eyewall Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This is the key line and often means a bust: THE MARGINAL THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT PRECLUDES AN UPGRADE TO A MODERATE RISK AT THIS TIME...BUT AREA WILL CONTINUE TO BE EVALUATED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 It looks like the front of the line is separating somewhat - potentially racing out into more discrete cells... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Lots of chasing going on at chasertv.com. This one is starting to lookinteresting. http://content.wdtinc.com/popout/index.php?M=14613&C=20643&O=10398 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneTracker Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This is the key line and often means a bust: THE MARGINAL THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT PRECLUDES AN UPGRADE TO A MODERATE RISK AT THIS TIME...BUT AREA WILL CONTINUE TO BE EVALUATED. Not necessarily. Low CAPE but high shear events are often underestimated, yet they have potential for big impacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 And this one very big. With screaming winds all the way down to 925 mb, these storms will have a lot to tap into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Latest briefing from Raleigh NWS. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/rah/news/content/2013Jan29_2PM_Briefing.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not necessarily. Low CAPE but high shear events are often underestimated, yet they have potential for big impacts. Very true and they certainly can but overall in the recent past they have busted more often than not. Of course that doesn't guarantee tomorrow will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltadog03 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/41FirstAlert 4km RPM is up there. Squall line moving through bama, and some possible* renegades out ahead of line in GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeznado Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Timing keeps slowing down, latest NAM and RPM show the main squall line now through ATL closer to 20-21Z- this could be pretty bad somewhere near or in the Metro area. RPM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Impressive 850mb winds over western NC, the winds progged for GA and more southern areas for this event don't reach the 80 mark. 90 is even progged for eastern VA at 36 hours. W NC looks to be the best chance for severe tomorrow (as far as NC goes). However, might be too slow considering this is probably a night event for the majority of NC...Straight line wind majority threat for NC.... 18z NAM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltadog03 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I agree Cheeze....we could actually see something here tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not sure if this is the place for observations, but there's impressive rotation on the warned cell north of Fort Smith, AR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not sure if this is the place for observations, but there's impressive rotation on the warned cell north of Fort Smith, AR. Try this thread: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38901-january-28-30-severe-threat-s-plains-to-tn-valley-to-se/page-9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhiteoutWX Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Is that discrete convection out ahead of the line in the upstate/foothills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltadog03 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 It could be...yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm definitely going to be paying more attention to this than the usual high shear/low CAPE events that take place around here during the winter. The Birmingham AFD paints a little more ominous picture than earlier in the forecast period. CONFIDENCE IS DECREASING FOR A FAST MOVING SQUALL LINE HIGH WIND EVENT...AND INCREASING FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF DISCRETE CELLS AHEAD OF THE MAIN SQUALL LINE. THE TORNADO CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN RAISED TO MODERATE ON THE SEVERE THREAT LEVEL MAP ON OUR WEB SITE. THE MODELS ARE ALSO TRENDING TOWARDS A RE-INTENSIFICATION OF THE SQUALL LINE AS IT MOVES INTO EAST ALABAMA DURING THE LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. Remarkable that we don't have the seemingly ever present wedge to save our butts this time either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 GSP's afternoon.......another good write up highlighting the potential for this system. .SHORT TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/...AS OF 245 PM TUESDAY...A