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Well....I'm certainly glad to see my recruited red-tagger, Jeff Jumper has joined our fray.  Welcome to him.  I look forward very much to his participation in the weeks and months to come.  When I met Jeff 2 weeks ago I didn't know that another local TV met, Matt Moore, had also recently joined us.  How fantastic is that?  By the way, they're both easy to remember....one is MM, the other, JJ.....lol.

 

My own feeling on tomorrow's event is that I think it will end up surprising us on the high side.  I have no scientific reasoning whatsoever behind this comment.  It's just that we've been short-changed so many times this winter that the odds have to favor some event that is expected to underperform, be our surprise.  So, I like Zach's 3-6 forecast.  No, I'm not expecting six at all.  But 4"....maybe, yes.  It'll be the lovely wet snow with the big huge flakes that sticks to everything.  I think it will begin sticking to the streets pretty quickly after dark...and wet snow can accumulate pretty quickly even though it also compacts pretty quicly afterwards as well.  So, let's see how this plays out.

 

Down to 29.3 degrees, dew point 23, clear skies and calm winds.

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Well....I'm certainly glad to see my recruited red-tagger, Jeff Jumper has joined our fray.  Welcome to him.  I look forward very much to his participation in the weeks and months to come.  When I met Jeff 2 weeks ago I didn't know that another local TV met, Matt Moore, had also recently joined us.  How fantastic is that?  By the way, they're both easy to remember....one is MM, the other, JJ.....lol.

 

My own feeling on tomorrow's event is that I think it will end up surprising us on the high side.  I have no scientific reasoning whatsoever behind this comment.  It's just that we've been short-changed so many times this winter that the odds have to favor some event that is expected to underperform, be our surprise.  So, I like Zach's 3-6 forecast.  No, I'm not expecting six at all.  But 4"....maybe, yes.  It'll be the lovely wet snow with the big huge flakes that sticks to everything.  I think it will begin sticking to the streets pretty quickly after dark...and wet snow can accumulate pretty quickly even though it also compacts pretty quicly afterwards as well.  So, let's see how this plays out.

 

Down to 29.3 degrees, dew point 23, clear skies and calm winds.

 

I'm glad to see some more red taggers in our forum as well. If PSU8315 and JSTwx were still posting we'd have all the major affiliates  (CBS, NBC, and FOX) in here haha. 

 

Hopefully we can hold off the majority of precip from starting until later afternoon or around dark. If it comes early, it will definitely have trouble accumulating (or perhaps even starting as rain) given the surface temps unless there's some heavier rates involved. I'm not going to use the sun as an excuse until like.. beginning of March, but it is starting to get late enough in the winter that in these marginal temp situations with lighter precip there is a few hours (late morning/early afternoon) where the sun can make it's presence known. It does seem like most precip comes after dark though, so hopefully we won't waste too much of what we get.

 

Right now i'm thinking this is a general 1-2" underneath I-80 for most folks with a thin stripe of 3-4 straddling near the Mason-Dixon Line where the heavier precip has been residing on models. Hopin for a late trend to the wetter side. 

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Hey!! When the new guy come on board? :) It is an amazing sight seeing all the red taggers in our forum! Welcome to our humble CPA thread, hopefully you enjoy your stay with our great weather community. We are a friendly little bunch......Sorry for the bad news Sauss, hope all goes well to you and your family :(

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I hope you don't mind me posting in here, I live right along the Mason Dixon line.  This storm is hard to pin down being such a small vort in the flow.  I do not think the euro is right, but my worry is that the NAM and RGEM coming in dryer and kind of disorganized until late means we might end up with a compromise between the euro and the GFS/NAM runs of the last few days.  That won't work for us, we need a dynamic system or its going to be 35 with light rain/snow mix and no accumulations.  This has to be a thump.  Hope the GFS comes in wet and puts some of my fear to rest but I have always felt nervous having the euro staring us down like that. 

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I'm glad to see some more red taggers in our forum as well. If PSU8315 and JSTwx were still posting we'd have all the major affiliates  (CBS, NBC, and FOX) in here haha. 

 

Hopefully we can hold off the majority of precip from starting until later afternoon or around dark. If it comes early, it will definitely have trouble accumulating (or perhaps even starting as rain) given the surface temps unless there's some heavier rates involved. I'm not going to use the sun as an excuse until like.. beginning of March, but it is starting to get late enough in the winter that in these marginal temp situations with lighter precip there is a few hours (late morning/early afternoon) where the sun can make it's presence known. It does seem like most precip comes after dark though, so hopefully we won't waste too much of what we get.

 

Right now i'm thinking this is a general 1-2" underneath I-80 for most folks with a thin stripe of 3-4 straddling near the Mason-Dixon Line where the heavier precip has been residing on models. Hopin for a late trend to the wetter side. 

 

Ah yes, unfortunately there's a double-edged sword with a northward jog in any model solution. You get closer to the surface low and you'll also be closer to the warmer air profiles. Sure, you'll have more precip, but if it's not heavy enough to dynamically cool, then it's not going to amount to much more than some slop. I bumped my ranges about 20-30 miles to the south tonight to account for the Euro/CMC and the possibilities of it being drier than modeled. These pesky little shorts can sometimes cause model headaches because they are such subtle little systems. I'm unsure about 3-4 amounts, but I respect your call. For the sake of snow lovers, I'd love to be wrong and someone gets a 5'er, but I just can't see it with marginal BL temps and not a very robust system. 

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