yes, both average in the 40-50" range per winter, and although I don't know the exact days of snowcover comparison, I'm sure Milwaukee is a bit ahead, it's easier for Boston to torch in the winter, and there are times when Milwaukee just lucks out being north of a large temperature contrast zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Storms like this make the non belt GL/OV v. SNE who gets better winters debate seem ridiculous It is, I'd take 36" of snow if it all came at once versus penny fluff for 36 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 GFS only gave them 12-18" Only lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Nice illustration of evaporative cooling on the 18z GFS, for far N IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 It is, I'd take 36" of snow if it all came at once versus penny fluff for 36 days. 36" would last 36 days anyhow.... Going to be an interesting period. I also don't think the overperforming systems are over a thing of the past. Perhaps its time to fire up the machines and get ready to make some mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 It is, I'd take 36" of snow if it all came at once versus penny fluff for 36 days. I feel the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 NAM BUFKIT spits out 7-8" for YYZ depending upon technique. Also shows a really strong LES signal early on before delta ts and inversion heights crash. I don't think we'll get amounts as high, but this kind sorta has a January 26-27, 2004 feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 DTX talking 3-6" north of Detroit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What is EC forecasting as per spotwx? I can't view their flash graphs on my mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 What is EC forecasting as per spotwx? I can't view their flash graphs on my mobile. 6'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Bored between work and class. 12z Euro snow map 3" yellow, 6" orange, 9" brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Bored between work and class. 12z Euro snow map 3" yellow, 6" orange, 9" brown. Untitled.png Any idea whether that 9" contour goes north of me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Any idea whether that 9" contour goes north of me? Actual map found here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39166-feb-8th-9th-do-we-finally-get-a-coastal/?p=2075152'>http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39166-feb-8th-9th-do-we-finally-get-a-coastal/?p=2075152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Actual map found here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39166-feb-8th-9th-do-we-finally-get-a-coastal/?p=2075152 awesome detective work there Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Actual map found here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39166-feb-8th-9th-do-we-finally-get-a-coastal/?p=2075152 Lol at the CT/MA areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 NAM BUFKIT spits out 7-8" for YYZ depending upon technique. Also shows a really strong LES signal early on before delta ts and inversion heights crash. I don't think we'll get amounts as high, but this kind sorta has a January 26-27, 2004 feel to it. I'll be leaving for Ottawa at 2:00pm Thursday by car... Thinking its going to be a heck of a drive the whole way. Seems as though YOW will get similar if not more snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 awesome detective work there Tim. Good luck. I'm rooting for you guys up there. Lol at the CT/MA areas. That is combined, through 216 hours. Euro ran another snowstorm through there after day 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'll be leaving for Ottawa at 2:00pm Thursday by car... Thinking its going to be a heck of a drive the whole way. Seems as though YOW will get similar if not more snowfall. If you leave a bit earlier (like 11am) you might be able to avoid most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Good luck. I'm rooting for you guys up there. That is combined, through 216 hours. Euro ran another snowstorm through there after day 7. I would pay money to see something like that occur here even with 2 storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathernut Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 If you're looking for frame by frame posting, that's not going to happen. There is going to be description and analysis though I'm sure. Ok, sweet. Thx for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Energy for this is already onshore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 KMOP anyone? Maybe we could get some text lists going soon give the widespread impact? I'll probably bring the list back starting tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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