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Rapid City with 13F, -6F wind chill, 0.5 mile visibility with snow/blowing snow. Accumulations there expected to end up well over a foot. What goes up here goes down there, and vice-versa.

Problem is the vice versa part doesn't happen all too often. Cold, especially anything that lasts more than a couple of days has been hard to come by. I wouldn't mind the record highs if we got a similar amount of record lows.

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I was just about to bring this up, I've never personally seen severe thunderstorm warnings and winter weather advisories in the same place before.

 

Pratt, Kansas had a high of 64 today and has an expected low of 19.  Wondering what this will do to the crops out there, I have no idea what's planted and how much its grown.

 

It was 85 on campus today.  I played frisbee.  Looking forward to some severe weather tomorrow, fingers crossed :)

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I was just about to bring this up, I've never personally seen severe thunderstorm warnings and winter weather advisories in the same place before.

Pratt, Kansas had a high of 64 today and has an expected low of 19. Wondering what this will do to the crops out there, I have no idea what's planted and how much its grown.

It was 85 on campus today. I played frisbee. Looking forward to some severe weather tomorrow, fingers crossed :)

I don't think it's all the unusual out in the plains states. as far as the crops the drought has done alot more damage than the extreme temperature variations

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Problem is the vice versa part doesn't happen all too often. Cold, especially anything that lasts more than a couple of days has been hard to come by. I wouldn't mind the record highs if we got a similar amount of record lows.

 

As for the present weather, Rapid City has about the same latitude as Montpelier, Vermont, an elevation of 3200 feet, and is in the middle of the N. American continent...so things are not exactly on equal footing.  As for the number of record lows...it is likely the same out there as it is around here...though "around here" doesn't include some of the local airports whose climate records have been profoundly distorted by the UHI.

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I could be wrong but I belive the front is still hung up by Boston.. I belive thats why we're still supposed to be near 80 today.

 

The main  front is right over our area currently. But the 6z NAM has another wave coming along front pushing further north later this morning. Sea-breezes though will be keep coastal locations cooler than yesterday:

 

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I was just about to bring this up, I've never personally seen severe thunderstorm warnings and winter weather advisories in the same place before.

 

Pratt, Kansas had a high of 64 today and has an expected low of 19.  Wondering what this will do to the crops out there, I have no idea what's planted and how much its grown.

 

It was 85 on campus today.  I played frisbee.  Looking forward to some severe weather tomorrow, fingers crossed :)

Christmas Day 2002. We had a Severe Thunderstorm Warning with heavy rain and marble sized hail, then the rain quickly changed over to Heavy Snow and we got about 8" of snow. One of the very rare Severe Thunderstorm Warning and Winter Storm Warning combos. Really awesome to see the hail as well, one of the largest hail storms I've ever experienced.

 

Local Severe Weather Reports

 

 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/event.php?date=20130401

 

 

Snow totals from that day

 

