1900hurricane Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 If FWD is willing to mention a possible event that is beyond the current forecast period, it's time to start paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Also from FWD: Could be we looking at another shot of arctic air across North Texas? Many of the long-range forecast models are hinting at this, so this graphic depicts the possibilities. Two upper level low pressure systems may be responsible for sending arctic air our way in the 8-14 day portion of the forecast. The first, labeled L1, is currently over Alaska. This upper low is expected to move away from Alaska and send cold air our way December 20th or 21st. It will send some of the cold Alaska and northern Canada air south into the plains. How cold we'll get and how long it will last will depend at least partially on how far south it moves. If it takes a southerly track, we can expect at least a few days of temperatures well below normal late next week. The secondary upper low, labeled L2, is what may bring a reinforcing shot of arctic air into the United States. If this secondary upper low moves south, over the western United States, it will likely send some very cold Siberian air into the central U.S., but this would not happen until just before Christmas, if it happens at all. While models indicate we'll get colder late next week, there is not very good agreement on the track and strength of the cold air associated with L2. If L2 takes the southern track depicted with the white 2. in the image, it will send a reinforcing shot of very cold air south on December 22nd or 23. If it just circles around the Arctic Circle, as depicted by the white 1. in the image, it will have very little to no impact on temperatures across North Texas. We'll be watching these systems closely over the next several days. Keep in mind a LOT can change between now and then, 8-14 day forecasts typically change dramatically before models come to a consensus solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixotic1 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I like FWD AFD. They take a lot of time to educate. I learned something new the other night about super cooled droplets needing particles to become solid, thanks to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba hotep Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Also from FWD: [font=] FWD doing Work! I've never seen them focus on a long range event like this. Typically they may mention it and then say something like, "but it is beyond this forecast package" or what not. I am really liking the snow pack that is in place, this could be one for the record books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFWWeather Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 FWD doing Work! I've never seen them focus on a long range event like this. Typically they may mention it and then say something like, "but it is beyond this forecast package" or what not. I am really liking the snow pack that is in place, this could be one for the record books. They are mentioning it ahead of time for a couple reasons. One being it is Christmas week and a major travel period. The second being that this setup has the potential of delivering dangerous (by our standards anyway) cold to much of Texas. The upper air pattern is quite similar to December 1983/1989. Cold air outbreaks like this near the winter solstice tend to be some of the worst. In addition, one of the most expansive snowpacks in years exists between us and the cold giving very little room for airmass modification, especially on a favorable setup for a fast delivery. For what its worth, I don't think this event will have any significant wintry precipitation associated with it. It will be remembered for the cold. It will be dry with a very suppressed storm track, even for our area. It also has the markings of a protracted event with a possible second and even third cold air surge lasting well into Christmas week. It is the second cold air surge, on or after the 23rd, that has everyone concerned as it has the potential to unleash a direct discharge of a Siberian airmass. Models forecasting ridges in Alaska 580+ heights in the upper levels (which all three are showing ECMWF, Canadian, GFS) have been associated with some of our coldest air outbreaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yes, the potential is there for a series of severe cold air discharges. Like 1989, there was continuous cold from the latest days of Nov and all December...unlike it, the axis of cold is further West, going thru the heart of the CONUS this time. 1989 and 1983 had the most severe and expansive cold in the last 50 years for our neck of the woods, and even though it has been pretty cold, we have not at those years level....yet. Nothing a 1060mb+ high in Montana can't fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFWWeather Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Yikes folks...there is nothing warm about this pattern and it continues today on the 12z runs of the ECMWF, GFS, and CMC: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba hotep Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It looks like the models are trending more towards a glancing blow with the cold and not dumping the core of the coldest air down the spine of the Rockies. However, the individual members of the ensembles are still all over the place. We will probably see a different solution out of the operationals tomorrow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 It looks like the models are trending more towards a glancing blow with the cold and not dumping the core of the coldest air down the spine of the Rockies. However, the individual members of the ensembles are still all over the place. We will probably see a different solution out of the operationals tomorrow lol Models are still having difficulties, which is reasonable at this time lead. 18z GFS had a more SW-NE orientated ridge near the GoA, while the latest 0z has a more N-S ridge. At this moment the 0z is still running, but I'm sure it will be colder farther south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yes, the potential is there for a series of severe cold air discharges. Like 1989, there was continuous cold from the latest days of Nov and all December...unlike it, the axis of cold is further West, going thru the heart of the CONUS this time. 1989 and 1983 had the most severe and expansive cold in the last 50 years for our neck of the woods, and even though it has been pretty cold, we have not at those years level....yet. Nothing a 1060mb+ high in Montana can't fix. Models are still having difficulties, which is reasonable at this time lead. 18z GFS had a more SW-NE orientated ridge near the GoA, while the latest 0z has a more N-S ridge. At this moment the 0z is still running, but I'm sure it will be colder farther south. Heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Morning Update from Meteorologist Jeff L (Harris County Flood Control District): Old arctic high pressure cell that has been around for over a week now is finally beginning to erode and move eastward this morning. A storm system over the SW US will eject into TX today and with increasing low level moisture off the western Gulf of Mexico expect to see light rain develop and increase fairly quickly after noon from west to east across the region. Surface warm front over the northern Gulf waters will move northward and may reach the coastal counties from Victoria to High Island this evening allowing 60 degree dewpoints to push over the “chilled” nearshore waters in the upper 40’s. This will potential create a dense sea fog bank right along the coast. Most areas will hold in the 50’s yet again today, but a few coastal locations could push above 60 if the warm front passes onshore. Rain chances should end fairly quickly late tonight as moisture is swept eastward by the storm system and the next cold front pushes across the region. Rainfall amounts will average generally less than .25 of an inch south of I-10 and .25 to.50 of an inch north of I-10. Front will move offshore on Saturday with cold air advection returning. Moisture looks to become trapped in the lower levels and this may result in clouds linger much of the day on Saturday and possibly into Sunday morning as many times it is hard to scour out that frontal inversion saturation level. Temperatures will fall back into the 50’s both Saturday and Sunday with lows by Monday morning under clear skies, calm winds, and low dewpoints falling to near freezing. A longer term warm up begins by Tuesday of next week as established southerly winds return to the region with lows climbing into the 50’s by late next week and highs possibly pushing the mid to upper 70’s. Will likely see a sea fog threat return at some point after Tuesday as dewpoints begin to rise above nearshore water temperatures once again…something we will be dealing with for weeks to come with such cold nearshore temperatures. Dec 21-26: Upper air pattern will undergo significant amplification along the US west coast with upper level high pressure building northward deep into Alaska and possibly northern Siberia. Global forecast models show heights rising into the 2-3 standard deviations above normal in this region by the middle of next week. Additionally, the water temperatures in the northern Pacific Ocean are some of the warmest in recent decades (nearing some historical values) and this warm pool in the region south of the Gulf of Alaska tends to favor not only building high pressure in this region, but larger and stronger high pressures cells. Upper level high pressure development in this region helps to foster a strong downstream trough over Canada and the US and its intensity/depth