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2013 Mid-Atlantic Severe General Discussion


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5% see text for tomorrow.

SPC discussion mentioned surface moisture was overdone on the 00z models (with the same if not slightly higher dewpoints on the 06z run). I agree to a point, but with the models going upper 50s to lower 60s and the SPC suggesting lower 50s at most, there's probably room for compromise between those two ranges.

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I went back and looked at NCDC radar. That cell tracked from near cho to west of Trenton mostly independent (as a line segment).

 

I find it interesting that your area (LWX) saw 2 tornadoes confirmed (along with a few "high-end" severe wind reports) while the storm south of your area was classified non-tornadic. I thought for sure, given the radar signatures and initial damage reports of "structural damage" that the Clarksville storm would end up a tornado. But they determined that it was mainly trees falling into houses and the trees fell in the same direction throughout the area. What did get reported, that represented that beautiful supercell well, was ping pong-sized hail.

So as it turns out, your area's tornado watch was a good move after all.

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I find it interesting that your area (LWX) saw 2 tornadoes confirmed (along with a few "high-end" severe wind reports) while the storm south of your area was classified non-tornadic. I thought for sure, given the radar signatures and initial damage reports of "structural damage" that the Clarksville storm would end up a tornado. But they determined that it was mainly trees falling into houses and the trees fell in the same direction throughout the area. What did get reported, that represented that beautiful supercell well, was ping pong-sized hail.

So as it turns out, your area's tornado watch was a good move after all.

The Clarksville storm had everything going for it... isolated, pre-frontal, right mover. Very surprised no tornado was confirmed.

Bill Hark was on the storm starting around South Hill (just northeast of Clarksville) and caught a wall cloud but never saw a tornado: https://twitter.com/WTHark/status/325418604063510528

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SPC discussion mentioned surface moisture was overdone on the 00z models (with the same if not slightly higher dewpoints on the 06z run). I agree to a point, but with the models going upper 50s to lower 60s and the SPC suggesting lower 50s at most, there's probably room for compromise between those two ranges.

Most stations in the area of interest reporting dews in the low 50s... kudos SPC.

I'll be happy with some lightning flashes IMBY with this setup, though not getting my hopes up.

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Some boomer potential Thursday and Friday (mostly Friday). Decent CAPE in the 750-1500 J/kg range Friday via the GFS, but shear is kinda weak as the strongest winds between the surface and 500mb is only 25 kts. Still could be enough for some stronger storms... maybe isolated severe. Right now Friday looks like a 5%/See Text kind of day.

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Some boomer potential Thursday and Friday (mostly Friday). Decent CAPE in the 750-1500 J/kg range Friday via the GFS, but shear is kinda weak as the strongest winds between the surface and 500mb is only 25 kts. Still could be enough for some stronger storms... maybe isolated severe. Right now Friday looks like a 5%/See Text kind of day.

Central VA prob per LWX.

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Low hail threat mostly for VA today. Similar setup to what was in NC yesterday:

 

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...MID ATLANTIC COAST REGION...EAST SOUTHEASTERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW WILL MAINTAIN RELATIVELY HIGHERMOISTURE CONTENT AIR /CURRENTLY CHARACTERIZED BY MID 50S TO NEAR 60FSURFACE DEW POINTS/ ACROSS THE VIRGINIA COASTAL PLAIN AND PIEDMONTINTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS TODAY.  ALTHOUGH THE CORE OF THEMID-LEVEL COLD POOL ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROACHING UPPER LOW WILLLAG TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE MORE MOIST LOW-LEVELENVIRONMENT...COOLING ON ITS LEADING EDGE MAY STILL CONTRIBUTE TOFAVORABLE THERMODYNAMIC PROFILES FOR THE PRODUCTION OF HAIL INSCATTERED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY.  WHILE VERTICAL SHEAR IS EXPECTEDTO BE MARGINAL FOR APPRECIABLE MID-LEVEL UPDRAFT ROTATION...HAILOCCASIONALLY REACHING SEVERE CRITERIA MAY NOT BE OUT OF THEQUESTION.

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So close to the Slight...

 

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...CENTRAL/NRN APPALACHIANS REGION...

SCATTERED TSTMS SHOULD DEVELOP DURING AFTN IN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE

AIR MASS ALONG/AHEAD OF SFC FRONT...SUPPORTED BY NARROW CORRIDOR OF

FAVORABLE MOISTURE WITH 50S TO SPOTTY 60S F SFC DEW POINTS.  MAIN

CONCERN WILL BE DAMAGING WIND.  HOWEVER...FCST HODOGRAPHS DO SHOW

ENOUGH CURVATURE S AND SE OF SFC LOW TO INDICATE SOME SUPERCELL

POTENTIAL FOR ANY RELATIVELY ISOLATED/DISCRETE/PERSISTENT TSTMS.

MLCAPE 1000-1500 J/KG IS POSSIBLE...WITH BOW/LEWP FORMATIONS LOCALLY

FOCUSING SVR RISK.  MAIN LIMITING FACTOR MAY BE LACK OF MORE ROBUST

DEEP SHEAR...WITH EFFECTIVE SHEAR MAGNITUDE GENERALLY AOB 35 KT IN

FCST SOUNDINGS.  SVR THREAT SHOULD DIMINISH CONSIDERABLY AFTER DARK.

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So close to the Slight...

 

...CENTRAL/NRN APPALACHIANS REGION...

SCATTERED TSTMS SHOULD DEVELOP DURING AFTN IN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE

AIR MASS ALONG/AHEAD OF SFC FRONT...SUPPORTED BY NARROW CORRIDOR OF

FAVORABLE MOISTURE WITH 50S TO SPOTTY 60S F SFC DEW POINTS.  MAIN

CONCERN WILL BE DAMAGING WIND.  HOWEVER...FCST HODOGRAPHS DO SHOW

ENOUGH CURVATURE S AND SE OF SFC LOW TO INDICATE SOME SUPERCELL

POTENTIAL FOR ANY RELATIVELY ISOLATED/DISCRETE/PERSISTENT TSTMS.

MLCAPE 1000-1500 J/KG IS POSSIBLE...WITH BOW/LEWP FORMATIONS LOCALLY

FOCUSING SVR RISK.  MAIN LIMITING FACTOR MAY BE LACK OF MORE ROBUST

DEEP SHEAR...WITH EFFECTIVE SHEAR MAGNITUDE GENERALLY AOB 35 KT IN

FCST SOUNDINGS.  SVR THREAT SHOULD DIMINISH CONSIDERABLY AFTER DARK.

 

Maybe we can get it extended into our area for a token slight ;)

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An eyebrow was raised yesterday with the more southern SLP track, better wind fields and sufficient moisture return. But the 00z runs and 6z GFS have shifted north and lost their more interesting look.

 

We'll see if we can get more amplification out of the lead s/w on today's 12z runs but I didn't like the way this morning's data went.

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An eyebrow was raised yesterday with the more southern SLP track, better wind fields and sufficient moisture return. But the 00z runs and 6z GFS have shifted north and lost their more interesting look.

 

We'll see if we can get more amplification out of the lead s/w on today's 12z runs but I didn't like the way this morning's data went.

 

What about later next week along the periphery of that ridge ejecting out of the plains. Could we have a little MCS pattern for a day or 2 in the midwest and maybe to the mid-atl?

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