================== NEW JERSEY ==================

--- BERGEN COUNTY ---

TEANECK                   8.5     1030 PM 12/25

MAYWOOD                   7.5     1030 PM 12/25

OAKLAND                   7.5     1030 PM 12/25

RIDGEWOOD                 7.5     1030 PM 12/25

FAIRLAWN                  7.2     1030 PM 12/25

RUTHERFORD                7.2     1130 PM 12/25

CLIFFSIDE PARK            7.0      900 PM 12/25

SADDLE BROOK              7.0     1030 PM 12/25

SOUTH HACKENSACK          7.0     1030 PM 12/25

RIVER VALE                6.7     1030 PM 12/25

RAMSEY                    5.8     1030 PM 12/25

HASBROOK HEIGHTS          5.5      730 PM 12/25

WOODRIDGE                 5.5      730 PM 12/25

FORT LEE                  5.0      730 PM 12/25

LODI                      5.0     1030 PM 12/25

LYNDHURST                 4.5      730 PM 12/25

NORTH ARLINGTON           4.5      730 PM 12/25

--- PASSAIC ---

WEST MILFORD             11.5     1030 PM 12/25

LITTLE FALLS              7.2     1100 PM 12/25

POMPTON LAKES             5.9     1030 PM 12/25

WANAQUE                   5.9     1030 PM 12/25

BLOOMDALE                 5.2      830 PM 12/25

HASKELL                   5.2     1030 PM 12/25

WAYNE                     4.0     1030 PM 12/25

CLIFTON                   2.5      500 PM 12/25

--- UNION ---

UNION TOWNSHIP            5.0      730 PM 12/25

CRANFORD                  4.6      915 PM 12/25

ELIZABETH                 3.3     1015 PM 12/25

--- HUDSON ---

HARRISON                  4.5      730 PM 12/25

KEARNY                    4.5     1130 PM 12/25

     