is dependent on the intensity of the ridging over Alaska…so the stronger the Alaskan ridge the deeper the downstream US trough. All of the major global forecast models show a pattern of varying degrees of building high pressure along the US west coast deep into Alaska and potentially northern Russia by the middle to end of next week. This pattern also allows the formation of intense surface high pressure cells over NW Canada promoting the development of a pool of bitter cold air as this area is currently experiencing near zero sunshine. This cold air pool has yet to fully develop and that is why forecast models are having such a hard time determining how cold it is going to get the week of Christmas. The pattern will certainly favor an arctic air outbreak into the US by the weekend of the 21st, but how cold and how long remain viable questions this morning. With model guidance now so widely available on the internet one must be cautious to avoid believing each model run and the “extreme” numbers that at times can be shown and have been shown over the past 3-4 days. The area to watch over the coming days will be northern Russia into NW Canada and eastern Alaska in the Sunday-Tuesday time period to see how cold the air mass in the source region becomes and if surface pressures build to the forecasted values being shown (1050-1060mb). Surface air temperatures in this region are already running in the -25F to -40F range this morning. This will be much of the focus for the next several days leading into Christmas week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFWWeather Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Models seemed to have backed down considerably with the Arctic front Christmas weekend. Doesn't even look like an Arctic front anymore, just a Canadian/polar front. The really harsh cold gets swept into trough out over the Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixotic1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 There's still hope. chances are the models are still behind on the extent of the cold, though any 1983 parallels are probably hyperbole now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 FINALY...we have clear skies and chilly temperatures this morning across the Region. Temps have dipped below freezing here in NW Harris County this morning , but the sunshine will be welcomed after a long duration of dreary cold days except for last Wednesday when managed to get a brief break albeit chilly. Sub freezing temps are expected again tomorrow morning N and E of Metro Houston and then the moderation begins. Foggy conditions are likely mid week before Major changes develop. The medium range is looking rather wet and stormy as we head towards later in the week. The operational and ensemble guidance are in somewhat agreement that a very deep trough will drop S into the Baja Region and a robust upper low will develop and slowly begin to move E across Northern Mexico towards Texas. The fly in the ointment aappears to be the potential of a Coastal Low developing along the Lower/Middle Texas Coast on Friday which would tend to favor heavy rainfall and elevated storms, some possibly strong in the warm sector while the Canadian air mass settles S across the Central/Southern Plains. Across the cold sector a variety on Winter Weather may be possible with freezing rain/sleet and snow further N. If the upper low/trough remains closed or stronger, a significant Winter Storm may develop late Friday into Sunday. Once the frontal boundary slips S, over running moisture may be possible next weekend as the trough may linger to our W with SW winds aloft or a warm nose and colder temperatures at the surface. If things develop as the appear as of this morning, this would be the 3rd such event of this kind since just before Thanksgiving so the movie "Ground Hog Day" come to mind. This remains a very complicated and complex forecast and pattern, so expect changes...some possibly very big as even NWS Houston/Galveston stated this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 27 degrees with heavy frost this morning in my back yard...coldest morning of the season so far. Yesterday was cold and blustery reminding me of late Fall days back home in the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixotic1 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 And then, depression set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Looking pretty boring, a touch cool, but noting terrible. Obviously hoping for a milder end to Winter and generally onshore winds so in April and May flow off the Southern Gulf and Caribbean doesn't have too much cool shelf water to cross, with the frequent result in SETX of even a very breakable cap never breaking because of the low overcast all day. That can ruin FUNderstorm season in SETX, looking bad at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba