Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The 19Z RAP looks pretty bad for areas from DC south and really nice for winterwxluvr and peeps to the north and west of DC. being right on the tight gradient from something to nothing kinda sucks. verbatim it still looks marginally ok imby but perilous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 being right on the tight gradient from something to nothing kinda sucks. verbatim it still looks marginally ok imby but perilous. For me it looks bad. I'll be happy with conversational snow. I don't like the surface low being as far north as it is with a weak vort. That usually doesn't work well south of the low track at least on this side of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 hi res nam has almost 2" for Davis WV...i should road trip...someone out there is going to get 12-18" + I wonder how easy it would be to get there even before the snow starts. All these clippers have hit them hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 they're gotten 27" in the last 5 days and 13" snowcover not counting today....I think not that hard...they clear roads ASAP out there...of course I have to work so I will have to settle for our pixie dust cartopper embrace the cartopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 they're gotten 27" in the last 5 days and 13" snowcover not counting today....I think not that hard...they clear roads ASAP out there...of course I have to work so I will have to settle for our pixie dust cartopper Me too but in mby I wouldn't be surprised if I saw flurries that weren't even heavy enough to whiten a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Me too but in mby I wouldn't be surprised if I saw flurries that weren't even heavy enough to whiten a car. Gee, hope to see something n of bwi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I wonder how easy it would be to get there even before the snow starts. All these clippers have hit them hard. I drive to Davis a lot to XC ski, you'd be surprised how well they take care of the roads. I've gotten up there in my 2WD during some pretty big storms. That said, I'm investing in chains for my front two tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Cinci is getting hammered right now. Traffic cams look like quarter mile vis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Me too but in mby I wouldn't be surprised if I saw flurries that weren't even heavy enough to whiten a car. I should have road tripped to your area for your 1.5" event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Nam and gfs were pretty dry here...when in doubt go with persistence....I'm gonna go with a nice deck frosting and perhaps some grass whitening....congrats Jonjon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 For me it looks bad. I'll be happy with conversational snow. I don't like the surface low being as far north as it is with a weak vort. That usually doesn't work well south of the low track at least on this side of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 hi-res nam is awful It has been just an awful model of late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Full sunshine right now...33 dp 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 It's the most impressive radar image we have had with any of the clippers. I want to see if it wants to turn the corner after crossing the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Almost gametime per http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php Those that get accums - enjoy it! It's a fairly fast mover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsukev Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 It's the most impressive radar image we have had with any of the clippers. I want to see if it wants to turn the corner after crossing the mountains. I'm with Ian... bulldoze the mountains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 It's the most impressive radar image we have had with any of the clippers. I want to see if it wants to turn the corner after crossing the mountains. it looks ok, but this overall pattern is not conducive to much more than conversational snow east of the mountains. seems like these systems become very showery as they cross the mountains. as long as your expectations are low you will do fine. personally, i'd rather this pattern be done with and start a new one as quickly as we can before the season is out instead of relying on these positively tilted clippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVsnowlover Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 In davis/canaan tonight. Starting to come down good now. Roads were fine coming in this morning, plows were everywhere. Only took 1hr 45min from winchester. The new road is great, can't wait for them to finish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm with Ian... bulldoze the mountains! Then you lose CAD. So good luck with that....and the upslope folks will lose that too. Besides, these systems are already moisture starved...the mountains don't matter (well they do but not to get huge snow). We get our best snowfalls with coastals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Then you lose CAD. So good luck with that....and the upslope folks will lose that too. Besides, these systems are already moisture starved...the mountains don't matter (well they do but not to get huge snow). We get our best snowfalls with coastals. CAD isn't as great as a lot of people act like it is. We'd still get coastals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Then you lose CAD. So good luck with that....and the upslope folks will lose that too. Besides, these systems are already moisture starved...the mountains don't matter (well they do but not to get huge snow). We get our best snowfalls with coastals. Mountains don't really steal snow as much as they make their own. If the mountains didn't exist we would do about as well as cinci with clippers which is only slightly better. But I guess when we are hoping for .04 and we end up with .03 it kinda hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Mountains don't really steal snow as much as they make their own. If the mountains didn't exist we would do about as well as cinci with clippers which is only slightly better. But I guess when we are hoping for .04 and we end up with .03 it kinda hurts. Downsloping can dry things out on our side, though. Clippers are definitely made for the midwest and upslope terrain. Overrunning precip from the south is when we do our damage. Would be nice to have a low forming in the Tennessee Valley heading our way ala the good ol' days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsukev Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Then you lose CAD. So good luck with that....and the upslope folks will lose that too. Besides, these systems are already moisture starved...the mountains don't matter (well they do but not to get huge snow). We get our best snowfalls with coastals. Yeah, I really don't want to bulldoze the mountains. They're actually quite nice. Before moving here I had no idea though how much of a hindrance they could be to piedmont and coastal plain to the east with a west to east moving system. My other problem: moving here in 2009 kinda has my expectations set perhaps a bit high... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 CAD isn't as great as a lot of people act like it is. We'd still get coastals. Really? I thought from KU's work that CAD is important for keeping the metropolis snow vs. rain (in a majority of the 30 KU cases). They link it with coastal frontogenesis as factors that affect the low's path. Edited- Or even more directly, that CAD leads to coastal frontogenesis, the pair of which keep the low on the coast or offshore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Really? I thought from KU's work that CAD is important for keeping the metropolis snow vs. rain (in a majority of the 30 KU cases). They link it with coastal frontogenesis as factors that affect the low's path. could be.. i knew i was probably overgeneralizing when i saw you posting. half of your posts might be correcting my snow assumptions. i mean i dunno.. we get a lot of cad that doesn't bring snow. without the mtns we'd get more precip from the west and lakes etc. not sure it would mean snowier winters or less big snows etc. i'd probably rather keep them for the lee trough anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 CAD isn't as great as a lot of people act like it is. We'd still get coastals. It is rather important if you ask me. This place would be worse than Ohio for keeping snow in place for a good length of time without the warm air interfering. We benefit by far in most winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 could be.. i knew i was probably overgeneralizing when i saw you posting. half of your posts might be correcting my snow assumptions. i mean i dunno.. we get a lot of cad that doesn't bring snow. without the mtns we'd get more precip from the west and lakes etc. not sure it would mean snowier winters or less big snows etc. i'd probably rather keep them for the lee trough anyway. That and it would also be terrible to miss out on Mar-Apr mult-day fog drizzle fests. Honestly, at 3-4k feet they don't all that much damage precip wise. Yea, they cut back on west flow events in the winter a bit but it's not all that significant. The vertical rise isn't enough to cause much of a shadow like places in the lee of the rockies. The fact that we still get precip with clippers says a lot. Denver would barely have clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm with Ian... bulldoze the mountains! Just move out here. Light snow has started N/W of Winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If the RAP ran every 15 minutes I'd like it even more... lol- spoken like a true junkie. You have to like the area of good lift/forcing in in / oh. I think that's what the rap is keying on with it's heavier axis. Someone could see a nice period of really good rates and big flakes. We'll see. Plenty of time to dry up and fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffwx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 CAD isn't as great as a lot of people act like it is. We'd still get coastals. That's a loaded statement. Miller B-- would be harder to get with certain conditions. R/S line would push further inland. Think of Dec 18-19, 2009. It was rain west of the appies in many places. Only snowed east because of CAD impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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