Blizzardo Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 he will bust on that one - where is he getting his info from ? Not for nothing but isn't that kind of what the euro is showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thats more unlikely then JB's 1-2 feet at this point!!! We can easily get an inch or two on the front and back ends all the way to the coast. Way to much hype either way!!!! i disagree - Kasper does not hype anything- plus the indicies do not support a big snowstorm here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Not for nothing but isn't that kind of what the euro is showing? It is and for several runs now. Gfs is still playing cath up and will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcad1 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Neg noa what do you think is goimg to happen??? Even uptom has issued a HWO witch says rain changing to snow with blizzard conditions Fri night..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzardo Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Neg nao thinks its gonna rain..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 In my opinion, it is too early to throw out blizzard or near blizzard conditions, just too much uncertainty, especially since the general public thinks 'blizzard' means 'obscene snow totals'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 according to Alan Kasper this is a rainstorm except far north and west - no accumulation except far northwest NJ Alan Kasper is goin to goin to look like one big idiot . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 In my opinion, it is too early to throw out blizzard or near blizzard conditions, just too much uncertainty, especially since the general public thinks 'blizzard' means 'obscene snow totals'. No Blizzard conditions is great than 6 inches of accumulation with sustained winds of 35 mph over a 6 hr period . and Long Island will easily reach that . 12 is a possibility in some spots on th back end as per Euro . So they have to alert people based on what there definition is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 No Blizzard conditions is great than 6 inches of accumulation with sustained winds of 35 mph over a 6 hr period . and Long Island will easily reach that . 12 is a possibility in some spots on th back end as per Euro . I know that, what the general public thinks is another story. Edit: Actually, blizzard doesn't require 6 inches of accumulation, you can have a blizzard in clear skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I know that, what the general public thinks is another story. Edit: Actually, blizzard doesn't require 6 inches of accumulation, you can have a blizzard in clear skies. 5) BLIZZARD WARNING This is issued for a combination of strong winds averaging or frequently gusting to, or above, 35 miles an hour and very low visibility due to blowing or falling snow. These are the most dangerous winter storms and can be especially severe when combined with temperatures below 10 degrees. , yeh no mention of accum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 No Blizzard conditions is great than 6 inches of accumulation with sustained winds of 35 mph over a 6 hr period . and Long Island will easily reach that . 12 is a possibility in some spots on th back end as per Euro . So they have to alert people based on what there definition is . There is no snow accumulation criteria for blizzard conditions. The official criteria is at least 3 hours with visibility under 1/4 mile and sustained winds/frequent gusts to 35 mph or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Neg nao thinks its gonna rain..lol and your point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulen Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I don't forecast all these men mentioned above are seasoned pros lets see who verifies. those ocm mets are salaried J.B is not and he's not shy on his reasoning where the other men cannot speak there mind so he is at a disadvantage they don't explain themselves at least both joes tell you details not a good comparison . I'm not an apologist for anyone i would love for weatherbell to verifie snowgasm eruption no doubt see ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Neg noa what do you think is goimg to happen??? Even uptom has issued a HWO witch says rain changing to snow with blizzard conditions Fri night..... not in NYC - eastern portions closer to where the dynamics will be to support it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 There is no snow accumulation criteria for blizzard conditions. The official criteria is at least 3 hours with visibility under 1/4 mile and sustained winds/frequent gusts to 35 mph or higher. Yeh i just corrected that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcad1 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 not in NYC - eastern portions closer to where the dynamics will be to support it IT WAS ISSUED FOR ALL OF LONG ISLAND WITCH IS NOT THAT FAR FROM NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 HEY EASTER BUNNY BOY ..... I thnk you can ask a number of people how good i`ve been over this whole winter , and listen troll , i will abuse you everytime you post , I wouldnt tangle with me - I will follow every one of you`re posts and make you look like the fotstool that you are . Alan Casper will look like a fool if he`s calling for all RAIN IN NYC AND LONG ISLAND. Now prop my legs up - i need a rest . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Of course it is only rain because some numbers on an index chart say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 5) BLIZZARD WARNING This is issued for a combination of strong winds averaging or frequently gusting to, or above, 35 miles an hour and very low visibility due to blowing or falling snow. These are the most dangerous winter storms and can be especially severe when combined with temperatures below 10 degrees. , yeh no mention of accum Temperatures are also no longer relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemurph44 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 The euro is really the only model showing a major NYC snowstorm and that is why kasper, upton, etc is being very cautious. Gfs isn't showing it, rgem isn't showing it, nam isn't, ukmet isn't, the canadian isn't, you get the picture. And no pro mets really consider the jma to be even close to a reliable model. If my reputation was on the line I would not use the ecmwf either against all the other models especially given its track record this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 The Euro will toast the GFS with this. It rains in most places after the onset ,But theres a tremendous amount of CCB from the city out onto Long Island . Upton isnt calling for pot blizzard conditions Fri without the complete understanding that the Euro prints out 1.5 inches of QPF with minus 5 air and 55 mph winds , NYC accumulates out of the this on the backside , and if people are still arguing over that , you cant be helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 0Z CONTROL RUN OF THE EURO JUST CAME IN AND HAS ALL OF NJ, SE NY, NYC, LONG ISLAND, CONNECTICUT AS 2.5-3.0 INCHES OF PRECIP WITH 850'S BELOW 0 CRASHING OFF SHORE. DEEPENS TO A 978MB AND STALLS IN PERFECT LOCATION. Yes, it could start as rain in some locations, but the majority of this storm will be snow everywhere. Unreal. I strongly the believe the Euro operational run will keep trending toward this, as it has on the prior two runs now. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metsfan Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 As of right now the GFS is a light snow to heavy rain back to snow scenario. The Euro is somewhat of an outlier here with the almost all snow event esp for the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 CONTROL RUN OF THE EURO NOW HAS ALL OF NJ, SE NY, NYC, LONG ISLAND, CONNECTICUT AS 2.5-3.0 INCHES OF PRECIP WITH 850'S BELOW CRASHING OFF SHORE. DEEPENS TO A 978MB AND STALLS IN PERFECT LOCATION. Yes, it could start as rain in some locations, but the majority of this storm will be snow everywhere. Unreal. I strongly the believe the Euro operational run will keep trending toward this, as it has on the prior two runs now. Unreal. As ridiculous as it sounds, it may very well be onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Just saw the RPM on Channel 4. Has about 23.8 inches of snow in New York City. This could be some interesting times ahead. Sent from Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Just saw the RPM on Channel 4. Has about 23.8 inches of snow in New York City. This could be some interesting times ahead. Sent from Tapatalk I'm beginning to think the "RPM" is a pseudo EURO run by NBC (TWC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulen Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 models aside at least climatology is on our side and the lindsay storm was on the same date good karma ultimately its up to ma nature no manmade products can predict it's all in the chase and i need my fix lets get it on.see ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 1234abc, thanks for the update. We need some insurance from the 6z NOGAPS, 0z JMA and 6z GFS ensembles. What do they show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'm beginning to think the "RPM" is a pseudo EURO run by NBC (TWC) Yeah it does seem like it although TWC themselves not showing the RPM yet... Still pitting GFS against EURO like they did with Sandy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Yeah it does seem like it although TWC themselves not showing the RPM yet... Still pitting GFS against EURO like they did with Sandy... I'm kind of shocked they just showed the EURO snow map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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