hotep Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 And then, depression set in. 00z GFS is a step back in the right direction. Maybe the model warming trend is over and we can start trending cooler. I'm kind of an optimist at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Model forecast confidence: Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Even in the most boring of weather patterns, I continue to pan for that small fleck of gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 ^^ GFS and Euro still suggest some capping issues with a bit of a Westerly component at 850 mb, but that is the only negative factor I can see for SETX Saturday FUNderstorms, wind energy and instability there, Manly low coming into SW, with sub 540 dm heights below it on both GFS and Euro. Doubt it actually snows on the Baja, but wouldn't that be awesome? Just a hint of a negative tilt, the capping issues wouldn't be so bad, and we have five days, almost, to get that fixed. Glass quarter full. 5 years, 3 months, 4 days since 50 knot gusts IMBY... EDIT TO ADD 1900 Hurricane's post below makes me a happy camper. Still a bit worried about capping, but LI's -7 to -9ºC and 40 knot plus 850 mb winds, well, happy camper time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Another chilly morning across our Region, but dew points have risen, so no heavy frost issues today (we did have frost on roof tops in NW Harris County with a low temp of 33 F). The surface high pressure ridge over Louisiana will slide E today and a return flow off the Gulf will begin with SE winds and warming temps and increasing moisture as well as fog. Today should be the end of the sorely needed sunshine before clouds increase and sea fog develops and temperatures continue to moderate to above normal. The general synoptic pattern of a split zonal flow where the cold air is bottled up along the Northern US and a Ridge off the Pacific West Coast and a SE Ridge over the Bahamas should allow for further warming and streamer showers and drizzle to develop by Friday. Changes lurk ahead as a potent short wave dives S into the Baja/Southern California late Thursday and cuts off while a modified Polar front drops S into Texas on Friday. Uncertainty arises as to how far S the front sags before stalling across Central Texas as well as when the SW upper low begins its journey E towards Texas. The GFS appears to be too fast moving the U/L to the E while the Euro and Canadian are slower. Since the slower ejection solution of similar patterns we have seen so far this fall season seems likely, more credence will be given to the non American guidance at this time. Saturday should be the warmest day we see this week and also the most unsettled. Showers and storms, some possibly severe may warrant an increase in Severe Weather Watch mode and will need to be monitored later this week. It does appear that there is a chance for a bit of negative tilt to the trough which suggests all modes of severe weather may be possible. A surface low could develop over Central Texas on Saturday as the upper low approaches from NE Mexico. We will also need to monitor for the potential of heavy rainfall as moisture increases to near 3 standard deviation above normal for this time of year. Saturday evening could be very stormy, so be aware if you have Holiday party plans. Sunday looks to turn much colder as the front finally pushes offshore. Another stronger front may pass on Monday as a wound up Winter Storm moves NE across the Mid Mississippi Valley towards the Upper Mid West early next week. With a general pattern of a Ridge to our West offshore of the Coast of California and another to our East offshore in the Atlantic, cooler and dry weather should arrive for Christmas. EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD 118 AM EST TUE DEC 17 2013 VALID 12Z FRI DEC 20 2013 - 12Z TUE DEC 24 2013 ...OVERVIEW... GEFS...NAEFS AND EC ENSEMBLES RECOGNIZE SPLIT-FLOW PATTERN ALONG THE WEST COAST OF NORTH AMERICA AND CONFLUENT PATTERN DOWNSTREAM OVER THE CANADIAN MARITIMES AND NORTH ATLANTIC THIS MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. NORTHERN STREAM IS EXPECTED TO BECOME ENTRAINED WITH A SERIES OF MIGRATORY PACIFIC SYSTEMS AND WILL LIKELY CONTAIN THE WINTER-TYPE PRECIPITATION--MAINLY FOR THE NORTHERN ROCKIES-PLAINS...GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST THIS FORECAST PERIOD. FROM A SYNOPTIC-SCALE PERSPECTIVE...THE PACIFIC STORM TRACK SHOULD BE A SERIES OF SUBTLE BUT DISTINGUISHABLE MID-LEVEL CIRCULATIONS TRACKING FROM THE SOUTHERN CANADIAN ROCKIES OF ALBERTA...EASTWARD THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST AND ST LAWRENCE VALLEY THIS FORECAST PERIOD. SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY AND MOISTURE REMAINS THE VOLATILE 'WILD CARD'...WITH WEST-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW DRIVING DOWNSTREAM FROM THE DESERT