MJO812 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Just give me 70s for the rest of the summer. No 80s or 90s at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Why would anyone want to be under a huge ridge. We'll have plenty of heat in the months ahead, so ill gladly accept this coolish weather. It's actually pretty seasonable to slightly below normal and this weekend and Monday will be above so what's the problem. Why the rush for 90s, 80s, and even 70s. Because that's what i want. Winter is over, lets move on. A huge ridge in April means 70's and low 80's maybe. Not 90's yet What you want doesn't matter to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 0z GFS looks awful for a late season winter storm and produces and east coast ridge in the longgg range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm At Sea Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Time to let it go. 0z GFS looks awful for a late season winter storm and produces and east coast ridge in the longgg range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Time to let it go. Let what go. I just said I want spring to come with 70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I just want one more snowstorm but that looks unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 admitting it is the first step I just want one more snowstorm but that looks unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 The 00z Euro and the 06z GFS remained worlds apart. The 06z GFS continues to advertise a strong coastal storm for the April 4-5th time frame. (Yes I do realize this run is rain, c'mon it's a 204hr forecast) The Euro has nothing for the same time frame. Taking a look at the long range Euro 2M temps, we could hit the low 70's on April 5th if taken verbatim. 06z GFS coastal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Time to let it go. He's on board for warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 For those wishcasting for the warmth let me just say this. It probably won't snow again until December. Snow is no gurantee, in fact you could theoretically go an entire winter without any snow. The warm weather will not be denied, it will get here eventually, it's a certainty. So when the chance comes up for one last gasp of snow, I say why not. Just taking a quick look at the 06z GEFS ensembles. Large storm signal once again for a miller A type storm to track along the southern gulf states and then off the Mid-Atlantic Coast in the 8-9 day range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Either they don't work outside or they have no electric bills?? oy-vey yea- when they live at home under the folks roof - let them foot the bill - big OY -VEYwith ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 yea- when they live at home under the folks roof - let them foot the bill - big OY -VEYwith ya I live in midtown Manhattan without A/C. Some of y'all are just weak. Spend a summer in DC or central VA and get back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The Euro control run has Miller A for April 7-8th. But it's inland runner until it's over NJ, and there is no cold air around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 I live in midtown Manhattan without A/C. Some of y'all are just weak. Spend a summer in DC or central VA and get back to me. How do you sleep at night without AC in Mid-town during the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The 00z Euro and the 06z GFS remained worlds apart. The 06z GFS continues to advertise a strong coastal storm for the April 4-5th time frame. (Yes I do realize this run is rain, c'mon it's a 204hr forecast) The Euro has nothing for the same time frame. Taking a look at the long range Euro 2M temps, we could hit the low 70's on April 5th if taken verbatim. 06z GFS coastal Euro does not have 70s. The coast remains in the 50s the whole run except for 1 day on April 7th (which is SUPER fantasy range), where the coast hits 60-65 degrees. On April 5th, the euro is 53-54 degrees for NYC and 55-60 degrees for NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 The Euro control run has Miller A for April 7-8th. But it's inland runner until it's over NJ, and there is no cold air around. Looks just like the 06z GFS then. Plenty of time but would not surprise me at all if the end result is a big rainer. I'll take it, it allows you to appreciate the noreaster a bit more in all it's glory when you're not just focusing on the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Euro does not have 70s. The coast remains in the 50s the whole run except for 1 day on April 7th (which is SUPER fantasy range), where the coast hits 60-65 degrees. On April 5th, the euor is 53-54 degrees for NYC and 55-60 degrees for N. Yeah ummm.... where in my post did I say I was talking about the coast? It keeps Long Island in the 50's but surges 90% of NJ into the upper 60's. That's why I said low 70's were possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You can wishcast for warmth all you want. The ULL in SE Canada refuses to leave, even on the Euro which was the more progressive between the GFS and the EC. Both models however have ridging over Greenland. Sorry dude, I'm just not with you on this one. Yesterday you said that the blocking in the medium range mirrors that of the blocking we saw last week. That's so ridiculously off, I don't know where to start. The positive height anomalies over Greenland are only caused by the ridge axis pumped ahead of the upper level low moving through SE Canada. There is no sustained ridge from Greenland through Canada or over the EPO region. The pattern could linger, yes, before we transition to warmth. But as far as strong high latitude blocking, what are you looking at? http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSHGTAVGNH_6z/f168.