Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 That and it would also be terrible to miss out on Mar-Apr mult-day fog drizzle fests. Honestly, at 3-4k feet they don't all that much damage precip wise. Yea, they cut back on west flow events in the winter a bit but it's not all that significant. The vertical rise isn't enough to cause much of a shadow like places in the lee of the rockies. The fact that we still get precip with clippers says a lot. Denver would barely have clouds. I won't quibble with KU. I guess I should read it more than just look at the pictures. I'm sure CAD helps tho I'm not sold we wouldn't still get big coastal snows without it. Agree the mtns aren't a huge problem overall... they probably do contribute a bit to our relatively plentiful sunshine even at their meager height which is a bonus even for a person who loves bad weather. I just haven't seen many situations where CAD was huge as far as snow goes since I've been here. If we got more overrunning snows maybe.. that just doesn't seem terribly common. But maybe I'm not factoring in minor CAD etc. Fortunately for the disco.. the mtns arent going anywhere for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 That's a loaded statement. Miller B-- would be harder to get with certain conditions. R/S line would push further inland. Think of Dec 18-19, 2009. It was rain west of the appies in many places. Only snowed east because of CAD impact. hmm, so worse miller bs and less snowcover days.. pretty awful. you guys got me on this one.. no other good retorts for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffwx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I won't quibble with KU. I guess I should read it more than just look at the pictures. I'm sure CAD helps tho I'm not sold we wouldn't still get big coastal snows without it. Agree the mtns aren't a huge problem overall... they probably do contribute a bit to our relatively plentiful sunshine even at their meager height which is a bonus even for a person who loves bad weather. I just haven't seen many situations where CAD was huge as far as snow goes since I've been here. If we got more overrunning snows maybe.. that just doesn't seem terribly common. But maybe I'm not factoring in minor CAD etc. Fortunately for the disco.. the mtns arent going anywhere for a while. Blizzard of 96 had HUGE cad which really helped the first half of the snow... Pd2 would have been a different beast without cad too.. much more rain for a while. and then eventually the warming aloft kicked it over to sleet regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 ian started a cad war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 i think the disco needs scientific method put to work. I don't want to get rid of the mountains because I like them. Let's move them for a season or 2 and see what happens and then put them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 ian started a cad war i'll be back in april after it's been foggy and 45 for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 We could replace WV with a big lake and we could start racking up some lake effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 21z RAP next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm buying the nam....0.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 504 PM EST MON FEB 4 2013 MDZ003-004-WVZ052-050615- /O.EXA.KLWX.WW.Y.0009.000000T0000Z-130205T1100Z/ WASHINGTON-FREDERICK MD-BERKELEY- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...HAGERSTOWN...FREDERICK...MARTINSBURG 504 PM EST MON FEB 4 2013 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST TUESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW... WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST TUESDAY. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...1 TO 2 INCHES. * TIMING...LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOW EARLY THIS EVENING...BECOMING HEAVIER LATER THIS EVENING THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING. * TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S. * WINDS...SOUTH 10 MPH...BECOMING WEST LATE TONIGHT. * IMPACTS...TRAVEL WILL BECOME DIFFICULT WITH SNOW COVERED ROADS AND VISIBILITIES REDUCED TO AROUND ONE-QUARTER MILE AT TIMES. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW WILL CAUSE PRIMARILY TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR SNOW COVERED ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING. && $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 504 PM EST MON FEB 4 2013 MDZ003-004-WVZ052-050615- /O.EXA.KLWX.WW.Y.0009.000000T0000Z-130205T1100Z/ WASHINGTON-FREDERICK MD-BERKELEY- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...HAGERSTOWN...FREDERICK...MARTINSBURG 504 PM EST MON FEB 4 2013 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST TUESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW... WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST TUESDAY. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...1 TO 2 INCHES. * TIMING...LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOW EARLY THIS EVENING...BECOMING HEAVIER LATER THIS EVENING THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING. * TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S. * WINDS...SOUTH 10 MPH...BECOMING WEST LATE TONIGHT. * IMPACTS...TRAVEL WILL BECOME DIFFICULT WITH SNOW COVERED ROADS AND VISIBILITIES REDUCED TO AROUND ONE-QUARTER MILE AT TIMES. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW WILL CAUSE PRIMARILY TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR SNOW COVERED ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING. && $$ So close yet so far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is a north of bwi event. West of bwi really, though i do see a good band by the bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 So close yet so far away you'll get your dusting+. congratso mi amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm already below freezing so my flakes will stick. All 3 dozen of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If only all that moisture to our west could reach northern Virginia! It's dark green with some yellow. I know it wont tho - these models do not lie. If we could only get that moisture here for an hour! We'd have conversational snow all right. No use wishin tho. EDIT: Skies are now partly cloudy. Time for another adjustment......I now only expect overcast skies at best. This thing is drying up faster than piss in the middle of the Sahara Desert in July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Decent blob out west...hope it makes it this far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Decent blob out west...hope it makes it this far Looking at weenie cast radar it is hard to believe that area where the pink and blue meet on the OH KY border won't perform better area wide....it looks like it is being fed by the moisture from the south.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffwx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 i think the disco needs scientific method put to work. I don't want to get rid of the mountains because I like them. Let's move them for a season or 2 and see what happens and then put them back. I like the idea of retractable Mts. clipper season, we put them to our east-- when CAD is needed, we put them to our west. We get the BEST of both worlds. I bet that would increase seasonal averages by 50% or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Snow is very light. You would think it would be heavier with the radar returns over my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 SN- and 32 degrees. Ground beginning to whiten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The 22Z RAP looks like it killed any snow for DCA at least through 04Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Turning to radar nowcasting.......looks like all the moisture to our west is stealing from Peter to pay Paul (lots more snow for the WV mountains), resulting in less moisture up north for Pennsylvania. Any snow over WV will dry up before reaching mby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsnowlover Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The 22Z RAP looks like it killed any snow for DCA at least through 04Z. do you have a link for the rap you use?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Clear skies, stars above here in Clarksburg (no, really). Good evening for radiational cooling. Temp has dropped from its high of 31.8F to 28.8F on calm winds in the last 30 minutes. Hard to believe its snowing just to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Clear skies, stars above here in Clarksburg (no, really). Good evening for radiational cooling. Temp has dropped from its high of 31.8F to 28.8F on calm winds in the last 30 minutes. Hard to believe its snowing just to the west. clearing now here to radar shows it just drying up, much how the NAM indicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownerd Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The 22Z RAP looks like it killed any snow for DCA at least through 04Z. do you have a link for the rap you use?? I like this site for the RAPhttp://www.twisterdata.com/index.php?prog=forecast&model=RAP&grid=255&model_yyyy=2013&model_mm=02&model_dd=04&model_init_hh=22&fhour=00¶meter=CREF&level=SURFACE&unit=none&maximize=n&mode=singlemap&sounding=n&output=image&view=large&archive=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Vort strength appears to be more important than a 'southern connection' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 boundary layer issues too. we got plenty cold air. problem is, dewpoints are around 14 degrees with temps about 34. if we ever see any virga its gonna dry right up. better chances of heavy rain in the kalahari desert over a 30 year dataset timeframe than seeing snow in the next 18 hours lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Next I'll let someone else keep an eye on the next. I just can't get excited for rain. I dig severe but i suck at analyzing so I just lurk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Wow...nam wins...oh well...on to March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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