SOUTHWEST AND MID-RIO GRANDE VALLEY EASTWARD INTO THE OZARKS AND OHIO VALLEYS. THE VOLATILITY WILL BE TWO-FOLD...A BROAD MID-LEVEL CYCLONE OFF THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA COAST MIGRATES INLAND EARLY IN THE PERIOD...FOLLOWED BY A DIGGING EASTERN PACIFIC SHORTWAVE...THAT BRIEFLY CLOSES OFF INVOF THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER BASIN--THEN EJECTS EASTWARD ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND PLAINS. BOTH HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DELIVER DECENT PULSES OF PRECIPITATION TO THE SOUTHWEST...SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND DOWNSTREAM THROUGH THE SOUTHERN TIER OF STATES THIS FORECAST PERIOD. BOTH JET STREAMS MERGE DOWNSTREAM OVER THE NORTHEAST AND CANADIAN MARITIMES...GENERATING A BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW SOUTHEAST OF GREENLAND. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED...THE MERGING STREAMS SERVE AS THE WESTERN/NORTHWEST FLANKS OF STRONG RIDGING IN THE BAHAMAS...FLORIDA AND THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO. ...MODEL PREFERENCES AND UNCERTAINTY ASSESSMENT... FOLLOWING THE PREVIOUS WPC GRAPHICS THROUGH DAY 7 WAS AN EASY TASK...WITH A COMBINATION OF THE 16/12Z EC ENSEMBLES MEAN AND NAEFS MEANS MAINTAINING DECENT CONTINUITY WITH THE FRONTAL PROGRESSION OF THE ARCTIC FRONT DAY 4-5...BUT THE MEANS GENERALLY LOSE ANY/ALL SUBTLE NORTHERN STREAM FEATURES EXITING SOUTHERN ALBERTA. GIVEN THE STRONGLY-SHEARED ENVIRONMENT ALOFT OVER CENTRAL CANADA AND THE DRY ARCTIC AIRMASS IN PLACE...THE MEANS FOCUS OF THE CENTERS OF HIGH PRESSURE RATHER THAN ANY MID-LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW MIGRATING DOWNSTREAM FROM WEST TO EAST. BOTH MEANS MAINTAIN MORE OF A DOMINANT SOUTHERN STREAM FLOW FROM THE OZARKS NORTHEASTWARD INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND NORTHEAST-CANADIAN MARITIMES BY THE END OF THIS PERIOD. SOME ASPECTS OF THE GFS/ECMWF/CANADIAN AND UKMET WERE VALID AND COULD ADD DETAIL TO THE PROJECTED FLOW PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS THIS PERIOD. THE 16/12Z DETERMINISTIC UKMET...15/18Z GFS AND 15/12Z ECMWF HAD THE GENERAL IDEA ALL ALONG...WITH A SECOND ALBERTA CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM TRACKING THROUGH THE UPPER MIDWEST SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY...AND ALL RECENT PIECES OF GUIDANCE CONTINUE TO REAFFIRM THE FRONTAL POSITION AT THE START OF DAY 3 (20/12Z) BETWEEN LAKE HURON AND THE SOUTHERN OZARKS. THIS HAS BEEN A TRACK-ABLE FEATURE FOR 5 DAYS NOW...AND IS GOING TO BE RATHER CLOSE TO THE MODEL PROGS FROM 12Z DECEMBER 13TH. THE FACT THAT THE FLOW ALOFT OVER CENTRAL CANADA AND ARCTIC CANADA HAS RESOLVED ITSELF...ADDS CONFIDENCE TO THE FORECAST...WITH THE DAY 3 OPEN WAVE EXITING THE GREAT LAKES--SHEARING OUT QUICKLY OVER EASTERN CANADA. IT IS FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER PACIFIC WAVE EXITING SOUTHERN ALBERTA...BY DAY 4-5...AND TAKING A STORM TRACK THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA. A THIRD SYSTEM MOVES OUT OF THE SOUTHERN CANADA ROCKIES DAYS 6-7. THE SPACING BETWEEN NORTHERN STREAM SYSTEMS CONTINUES TO BE RATHER ACCURATE AND PREDICTABLE. THIS DAY 4-5 WAVE TRACK THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA BRINGS THE ARCTIC AIRMASS INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. MORE IMPORTANTLY...IS OPENS THE DOOR FOR MORE PACIFIC ENERGY TO ESTABLISH A NORTHWEST FLOW OFF THE PACIFIC AND INTO/THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND ROCKIES THROUGH THE END OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. THIS SERVES AS THE RATHER STABLE NORTHERN STREAM SPLIT IN THE FLOW PATTERN ALONG THE WEST COAST OF THE CONTINENT. THE 16/12Z DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT...THOUGH NOT PERFECT...WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM AND SURFACE WAVE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE ARCTIC FRONT. THE LATEST IDEA IS FOR AT LEAST TWO PULSES OF SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND PRECIPITATION TO RIDE ALONG THE FRONT...WITH THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...OZARKS AND OHIO VALLEY REGIONS TAPPING THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO. HENCE...THE DEEPER LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE...AND HEAVY RAINFALL THREAT BEGINS TO TAKE SHAPE ON SATURDAY OVER TEXAS/OKLAHOMA AND LOUISIANA-ARKANSAS AND THE LOWER MS VALLEY...WESTERN OHIO VALLEY SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING. HERE...THE EC AND NAEFS MEANS BASICALLY STRETCH OUT THE SURFACE TROUGH NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE NORTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO INTO THE MID-OHIO VALLEY...WITH THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS RUNNING AT DIFFERENT PACES ALONG THE FRONT. THEREFORE...THE MEANS