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stale marginal cold air and a prolonged onshore flow in the month of March does not make for  snowstorm along I -95 - example ash wednesday 1962 - NYC got no snow

I agree but we are not dealing with strong onshore winds, there is a reinforcing block of confuence over New England and the winds are out of the NNE-NE if the Euro is correct. It has support from the GFS ensembles as well.

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stale marginal cold air and a prolonged onshore flow in the month of March does not make for  snowstorm along I -95 - example ash wednesday 1962 - NYC got no snow

they also got no precipitation...0.05" of precip fell with 1" of snow in southern Brooklyn...It was a wet snow that stuck to building facades due to the strong winds...

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the Ash Wed. storm came after one of the coldest early March outbreaks on record...it's not happening...I said this twelve years ago when JB was using it as an analog because there was no arctic air anywhere and I don't see any now...

 

 

the Ash Wed. storm came after one of the coldest early March outbreaks on record...it's not happening...I said this twelve years ago when JB was using it as an analog because there was no arctic air anywhere and I don't see any now...

Can you post the dailies for early March 1962?

 

Temps do look slightly below average to start March 2013 but nothing extreme...all the really cold air is on the Asian side with the block over the Pole extending towards Greenland. Brutal cold in SIberia. 

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I think you need to grow up and stop acting like a little punk - not a good idea to be laughing at people and telling them they shouldn't post - very immature - you are now 24 years old time to start acting like a man

 

You used the Ash Wednesday storm as an example of a stale March airmass not giving NYC any snow. However, this was completely wrong: parts of southern Brooklyn did get 1" of snow, and the reason for the lack of snow wasn't the airmass, it was the lack of precipitation. If you actually did your research before posting, you'd know the Ash Wednesday storm was a mid-Atlantic storm. It didn't make it up here for the most part.

 

Think before you post. And your personal insult will be reported. 

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Can you post the dailies for early March 1962?

 

Temps do look slightly below average to start March 2013 but nothing extreme...all the really cold air is on the Asian side with the block over the Pole extending towards Greenland. Brutal cold in SIberia. 

March 1962...

day...max...min...precip...snow...

01.....41.....17........0........0

02.....29.....12........0........0

03.....36.....11........0........0 tied record low...

04.....38.....16........0........0

05.....39.....29........T........T

06.....38.....34......0.05...0.2

07.....42.....34........0........0

08.....43.....32........0........0

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more wishcasting from the NYC trash heap

 

Yep, its over folks. The lobe over the Lakes that could have brought this one north is no longer on any modeling. All you get is a bowling ball that rolls ESE. Theres nothing to reinforce the strength of the low so even if it came north a bit precip rates wouldn't be heavy enough for sticking snow anyway. 

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Yep, its over folks. The lobe over the Lakes that could have brought this one north is no longer on any modeling. All you get is a bowling ball that rolls ESE. Theres nothing to reinforce the strength of the low so even if it came north a bit precip rates wouldn't be heavy enough for sti. cking snow anyway.

. Wow already throwing in the towel when nothing has been sampled yet and models arent even in reliable range wow!
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. Wow already throwing in the towel when nothing has been sampled yet and models arent even in reliable range wow!

plenty of models are in their reliable range and not one is showing accumulating snow anywhere near nyc..nor have they been for days...you can believe otherwise but the writings on the wall

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plenty of models are in their reliable range and not one is showing accumulating snow anywhere near nyc..nor have they been for days...you can believe otherwise but the writings on the wall

. My point is dont give up yet! Many times when things get better sampled models pick up on that and outcomes change! Optimistic approach
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