pazzo83 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Thank you, temperature wise, of course in most cases there isn't going to be a huge difference. But it does matter when it's 34 and rain in the city and 30 and snow in White Plains. I was never arguing about snow. Hell there can be huge differences in snow just inside Manhattan (compare around Colombia to the East Village/LES). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingofQueens Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yea Columbia generally gets more snow than my area in Queens (Elmhurst) in marginal events. Columbia had around 4-5 inches for the November storm whilst rain/mixing held totals to 2 inches in Elmhurst. In a lot of the other marginal events this yr, Columbia has usually had more and the snow seems to stay longer there. I think it being north and west helps but the morningside heights area also has decent elevation (i don't know how much difference 100 ft plays but it might in these 33 and rain situations we have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 If you want a good lesson just snoop through the Philly long range thread. What a collection of mets, including mets that work directly for the NWS and HPC. Why can't we get any of those guys to post in this forum? Oh wait....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Though not being far from the heat island effects of Brooklyn and Manhattan my area can be much colder on clear calm nights as witnessed by this mornings low of 27 here and 35 in central park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Though not being far from the heat island effects of Brooklyn and Manhattan my area can be much colder on clear calm nights as witnessed by this mornings low of 27 here and 35 in central park same here...When i lived in Brooklyn my minimums were almost never colder than Central Park being I was located in a cement jungle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 same here...When i lived in Brooklyn my minimums were almost never colder than Central Park being I was located in a cement jungle... Staten Island is definitely impacted less by the urban heat island than the other boroughs. Has some good elevation throughout too. The biggest issue for Staten Island is mainly the proximity to water bodies obviously including the Atlantic ocean. This aspect of it's geographical location has way more influence than any urban heat island effects but I don't have to tell that to the folks who live there and are uber knowledgeable of weather like yourself lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 If you want a good lesson just snoop through the Philly long range thread. What a collection of mets, including mets that work directly for the NWS and HPC. Why can't we get any of those guys to post in this forum? Oh wait....... For one, you don't see any of the bickering and trolling that you get plenty of here. Nor do mets in those other forums have to worry about being trolled for not buying into a big snow scenario or cold. The atmosphere here is nastier and more negative than it is on other forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 For one, you don't see any of the bickering and trolling that you get plenty of here. Nor do mets in those other forums have to worry about being trolled for not buying into a big snow scenario or cold. The atmosphere here is nastier and more negative than it is on other forums. The sense of entitlement in this forum is one of the biggest challenges for the moderators. It's pretty mind boggling, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 For one, you don't see any of the bickering and trolling that you get plenty of here. Nor do mets in those other forums have to worry about being trolled for not buying into a big snow scenario or cold. The atmosphere here is nastier and more negative than it is on other forums. I credit Adam for running a tight ship. If you get out of line the 5 post threats start flowing like lava out of a volcano. I know because it happened to me two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 The sense of entitlement in this forum is one of the biggest challenges for the moderators. It's pretty mind boggling, to be honest. In my opinion it has a lot to do with the NYC mentality that they live in the center of the universe and are better than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 In my opinion it has a lot to do with the NYC mentality that they live in the center of the universe and are better than everyone else. I don't live in NYC but I'm close enough and I certainly don't think I am better than anyone. I just want snow, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 In my opinion it has a lot to do with the NYC mentality that they live in the center of the universe and are better than everyone else. It's also because alot of the people in here weren't around in the 80s and early 90s and expect a KU storm every winter and every time we get into a good pattern. It's fine to talk about the potential but bitching and moaning because it doesn't produce or complaining is pointless and contributes to the disastrous threads we've had around here lately. I mean its the weather, its going to do what it wants to do. Eventually you just learn to accept it or move :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 It's also because alot of the people in here weren't around in the 80s and early 90s and expect a KU storm every winter and every time we get into a good pattern. It's fine to talk about the potential but bitching and moaning because it doesn't produce or complaining is fruitless. I mean its the weather, its going to do what it wants to do. Eventually you just learn to accept it or move :-) Oy the 80's, very early and very late 90's those years were friggin' awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm At Sea Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Despite my extremely high regard for many of the professionals that have been posting on the PHL forum, the tendency is for a significant amount of intellectualized banter and over-sophistication to suit personal needs. There is also, at times, face-saving attempts through discussion of material which is, frankly, beyond the understanding of most amateurs (and many pros as well), which leads to the "ohhhh and ahhh" reaction by many. I think the recent disaster in Boston ( I don't think they even had an ob with mod. snow during that one) was quite sobering for some. I also think that it does not take a pro or a top notch meteorologist to suggest, given all of the elements on the table, that another decent snow event is quite possible for mid March (again, mid March can mean a lot of things...March 8? March 20?). Just throwing that out there as food for thought. If you want a good lesson just snoop through the Philly long range thread. What a collection of mets, including mets that work directly for the NWS and HPC. Why can't we get any of those guys to post in this forum? Oh wait....