CONSENSUS OF MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES THATA SEVERE WEATHER PRODUCING LINEAR CONVECTIVE SYSTEM WILL BE ENTERINGTHE WRN PART OF NC AROUND 18Z AND WILL STEADILY MARCH EASTWARD AHEADOF A STRONG COLD FRONT. AHEAD OF THE CONVECTIVE SYSTEM...THERE ISGOOD POTENTIAL FOR THE BOUNDARY LAYER TO DEEPEN JUST ENOUGH TO TAPSOME OF THE STRONGER WINDS THAT ARE NOT TOO FAR ALOFT...ESPECIALLYIF ANY BREAKS DEVELOP IN THE CLOUD COVER. FREQUENT GUSTS IN THE40-45 MPH RANGE ARE EXPECTED...SO THE ENTIRE AREA OUTSIDE THE MTNS WAS BUMPED UP TO A WIND ADVISORY. THE PASSAGE OF THE CONVECTIVE SYSTEM WILL BE THE MAIN STORY. PRECIP AMTS LOOK DECENT BUT THE CONVECTIVE LINE WILL MOVE THROUGH FAST ENOUGH TO LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING. WILL HAVE TO WATCH THE FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL FORSURE...BUT THE FLOOD WATCH WILL NOT BE EXPANDED AT THIS TIME. SHEARAND HELICITY WILL BE PHENOMENAL. YOU WILL PROBABLY NOT FIND ANOTHERFCST HODOGRAPH AROUND HERE WITH MORE LENGTH AND CURVATURE AS THE NAMINDICATES FOR WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. BUOYANCY IS THE LIMITINGFACTOR...BUT EVEN THE MORE CONSERVATIVE GFS HAS RAISED CAPE VALUESINTO THE 100-300 J/KG RANGE WHILE THE NAM TOPS OUT ABOUT DOUBLETHAT. THIS WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT BOWING STRUCTURES AND LINESEGMENTS THAT COULD PRODUCE SWATHS OF WIND DAMAGE AND SMALL BRIEFTORNADOES. AS USUAL...THE AREA ALONG AND SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 85 WILLHAVE THE HIGHEST THREAT...ALTHO THE ENTIRE REGION IS UNDER A SLIGHTRISK AS SEEN ON THE DAY2 OUTLOOK FROM SPC. THE CONVECTIVE LINE ISEXPECTED TO CROSS THE MTNS IN THE EARLY AFTERNOON...THE FOOTHILLSAND UPSTATE IN THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON...AND THE PIEDMONT IN THELATE AFTERNOON TO EARLY EVENING. THE TREND OF THE MODELS HAS BEEN TOSLOW IT DOWN...SO THIS COULD SLIP A BIT. THE FRONT SHOULD CLEAR THEEASTERN EDGE IN THE EARLY EVENING WITH A SHARP BACK EDGE. STRONGWIND GUSTS COULD PERSIST WITH BETTER MIXING AS COLD ADVECTIONIMPROVES BEHIND THE FRONT...SO THE WIND ADVISORY WAS KEPT FORWEDNESDAY NIGHT. OVER THE MTNS...PRECIP WILL GRADUALLY SWITCH TOSNOW FROM HIGH TO LOW ELEVATIONS STARTING IN THE LATE EVENING...ENDING AS ALL SNOW AROUND DAYBREAK. THE POTENTIAL IS SOMETHINGAROUND AN INCH OR TWO ON THE TN BORDER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Birmingham NWS" THE COMPUTER MODELS ARE SLOWING DOWN THE ARRIVAL TIME OF THE MAIN SQUALL LINE INTO ALABAMA. CONFIDENCE IS DECREASING FOR A FAST MOVING SQUALL LINE/HIGH WIND EVENT...AND INCREASING FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF DISCRETE CELLS AHEAD OF THE MAIN SQUALL LINE. THE TORNADO CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN RAISED TO MODERATE ON THE SEVERE THREAT LEVEL MAP ON OUR WEB SITE. THE MODELS ARE ALSO TRENDING TOWARDS A RE-INTENSIFICATION OF THE SQUALL LINE AS IT MOVES INTO EAST ALABAMA DURING THE LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Birmingham NWS: DURING THE LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON HOURS. This is one of the main things that have my attention......it seems like it has been FOREVER since we've had a system enter our area from the west during peak heating. Dewpoints are already approaching 60. If there is ANY sun tomorrow, north Georgia better really be prepared. It hit 72 earlier this afternoon IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degadylan77 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I live in east alabama (Talladega) and work in central alabama (Pelham). I have grown to hate these severe weather days... seems we are getting them more frequently. I have learned that you will feel and hear the wind first then the storms will come about 30 min later, atleast that has been my observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If you want to know what's upstream, follow James: http://www.alabamawx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degadylan77 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If you want to know what's upstream, follow James: http://www.alabamawx.com/ Yep... gotta follow that blog around here and if he comes on TV in suspenders then it is about to get bad.... but thats known right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelleH Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yep... gotta follow that blog around here and if he comes on TV in suspenders then it is about to get bad.... but thats known right? Oh yeah, if he comes on air with his suspenders showing, then it's on! Love James Spann! And hello to you 'Dega from Cullman, AL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelleH Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 New MSD