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February 2-3rd 2013 Clipper/Redeveloper


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  On 1/31/2013 at 9:54 PM, CoastalWx said:

ERN MA scraper, but a potent look. Nice hit for Phil.

 

The whole thing is just sort of east. The shortwave is initially too progressive for us back here but I'd be cautiously optimistic along the east coast of SNE. Probably a NBD storm back this way.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 9:57 PM, CT Rain said:

The whole thing is just sort of east. The shortwave is initially too progressive for us back here but I'd be cautiously optimistic along the east coast of SNE. Probably a NBD storm back this way.

 

Yeah I mentioned earlier that progression is a concern. I do think this could have potential for the coast and Cape.

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The main energy dug even further this run versus 12z but it didn't quite go gangbusters with the negative tilt like 12z did.

 

I don't think we're done seeing some weenie solutions with the amoutn of energy diving in and the trend of digging it deeper. But just because we see some more weenie solutions doesn't mean we are going to get them...this one is going to be difficult on the models.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 9:59 PM, Ginxy said:

Bombing low moving due North, nice, East/SE 850 inflow over a cold dome, this easily could be much better than the GFS shows.

 

On the flip side, it could easily not be as promising, and either blow up a little further east missing a lot of people or simply not at all.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 9:54 PM, Zeus said:

Yeah... this isn't going to get hooked in as much, looks like.

 

The hook has been a figment of model imagination for 2 weeks with these systems.  Always pops up on the GFS at least a run or two.

 

This track seems very reasonable, I still worry about more east with the GGEM hanging out that way.  This puts it in concert with the Euro, UK and even the JMA.

 

Phil gets it good...i'm on the fence.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 10:03 PM, Zeus said:

On the flip side, it could easily not be as promising, and either blow up a little further east missing a lot of people or simply not at all.

Of course,  would like to see this dive further south and bomb out quicker, might taint the SE coast though if it does.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 10:07 PM, Ginxy said:

Of course,  would like to see this dive further south and bomb out quicker, might taint the SE coast though if it does.

 

The thing to remember is that even the 18z GFS is among the more NW and intense outliers of recent runs. The overall consensus right now is still considerably paltry.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 10:03 PM, Zeus said:

On the flip side, it could easily not be as promising, and either blow up a little further east missing a lot of people or simply not at all.

 

Definitely have to watch for that, we've been here before but there seems to be pretty good agreement between the major models at this point.

 

Jerry's NOGAPS ticked east at 18z too.   Not sure if it qualifies for the Will "3 is a trend" rule as I haven't been watching.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 10:13 PM, Rollo Tomasi said:

Definitely have to watch for that, we've been here before but there seems to be pretty good agreement between the major models at this point.

 

Jerry's NOGAPS ticked east at 18z too.   Not sure if it qualifies for the Will "3 is a trend" rule as I haven't been watching.

No need for insults...lol.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 10:17 PM, SouthCoastMA said:

I still lean further SE / less intense until later in the game. But either...like the look

do you stay snow on this run?

On the GFS? Probably not...though I'm on my phone. Doesn't matter though as I think that ultimately won't be a concern unless this thing goes nuts.

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  On 1/31/2013 at 10:33 PM, Ginxy said:

I only expect 2-4.

 

 

Yeah I'm just looking forward to an event to cover the grass again...and with any luck, maybe we pull off solid advisory or even low end warning, but my expectations are below that scenario. There's a lot of things that have to go right to get a bigger storm.

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