CONTINUE TO SERVE AS THE BASELINE FOR THE SURFACE GRAPHICS. BUT THE 16/12Z DETERMINISTIC GFS...CANADIAN AND/OR ECMWF WOULD SUGGEST A 996MB TO 1000MB SURFACE WAVE AND BROAD WARM FRONT DEVELOP IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM...AND REMAINING SEPARATED FROM THE NORTHERN STREAM UNTIL THEY CAN MERGE OVER THE ST LAWRENCE VALLEY AND NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND ON SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. THIS SEEMS TO FIT THE GENERAL IDEA THAT A CONFLUENT FLOW AND AREA FOR MERGING JET STREAMS WILL REMAIN INVOF THE NORTHEAST AND ATLANTIC CANADA THIS MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. ...SENSIBLE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS... BROAD-SCALE WARM UP AHEAD OF THE ARCTIC BOUNDARY WILL CONTAIN A MODIFIED WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO AIRMASS. HEAVY RAINFALL EVENT(S) ARE GATHERING MODEL MOMENTUM AND CONSENSUS INVOF THE MERGING JET STREAMS WITH EMPHASIS ON THE SOUTHERN STREAM'S ABILITY TO GATHER LOW-LEVEL INFLOW OFF THE GULF. THIS BEGINS TO DEVELOP IN EARNEST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS OF TEXAS...EASTERN OKLAHOMA...THE OZARKS EARLY IN THE FORECAST PERIOD. AND THIS WEEKEND INTO MONDAY...THE OHIO VALLEY AND PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND NEW ENGLAND WILL BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MOIST SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. VOJTESAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 @mikebettes TorCon 5...five days in advance! Unheard of! pic.twitter.com/7eFuqEn40b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 If I were the SPC (which I most certainly am not), I might have highlighted the following area for Day 5/Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 ^^ With all the volatility suggested with the deterministic and ensemble guidance as well as capping issues, I believe a conservative approach by the SPC is warranted at this time. They have mentioned the potential and if trends favor an upgrade in the next day or two, we will likely see an outlined area introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yup, no complaints from me with the approach by the SPC, but just throwing in some of my thoughts as to who might be under the gun. Capping (as usual) looks to be issue number one with regards to severe weather, especially if we're clouded over and sea fog is prevalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 It looks like the cap may be too strong for surface based storms to develop as the Euro and Canadian have slowed the cut off upper low a bit and SW flow aloft keeps the cap large and strong across Central and SE Texas via the GFS, but the Euro/Canadian suggest a bit more negative tilt and better dynamics for severe weather and are much 'wetter' and even suggest training showers/storms across Central Texas as a surface low develops. Further N in the cold sector, icy conditions with freezing rain look likely across portions of the Panhandle and Oklahoma and locations further NE. Warm sector heavy training rains may be possible across Arkansas/Tennessee and on E where severe storms have a better chance to develop extending into the SE Region. Another freeze may be possible early next week as well. Late Christmas Day looks changeable as yet another SW upper low approaches from our W and a secondary re enforcing shot of 'colder air' drops S into the Southern Plains on Christmas Eve. It may take another day or two to sort out any severe weather potential for Texas as the short wave that will develop into a robust upper low across Southern California/Baja late Thursday into Friday is further sampled by the RAOB network.The longer range beyond Christmas Day looks very unsettled with several disturbance crossing our Region and perhaps much colder air drops S from Canada into the Inter Mountain West and Plains and a strong storm system ejects out of Mexico with a noisy sub tropical jet. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Looks like SETX gets to play Russian Roulette with the cap. Will it or won't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The 12Z GFS suggests a Del Rio/Austin (Hill Country) Texarkana track of the surface low on Saturday and now has a more of a negative tilt ~vs~ an totally open wave at 500mb. Areas along that surface low track will be where the best dynamics and possible erosion of the cap should take place. It does appear there is a sufficient jet streak that may assist breaking the cap. As always, timing and the eventual track will determine where the severe potential will increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Looking at the very end of the NAM for guidance isn't always the best course of action, but man, the 12Z run is slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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