out: MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0076 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0437 PM CST TUE JAN 29 2013 AREAS AFFECTED...LOWER MS VALLEY CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY VALID 292237Z - 300100Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT SUMMARY...PRE-FRONTAL CONVECTION ALONG THE SABINE RIVER TO CNTRL LA SHOULD EVOLVE INTO DISCRETE SUPERCELLS AS ACTIVITY APPROACHES THE LOWER MS VALLEY. TORNADOES /POSSIBLY SIGNIFICANT/ AND DAMAGING WINDS WILL BE THE PRIMARY THREATS. DISCUSSION...AN AREA OF WARM SECTOR SHOWERS WITH A FEW EMBEDDED TSTMS ALONG THE SABINE RIVER INTO CNTRL LA SHOULD GRADUALLY DEEPEN THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS FED BY UPSTREAM PW VALUES OF 1.5 INCHES. AS LARGE-SCALE ASCENT AND LOW TO DEEP-LAYER SHEAR ALL FAVORABLY INCREASE...DISCRETE SUPERCELLS SHOULD DEVELOP. SOME CONVECTION-ALLOWING MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES THIS OCCURRING...ALTHOUGH APPEARING LIKELY TOO SLOW /BETWEEN 03-06Z/. IT APPEARS MORE PROBABLE BASED ON OBSERVATIONS THAT SUPERCELLS WILL OCCUR BY THE 00-03Z TIME FRAME...WITH THE PRIMARY THREATS BEING TORNADOES /POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT/ AND DAMAGING WINDS. ..GRAMS/HART.. 01/29/2013 ATTN...WFO...MEG...JAN...LZK...SHV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculus1 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Here's the video from James Spann from this afternoon. I know he mainly focuses on Alabama, but his video can really apply to the entire SE, and he does such a fantastic job explaining it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharonA Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Oh yeah, if he comes on air with his suspenders showing, then it's on! Love James Spann! And hello to you 'Dega from Cullman, AL! And Hello Dega & Cullman, from Florence, AL! The workplace I'm at has sent out alerts to employees directly and to supervisors to hold meetings to discuss it with employees. I'm a temporary contractor here, and several people have as come over to make sure I know what might happen and where the building shelters are. They have this down pat by now. Here I thought I'd miss all the SVR/TOR fun because this temporary relocation gig was supposed to be over with before the real spring fun hit. Thank you for the video and information, gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichelleH Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 New tornado watch: URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 10 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 540 PM CST TUE JAN 29 2013 THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF MUCH OF ARKANSAS NORTHERN LOUISIANA MISSOURI BOOTHEEL EXTREME SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA NORTHEAST TEXAS EFFECTIVE THIS TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND WEDNESDAY MORNING FROM 540 PM UNTIL 100 AM CST. TORNADOES...HAIL TO 1.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS. THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 100 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 50 MILES WEST OF NATCHITOCHES LOUISIANA TO 30 MILES NORTHWEST OF WALNUT RIDGE ARKANSAS. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU0). REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 7...WW 9... DISCUSSION...THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND INTENSITY THROUGH THE EVENING AS A POWERFUL UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM APPROACHES THE REGION. VERY STRONG LOW LEVEL WIND FIELDS AND SUFFICIENT INSTABILITY WILL PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF SCATTERED SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS. BOW ECHOS AND SUPERCELLS SEEM TO BE THE GREATEST RISK...WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ISOLATED SIGNIFICANT TORNADOES AND WIDESPREAD DAMAGING WINDS. AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 1.5 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 70 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 450. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 23045. ...HART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This is one of the main things that have my attention......it seems like it has been FOREVER since we've had a system enter our area from the west during peak heating. Dewpoints are already approaching 60. If there is ANY sun tomorrow, north Georgia better really be prepared. It hit 72 earlier this afternoon IMBY. Yes, and Greg Fishel on WRAL in Raleigh said tomorrow will be even warmer here than today and that would mean trouble for when the system arrives here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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