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February 2013 mid-long range disco thread


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actually it is true. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/climate/dca/Dcafeb.txt

 

we have.. but it's not quite the period people glorify it to be if you remove outliers at least in the dc record. 

 

funny you guys don't get on randy's case when he starts a snow thread with a meh.

 

he doesnt have the same body of work and consistent pattern the last few days/weeks....I did get on him yesterday for canceling winter on Jan 31st...Hopefully you have a light trigger finger when we troll severe threads this spring

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actually it is true. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/climate/dca/Dcafeb.txt

 

we have.. but the 15th+ is not quite the period people glorify it to be if you remove outliers at least in the dc record. 

 

funny you guys don't get on randy's case when he starts a snow thread with a meh.

 

Well, to be fair, I'm not trolling.

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he doesnt have the same body of work and consistent pattern the last few days/weeks....I did get on him yesterday for canceling winter on Jan 31st...Hopefully you have a light trigger finger when we troll severe threads this spring

 

not trolling.

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Yeah, but facts can be used in trolling.  Not sure why you even brought me into it or compared me to what you were doing.  I started the thread with meh because the NAM had a wide open precip hole over us. 

 

because i didn't do anything... some like matt want to act like im always just negative while totally ignoring comments i make in threads like last night when i told people the sys would produce and to stop worrying plus agreed with bob that this group of clippers could present surprises etc. im sorry im not supposed to mention these unspoken bits of knowledge that everyone already knows really well etc.

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im not either.. i posted facts.

Isn't our average high temp at any point in winter too warm for snow? It's not the average high i'm looking at but the current air mass we are under when looking for snow...but anyway...you are right, the later into the month there are more obstacles but also it seems like there are some benefits as well including juicier systems.

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because i didn't do anything... some like matt want to act like im always just negative while totally ignoring comments i make in threads like last night when i told people the sys would produce and to stop worrying plus agreed with bob that this group of clippers could present surprises etc. im sorry im not supposed to mention these unspoken bits of knowledge that everyone already knows really well etc.

 

It is sometimes hard to tell whether you are trying to add value to the conversation or just get under people's skin....

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Isn't our average high temp at any point in winter too warm for snow? It's not the average high i'm looking at but the current air mass we are under when looking for snow...but anyway...you are right, the later into the month there are more obstacles but also it seems like there are some benefits as well including juicier systems.

Whats important is as we head into february and even march the longwave pattern is more favorable as the wavelengths shorten and more opportunities arise. If a souther stream is present in this more active pattern, you have a better shot at a phase or any coastal low. January typically has a different longwave pattern in relation to upper flow, and doesn't give as many chances with perfect timing usually needed. 1/96 was one where perfection wasnt present but was a ninaish pattern so a bit different case.

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Isn't our average high temp at any point in winter too warm for snow? It's not the average high i'm looking at but the current air mass we are under when looking for snow...but anyway...you are right, the later into the month there are more obstacles but also it seems like there are some benefits as well including juicier systems.

 

 

I like snow regardless of the temps

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That one is the one I am hoping trends better.

 

that's the one that has the best chance of trending better (I think).  Looks like 4 chances of flurries or light snow before the 6th.  If Saturday's clipper were to not take a low east then Sunday's vort would have a chance to do something. Unfortunately, the Saturday system is likely to screw things for the vort with the better dynamics. 

 

Off topic,  I've got drifting snow outside from 1.5" of snow. 

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that's the one that has the best chance of trending better (I think).  Looks like 4 chances of flurries or light snow before the 6th.  If Saturday's clipper were to not take a low east then Sunday's vort would have a chance to do something. Unfortunately, the Saturday system is likely to screw things for the vort with the better dynamics. 

 

Off topic,  I've got drifting snow outside from 1.5" of snow. 

 

That was where i was hoping HM's discussion of the STJ would come in to help.  Phase is out of the question as the flow is still too fast but something to add some moisture.

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imo- the little system on the 4-5th needs to be watched. 700 shows a little ss interaction. Verbatim it's weak but it's worth watching nonetheless. Could get a little juicy. 

 

That's the one I mentioned earlier Bob.  Some of the gfs ens members do some good things with it.  Some don't.  The latest op doesn't do much either.

 

As for tomorrow, I can't tell you how sick I am of seeing this.

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