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yeah ummm.... where in my post did I say I was talking about the coast? Nobody gets near 70 degrees on April 5th. The only day that is near 70 degrees for NJ is April 7th, which like I said is super fantasy range for any model. Stormvista maps are nowhere near enough detail to be able to guess the surface temps. These are surface temps on April 5th at 18z (2:00pm): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I just want one more snowstorm but that looks unlikely. what ya do over at the other place ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 How do you sleep at night without AC in Mid-town during the summer? Not gonna lie some nights it sucks. We'll have to see how this summer goes, if we are into some consistent 90s in May/early June I might fold. I have a pretty high heat tolerance, but upper 80s/low 90s at night is beyond my threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Sorry dude, I'm just not with you on this one. Yesterday you said that the blocking in the medium range mirrors that of the blocking we saw last week. That's so ridiculously off, I don't know where to start. The positive height anomalies over Greenland are only caused by the ridge axis pumped ahead of the upper level low moving through SE Canada. There is no sustained ridge from Greenland through Canada or over the EPO region. The pattern could linger, yes, before we transition to warmth. But as far as strong high latitude blocking, what are you looking at? http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSHGTAVGNH_6z/f168.gif I based it off this graphic from yesterday, both comments were made yesterday. Maybe I'm wrong but the way this looks, I see no sustained warmups on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Nobody gets near 70 degrees on April 5th. The only day that is near 70 degrees for NJ is April 7th, which like I said is super fantasy range for any model. Stormvista maps are nowhere near enough detail to be able to guess the surface temps. These are surface temps on April 5th at 18z (2:00pm): My graphic, I was off by a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Not gonna lie some nights it sucks. We'll have to see how this summer goes, if we are into some consistent 90s in May/early June I might fold. I have a pretty high heat tolerance, but upper 80s/low 90s at night is beyond my threshold. Are you not allowed to have a window air condition? Hope you keep your blinds closed at night living in those high rises lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Not gonna lie some nights it sucks. We'll have to see how this summer goes, if we are into some consistent 90s in May/early June I might fold. I have a pretty high heat tolerance, but upper 80s/low 90s at night is beyond my threshold. Same, a fan is usually enough for me, but it's no help when you're trying to sleep though upper 80's/low-mid 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Same, a fan is usually enough for me, but it's no help when you're trying to sleep though upper 80's/low-mid 90's. I hate air condition in general. I'm always the guy driving with my top down when it's in the 90's but when it comes to sleeping it's a must. I don't know how I would deal without it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I based it off this graphic from yesterday, both comments were made yesterday. Maybe I'm wrong but the way this looks, I see no sustained warmups on the way Very weak blocking is not gonna get it done in April. The pattern is clearly starting to break down. Yes there could be a east coast storm but the chances of snow are lower than low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Very weak blocking is not gonna get it done in April. The pattern is clearly starting to break down. Yes there could be a east coast storm but the chances of snow are lower than low Yeah I never said the chances of snow were high, just that the pattern doesn't support a sustained warm up. I love the warm just like everyone else. The sun felt great this morning. It would be nice to get a miller A up this way even if it only brings heavy rain and wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 what ya do over at the other place ? Accuweather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Are you not allowed to have a window air condition? Hope you keep your blinds closed at night living in those high rises lol haha, we're allowed, I'm just cheap. I'm only the 3rd floor and face into the block, so there is a lot of shade and some trees and generally some sort of breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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