--- ESSEX ---

WEST ORANGE               8.2     1100 PM 12/25

BELLEVILLE                7.0     1130 PM 12/25

WEST CALDWELL             6.0     1110 PM 12/25

NEWARK AIRPORT            3.5     1200 AM 12/26

=================== NEW YORK ===================

--- ALBANY COUNTY ---

EAST BERNE               27.0     1130 PM 12/25

RAVENA                   27.0     1130 PM 12/25

KNOX                     25.0      900 PM 12/25

VOORHEESVILLE            23.4     0730 AM 12/26

COLONIE                  23.0      900 PM 12/25

GREEN ISLAND             22.0     1130 PM 12/25

SOUTH WESTERLO           21.0     1130 PM 12/25

ALBANY                   21.0     0930 AM 12/26

GUILDERLAND              19.1      945 PM 12/25

MEDUSA                   18.2     1130 PM 12/25

COHOES                   18.0     0730 AM 12/26

--- BRONX ---

BRONX                     9.9     1200 AM 12/26

THROGS NECK               5.5      420 AM 12/26

--- BROOME ---

BINGHAMTON AIRPORT 12.7          AM 12/26

CHENANGO BRIDGE 12.2          AM 12/26

CASTLE CREEK 12.0          AM 12/26

BINGHAMTON 11.9          AM 12/26

CHENANGO 11.6          AM 12/26

VESTAL 11.0          AM 12/26

VESTAL CENTER 10.5          AM 12/26

WEST CORNERS   9.4          AM 12/26

WHITNEY POINT   9.2          AM 12/26

KATTELVILLE   8.9          AM 12/26

JOHNSON CITY   8.5          AM 12/26

--- CAYUGA ---

LOCKE   8.0

--- CHAUTAUQUA ---

SHERMAN                   6.0     0700 AM 12/26

SINCLAIRVILLE             6.0     0550 AM 12/26

--- CHEMUNG ---

ALPINE 12.0          AM 12/26

CHEMUNG   7.0          AM 12/26

ELMIRA   6.0          AM 12/26

--- CHENANGO ---

GUILFORD 21.5          AM 12/26

SOUTH NEW BERLIN 21.5          AM 12/26

NORWICH 19.0          AM 12/26

SHERBURNE 14.0          AM 12/26

--- COLUMBIA ---

STUYVESANT               19.2     0930 AM 12/26

KINDERHOOK VILLAGE       15.0     1215 PM 12/25

CHATHAM CENTER           14.0     1130 PM 12/25

COPAKE                   13.8     0930 AM 12/26

EAST CHATHAM             13.5     0930 AM 12/26

ANCRAM                   13.4     0800 AM 12/26

--- CORTLAND ---

CORTLAND 14.5          AM 12/26

WILLET 10.9          AM 12/26

FREETOWN CORNERS   8.2          AM 12/26

--- DELAWARE ---

WALTON 29.0          AM 12/26

DELHI 28.0          AM 12/26

MASONVILLE 28.0          AM 12/26

MEREDITH 26.0          AM 12/26

ROXBURY 25.9          AM 12/26

DEPOSIT 19.0          AM 12/26

--- DUTCHESS ---

RHINEBECK                16.1     0930 AM 12/26

CLINTON CORNERS          15.0     1110 PM 12/25

RED HOOK                 14.5     0930 AM 12/26

TIVOLI                   14.0     0930 AM 12/26

STORMVILLE               13.2     0930 AM 12/26

POUGHKEEPSIE             11.2     0930 AM 12/26

BOSTON CORNERS            8.8     0900 AM 12/26

SALT POINT                7.0     1030 PM 12/25

--- ERIE ---

TONAWANDA                 9.0     1200 AM 12/26

EAST AURORA               8.0     0615 AM 12/26

--- FULTON ---

NORTHVILLE               14.9     0930 AM 12/26

--- GREENE ---

PRATTSVILLE 29.0

PLATTE CLOVE             23.2     0930 AM 12/26

ROUND TOP                22.0     1130 PM 12/25

CLIMAX                   20.5     1130 PM 12/25

WINDHAM                  20.0     0930 AM 12/26

CAIRO                    18.3     0930 AM 12/26

ASHLAND                  16.0     1130 PM 12/25

CATSKILL                 16.0     1030 PM 12/25

--- HAMILTON ---

PISECO                    7.5     0930 AM 12/26

INDIAN LAKE               7.0     0930 AM 12/26

--- HERKIMER ---

LITTLE FALLS             36.0     1055 PM 12/25

CEDARVILLE               34.0     0730 AM 12/26

MOHAWK                   30.8      815 PM 12/25

--- LEWIS ---

HIGHMARKET                3.7     0622 AM 12/26

--- LIVINGSTON ---

AVON                      4.0     0700 AM 12/26

--- MADISON ---

MORRISVILLE 14.3          AM 12/26

--- MONTGOMERY ---

GLEN                     25.0     1130 PM 12/25

AMSTERDAM                24.0     1130 PM 12/25