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 In my opinion it has a lot to do with the NYC mentality that they live in the center of the universe and are better than everyone else. As an outsider (from VA), I've noticed this with a lot of things here, not just the weather (not to take this way off-topic but it is the banter thread). The Knicks/Yanks/Rangers etc are supposed to win it all every year / the food here is better than anywhere (I'd say this is true a lot of the times, but someone was trying to argue with me once that NYC had better Philly cheesesteaks than Philly, and having lived in both cities, I was pretty dumbfounded) / etc etc. The funny thing is there is no shortage of b*tching about the very same things. Funny place NY is, I do love it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonli18t Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 As an outsider (from VA), I've noticed this with a lot of things here, not just the weather (not to take this way off-topic but it is the banter thread). The Knicks/Yanks/Rangers etc are supposed to win it all every year the knicks haven't won in 41 years. so they definitely aren't "supposed" to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 the knicks haven't won in 41 years. so they definitely aren't "supposed" to win. Yea but that seems to be the mentality. Look I'm a wizards "fan" (if I had to pick an NBA team), so I get that aspect of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 As an outsider (from VA), I've noticed this with a lot of things here, not just the weather (not to take this way off-topic but it is the banter thread). The Knicks/Yanks/Rangers etc are supposed to win it all every year / the food here is better than anywhere (I'd say this is true a lot of the times, but someone was trying to argue with me once that NYC had better Philly cheesesteaks than Philly, and having lived in both cities, I was pretty dumbfounded) / etc etc. The funny thing is there is no shortage of b*tching about the very same things. Funny place NY is, I do love it though. Couldn't agree more, outside of the Yanks no NY team has won anything in decades. The Giants and Jets are NY by name only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Couldn't agree more, outside of the Yanks no NY team has won anything in decades. The Giants and Jets are NY by name only. Speaking of the Yanks, that AL East this year is going to be a hell of a battle. I think my Nats should be running the NL East, but the Braves are looking good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 You guys ignoring the noreasters of the world as to why more mets dont post here is baffling lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yea but that seems to be the mentality. Look I'm a wizards "fan" (if I had to pick an NBA team), so I get that aspect of it. It is very true. When I was a kid and the Yankees sucked thats just the way it was. But now they're not allowed to be bad. The Mets are mostly disappointing but people expect that this 'will be the year' Same with the Jets. The Giants are the only team that nobody expects to win but then against all odds they actually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 It is very true. When I was a kid and the Yankees sucked thats just the way it was. But now they're not allowed to be bad. The Mets are mostly disappointing but people expect that this 'will be the year' Same with the Jets. The Giants are the only team that nobody expects to win but then against all odds they actually do. Good stat .... Even when the Yankees sucked in th 80`s they more games than any other team in that decade , just didnt win a WS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/forum/7-sports-zone/ Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Good stat .... Even when the Yankees sucked in th 80`s they more games than any other team in that decade , just didnt win a WS . Yep...but 89-92 was just painful. And I went to the most games then...everytime they won it was so satisfying but they just couldn't string anything together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Speaking of the Yanks, that AL East this year is going to be a hell of a battle. I think my Nats should be running the NL East, but the Braves are looking good too. I'm picking Baltimore or Toronto to win the AL East and for the Yankees to win 87 games and get in on a wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkviking Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 If you want a good lesson just snoop through the Philly long range thread. What a collection of mets, including mets that work directly for the NWS and HPC. Why can't we get any of those guys to post in this forum? Oh wait....... I do notice a decrease in redtaggers in this forum but we got we have some of best non-met contributors on the board: Don S, Isotherm, Bluewave, Sacrus, Uncle W, to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser25973 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Are we using KNYC as the measuring stick here? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Staten Island is definitely impacted less by the urban heat island than the other boroughs. Has some good elevation throughout too. The biggest issue for Staten Island is mainly the proximity to water bodies obviously including the Atlantic ocean. This aspect of it's geographical location has way more influence than any urban heat island effects but I don't have to tell that to the folks who live there and are uber knowledgeable of weather like yourself lol. there's two sides to the island divided by hills almost 400ft in spots...The east side is cooler in the summer...the only wind direction that doesn't effected me by downsloping is from the southwest...during marginal snow events I get a little more than when I lived in Brooklyn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser25973 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Despite my extremely high regard for many of the professionals that have been posting on the PHL forum, the tendency is for a significant amount of intellectualized banter and over-sophistication to suit personal needs. There is also, at times, face-saving attempts through discussion of material which is, frankly, beyond the understanding of most amateurs (and many pros as well), which leads to the "ohhhh and ahhh" reaction by many. I think the recent disaster in Boston ( I don't think they even had an ob with mod. snow during that one) was quite sobering for some. I also think that it does not take a pro or a top notch meteorologist to suggest, given all of the elements on the table, that another decent snow event is quite possible for mid March (again, mid March can mean a lot of things...March 8? March 20?). Just throwing that out there as food for thought. Possible does not equal probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser25973 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 My statement reflects my opinion, which is an un-educated guess based upon this winter and previous winters which also sucked, that KNYC will NOT, I repeat NOT see another snow event with 4"+ until Autumn 2013. Whether that happens in October, November or December, I don't know anything about the upcoming season to even make a guess. But as far as winter is concerned, the snow is over. I do see a great deal of solid evidence, however; that we're gonna be cold - which is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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