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February 2-3rd 2013 Clipper/Redeveloper


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man, I'm hoping we get more than an 1" on this one.. I'm hoping for a big week next week.

 

I was thinking the same thing...I can deal with these 1-3 type of events when we're adding to snowpack, but since we're starting from bare ground, nothing less than a 4-8, 6-12 type will make up for this epic snowpack disaster.    

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the nam would maybe be better after the run (post 84)...but it's still pretty meh. 

 

 

Yeah not quite like those weenie SREF members that dig the vortmax down into NC/S VA. But still not a bad solution. Again, I think it would be easier to blow this up without that interfering shortwave ahead of it, but alas, beggers can't be choosers and we'll have to try and blow this up despite that s/w. It can be done, but we'll want to root for a stronger s/w diving in and a more meridional flow (better western ridge) as we get closer.

 

 

But I would welcome an advisory event regardless if we can get that.

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Yeah not quite like those weenie SREF members that dig the vortmax down into NC/S VA. But still not a bad solution. Again, I think it would be easier to blow this up without that interfering shortwave ahead of it, but alas, beggers can't be choosers and we'll have to try and blow this up despite that s/w. It can be done, but we'll want to root for a stronger s/w diving in and a more meridional flow (better western ridge) as we get closer.

 

 

But I would welcome an advisory event regardless if we can get that.

yeah i hear ya. i definitely take some snow over nothing - but I guess i'm sort of to the point where i'm kind of looking for a widespread, higher impact deal. 

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huh?

 

Just my thoughts Steve.  I think the system develops too close to us as the primary dives out of Canada and transfers to the secondary just S of LI.  Mid-levels don't get organized fats enough to bring the moisture in from the Atlantic.  This would be a C/NNE system bomb.  Basicall the snow we see on the NAM would WAA type as opposed to CCB.

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R people really expecting a big storm out of this? Seems like a good clipper with some pockets of decent. Like the look and welcome the ground being white again.

 

 

I certainly wouldn't expect a big storm out of this. If everything works out perfect, it can be a little surprise, but that's not what you should expect. There's a reason everything has to work out right to get this to be more than an advisory event for a widspread area.

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Just my thoughts Steve.  I think the system develops too close to us as the primary dives out of Canada and transfers to the secondary just S of LI.  Mid-levels don't get organized fats enough to bring the moisture in from the Atlantic.  This would be a C/NNE system bomb.  Basicall the snow we see on the NAM would WAA type as opposed to CCB.

I was trying to understand the secondary phrase.

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All the posts about the Nam being so bad, hmm. Seems pretty good last couple of storms, it blew the GFS away with QPF this last storm, GFS finally capitulated, unless you got 2-3 of rain?

 

Those were overrunning events, the NAM's QPF can be better on overrunning type systems than the GFS, its one of the types of systems where the NAM sometimes does not overdo QPF.  Still the NAM was too high on QPF on the northern disturbance on the 25th, it nailed the QPF for NC/VA/TN in the overrunning but was way too high with the clipper.

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Those were overrunning events, the NAM's QPF can be better on overrunning type systems than the GFS, its one of the types of systems where the NAM sometimes does not overdo QPF.  Still the NAM was too high on QPF on the northern disturbance on the 25th, it nailed the QPF for NC/VA/TN in the overrunning but was way too high with the clipper.

Last night was over running?

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