ST. JOHNSVILLE           24.0     1130 PM 12/25

--- NASSAU ---

WEST HEMPSTEAD           11.5      100 AM 12/26

NORTH MERRICK            11.0      100 AM 12/26

FLORAL PARK               9.8     1200 AM 12/26

WANTAGH                   9.6      530 AM 12/26

FARMINGDALE               9.5     1110 PM 12/25

VALLEY STREAM             9.2      930 PM 12/25

LEVITTOWN                 8.8     1135 PM 12/25

FRANKLIN SQUARE           8.5     1030 PM 12/25

ROCKVILLE CENTER          8.5     1150 PM 12/25

BETHPAGE                  8.1     1220 AM 12/26

FARMINGDALE (2)           7.2     1100 PM 12/25

LIDO BEACH                7.0     1115 PM 12/25

GREAT NECK                6.0     1140 PM 12/25

NEW HYDE PARK             4.0      805 PM 12/25

WANTAGH                   4.0      715 PM 12/25

BALDWIN                   2.0      630 PM 12/25

OYSTER BAY                2.0      630 PM 12/25

--- NEW YORK ---

CENTRAL PARK ZOO          5.0     1200 AM 12/26

--- NIAGARA ---

N TONAWANDA               7.7     1250 AM 12/26

YOUNGSTOWN                4.4     0740 AM 12/26

--- ONEIDA ---

BOONVILLE   8.2          AM 12/26

CAMDEN   6.3          AM 12/26

--- ONONDAGA ---

SYRACUSE AIRPORT 10.3          AM 12/26

--- ORANGE ---

TUXEDO PARK              16.0     0630 AM 12/26

HIGHLAND MILLS           14.0     1030 PM 12/25

BLOOMING GROVE           13.5      815 PM 12/25

CHESTER                  13.0      800 PM 12/25

CAMPBELL HALL            11.0      710 PM 12/25

MIDDLETOWN (2)           10.0      700 PM 12/25

WALDEN                   10.0      530 PM 12/25

WARWICK                  10.0      900 PM 12/25

NEWBURGH                  9.8      630 PM 12/25

SPARROW BUSH              9.0      700 PM 12/25

MIDDLETOWN                7.5      630 PM 12/25

MONROE                    6.0      400 PM 12/25

--- OSWEGO ---

WEST MONROE               4.5     0740 AM 12/26

--- OTSEGO ---

CHERRY VALLEY 39.0 AM 12/26

COOPERSTOWN 30.0          AM 12/26

ONEONTA 30.0          AM 12/26

MORRIS 26.0          AM 12/26

--- PUTNAM ---

COLD SPRING              15.0     1200 AM 12/26

CARMEL                   13.0     1100 PM 12/25

MAHOPAC                  10.0      925 PM 12/25

PUTNAM VALLEY             4.0      700 PM 12/25

--- QUEENS ---

BAYSIDE                   8.0     1145 PM 12/25

LAGUARDIA AIRPORT         6.1     1200 AM 12/26

FRESH MEADOW              5.5      715 PM 12/25

JFK AIRPORT               5.0     1200 AM 12/26

--- RENSSELAER ---

AVERILL PARK             17.0     0615 AM 12/26

--- ROCKLAND ---

SPARKILL                  9.3     1030 PM 12/25

CONGERS                   8.0      915 PM 12/25

NANUET                    8.0      730 PM 12/25

VALLEY COTTAGE            7.0      620 PM 12/25

NEW CITY                  3.0      530 PM 12/25

--- SARATOGA ---

GALWAY                   22.6     0800 AM 12/26

JONESVILLE               24.0     1130 PM 12/25

BALLSTON SPA             22.0     0730 AM 12/26

MALTA                    22.0     1130 PM 12/25

SARATOGA SPRINGS         22.0      900 PM 12/25

HARMONY CORNERS          21.5     0900 AM 12/26

CLIFTON PARK             18.2     0930 AM 12/26

--- SCHENECTADY ---

NISKAYUNA                25.0     0800 AM 12/26

SCOTIA                   23.0      100 AM 12/26

EAST GLENVILLE           23.7     0830 AM 12/26

SCHENECTADY              21.0     1015 PM 12/25

GLENVILLE                20.0     1130 PM 12/25

ROTTERDAM                20.0      830 PM 12/25

--- SCHOHARIE ---

COBLESKILL               23.0     0930 AM 12/26

FULTON                   25.0     1130 PM 12/25

WEST CONESVILLE          22.5     1130 PM 12/25

NORTH BLENHEIM           21.0     0930 AM 12/26

JEFFERSON                20.0     1130 PM 12/25

GILBOA                   19.0     1130 PM 12/25

--- SCHUYLER ---

MECKLENBURG   9.0          AM 12/26

--- STEUBEN ---

HORNELL   8.5          AM 12/26

CORNING   6.6          AM 12/26

         

