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2013 Mid-Atlantic Severe General Discussion


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Still think there is the risk of severe weather this evening with a

newly organized line moving in from the southwest. Instability from

18z kiad radiosonde observation is weak...but not zero. But even with weak

instability...wind fields/shear are strong enough to raise the

concern for damaging wind gusts across the County Warning Area with organized

convection. Convection may not have lightning and thunder...but

momentum Transfer may be sufficient enough for damaging wind gusts.

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Wasn't expecting to be in the line of this.

 

 

AT 359 PM EST...DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A LINE OF SEVERE 
 
  THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 
 
  70 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM NEW 
 
  CASTLE TO ELLISTON-LAFAYETTE...OR ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM 
 
  PAINT BANK TO BENT MOUNTAIN...AND MOVING EAST AT 60 MPH.
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tho it looks like spc might include dc in watch

 

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      MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0101   NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK   0306 PM CST WED JAN 30 2013      AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS OF CNTRL/ERN VA...NRN/CNTRL NC...SWRN   MD...WASHINGTON DC      CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH LIKELY       VALID 302106Z - 302300Z      PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT      SUMMARY...A NEW SVR TSTM WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED AHEAD OF   RECENTLY ISSUED WW22.      DISCUSSION...CONVECTIVE TRENDS UPSTREAM ARE BEING MONITORED FOR THE   INCREASING SVR THREAT AHEAD OF WW22. DESPITE VERY MEAGER BUOYANCY   INDICATED PER 18Z IAD RAOB...LIMITED LOW-LEVEL WARMING HAS OCCURRED   IN ASSOCIATION WITH WARM-SECTOR THETA-E ADVECTION -- SFC TEMPS NOW   IN THE LOWER 70S ACROSS MUCH OF THE MCD AREA -- TO THE E/S OF A   WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION SHIELD. AND...WITH STRENGTHENING MID-LEVEL   ASCENT/HEIGHT FALLS...MODEST WARM-SECTOR DESTABILIZATION IS UNDERWAY   AMIDST VERY STRONG LOW-LEVEL AND DEEP SHEAR PER REGIONAL VWP DATA.   AS SUCH...CONVECTION MAY CONTINUE TO GROW UPSCALE FROM SWRN   VA...AND/OR ADDITIONAL CONVECTION OVER THE SRN APPALACHIANS COULD   EXTEND NEWD. EITHER WAY...THE SVR THREAT IS FORECAST TO INCREASE   NE/E OF WW22 DURING THE NEXT FEW HOURS...AND DOWNSTREAM SVR TSTM   WATCH ISSUANCE IS LIKELY.      ..COHEN/THOMPSON.. 01/30/2013         ATTN...WFO...AKQ...LWX...RAH...RNK...      LAT...LON   36228003 36267922 36837858 37647841 37887940 38417919               38757871 39047740 38937680 38227685 37067738 36107808               35737885 35577971 35698028 36038034 36228003    
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So when SPC and LWX say they're still expecting possible severe weather then it's ok but when I say it everyone says I'm dead wrong and will bust? lol. I never said we would get crazy insane severe storms. I still think the "main event" is tonight. Heavy downpours and strong winds that could go severe in some spots. This initial line that's moving through now is nothing. Yes the atmosphere is more stable after the rain but there's still a lot to factor in with potential storms later. 

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So when SPC and LWX say they're still expecting possible severe weather then it's ok but when I say it everyone says I'm dead wrong and will bust? lol. I never said we would get crazy insane severe storms. I still think the "main event" is tonight. Heavy downpours and strong winds that could go severe in some spots. This initial line that's moving through now is nothing. Yes the atmosphere is more stable after the rain but there's still a lot to factor in with potential storms later. 

 

i was a bit rude earlier but you also said that because the rain showing up wasnt on models it wasnt there basically.. and alluded to big storms. my point all along has been that we're not getting severe weather outside some random isolated report. it's rain... and gusty winds.

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Is it my imagination, or the squall line that was seemingly racing east a few hours ago seem to have stalled and possibly receded?

 

southerly flow too much for the cold pool it seems. so close.

 

meanwhile.. that 80% watch still isnt out.

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southerly flow too much for the cold pool it seems. so close.

 

At JYO, the front came through around 14:30 local, winds shifted to the N, 3-5 mph.  Now we have been overcast for the past hour or so and the winds have shifted back to SE 7 G 26 mph...more closely resembling pre fropa.  So, our powerful cold front is back as a weak warm front for the time being.

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At JYO, the front came through around 14:30 local, winds shifted to the N, 3-5 mph. Now we have been overcast for the past hour or so and the winds have shifted back to SE 7 G 26 mph...more closely resembling pre fropa. So, our powerful cold front is back as a weak warm front for the time being.

Well I think it was correctly assessed that its not the front but the leading edge of the cold pool from storms to the west. Getting any severe north of CHO looks increasingly difficult tho.

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