--- SUFFOLK ---

DIX HILLS                 9.0     1155 PM 12/25

CENTEREACH                8.5      135 AM 12/26

NORTH BABYLON             8.0     1030 PM 12/25

RONKONKOMA                7.9      300 AM 12/26

HUNTINGTON                7.5     1100 PM 12/25

HOLBROOK                  7.5     1200 AM 12/26

LINDENHURST               6.5      915 PM 12/25

SMITHTOWN                 6.3     1200 AM 12/26

PORT JEFFERSON STATION    4.5     1245 AM 12/26

ST JAMES                  4.5     1100 PM 12/25

EAST SETAUKET             4.0     1100 PM 12/25

NWS UPTON                 3.2      100 AM 12/26

WEST BABYLON              3.0      810 PM 12/25

PORT JEFFERSON            2.0      900 PM 12/25

BAITING HOLLOW            1.0      930 PM 12/25

--- SULLIVAN ---

LIBERTY 31.0          AM 12/26

ROCK HILL 17.8          AM 12/26

BLOOMINGBURG 13.2          AM 12/26

--- TIOGA ---

OAKLEY CORNERS 10.3          AM 12/26

WAVERLY   9.0          AM 12/26

SPENCER   8.9          AM 12/26

APALACHIN   8.4          AM 12/26

BERKSHIRE   8.3          AM 12/26

--- TOMPKINS ---

CORNELL UNIVERSITY 11.3          AM 12/26

--- ULSTER ---

SHANDAKEN                18.0      945 PM 12/25

SLIDE MOUNTAIN           17.0     0930 AM 12/26

NEW PALTZ                13.5     0930 AM 12/26

PHOENICIA                12.5     0930 AM 12/26

BEARSVILLE               11.8     0930 AM 12/26

ESOPUS                   11.0     1110 PM 12/25

KINGSTON                 11.0     0930 AM 12/26

TILLSON                  11.0     0930 AM 12/26

WEST SHOKAN              10.9     0930 AM 12/26

ELLENVILLE               10.5     0930 AM 12/26

SAUGERTIES               10.0     0930 AM 12/26

--- WARREN ---

GLENS FALLS              19.0     1130 PM 12/25

BOLTON LANDING           10.2     0930 AM 12/26

WARRENSBURG               9.6     0930 AM 12/26

NORTH CREEK               8.0     0930 AM 12/26

--- WASHINGTON ---

ARGYLE                   20.0     1130 PM 12/25

GRANVILLE                19.5     1130 PM 12/25

WHITEHALL                15.0     0930 AM 12/26

SHUSHAN                   6.5     0930 AM 12/26

--- WESTCHESTER ---

TARRYTOWN                11.0      915 PM 12/25

PLEASANTVILLE            10.0      930 PM 12/25

WHITE PLAINS              8.5     1130 PM 12/25

YONKERS                   8.0      930 PM 12/25

YORKTOWN HEIGHTS          8.0      830 PM 12/25

 

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00z Euro 2M temps look seasonable with a slight warmup early next week before another back door cold front.

 

If anything the pattern over the next week looks very stormy as a parade of storm systems cut to our north and west.

Yeah I think we're in for a fairly wet remainder of the month but we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if we turned warm and dry as well

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Yeah I think we're in for a fairly wet remainder of the month but we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if we turned warm and dry as well

The 00z Euro was west of the 00z GGEM and the 00z GFS with the track of another surface low next week. Small differences in the track of that surface low and the strength of the SE ridge are going to have large effects on our weather.

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Wind Advisory just issued for LI and Coastal CT:


CTZ009>012-NYZ078>081-177-179-121800-
/O.NEW.KOKX.WI.Y.0005.130412T1147Z-130412T1800Z/
SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-
SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-
SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHERN NASSAU-
SOUTHERN NASSAU-
747 AM EDT FRI APR 12 2013

...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A WIND
ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON.

* LOCATIONS...COASTAL CONNECTICUT AND LONG ISLAND.

* HAZARDS...STRONG WINDS.

* WINDS...EAST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH.

* TIMING...THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL OCCUR THROUGH LATE MORNING.

* IMPACTS...THESE WINDS COULD BRING DOWN TREE BRANCHES AND LIMBS.
  DRIVING MAY BE DIFFICULT...ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED ROADS AND
  BRIDGES FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS OF 31 TO 39 MPH...
OR GUSTS OF 46 TO 57 MPH...ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. WINDS THIS
STRONG CAN MAKE DRIVING DIFFICULT...ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE
VEHICLES. USE EXTRA CAUTION.

&&

$$

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Wind Advisory just issued for LI and Coastal CT:

CTZ009>012-NYZ078>081-177-179-121800-

/O.NEW.KOKX.WI.Y.0005.130412T1147Z-130412T1800Z/

SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX-

SOUTHERN NEW LONDON-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-

SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-NORTHERN NASSAU-

SOUTHERN NASSAU-

747 AM EDT FRI APR 12 2013

...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON HAS ISSUED A WIND

ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON.

* LOCATIONS...COASTAL CONNECTICUT AND LONG ISLAND.

* HAZARDS...STRONG WINDS.

* WINDS...EAST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH.

* TIMING...THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL OCCUR THROUGH LATE MORNING.

* IMPACTS...THESE WINDS COULD BRING DOWN TREE BRANCHES AND LIMBS.

  DRIVING MAY BE DIFFICULT...ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED ROADS AND

  BRIDGES FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS OF 31 TO 39 MPH...

OR GUSTS OF 46 TO 57 MPH...ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. WINDS THIS

STRONG CAN MAKE DRIVING DIFFICULT...ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE

VEHICLES. USE EXTRA CAUTION.

&&

$$

Getting super nasty right now

 

Post observations and discussion about the winds and rain here

 

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/39972-april-12th-heavy-rainwind-event/

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